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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Jonah on March 16, 2010, 02:28:27 PM
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I'll expect no less than the worst and best hater comments after I say these commandments on what I believe is proper AH behavior:
1) Thou shall not fly planes below 30 ENY value :banana:
2) Thou shall not loveth thy HO's :P
3) Only 4 nuts to a fight :aok
4) Thou shall never bomb GV's :cheers:
5) If thou art a spit, you dont need to breathe
6) Skill shalt recognize skill with a <S> :salute
7) Thou shalt not knock the hustle :rock
8) Thou shalt not snitch(spy) :angel:
9) Thou shalt play only for fun :cool:
10) Its no fun if the squaddies gettin none ;)
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You can stick number 5 up your bottom, whale bait.
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You can stick number 5 up your bottom , whale bait.
Ditto. I look forward to you trying to extinguish my breath.
As far as #3, what about folks like Betty & Shegotya? DOH!
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good one pale, waystin, but i stand by it :D
i dunno waystin, ill have to ask betty next time im knight. its supposed to mean only 2 people to a fight.
i have the most fun fighting one on one in the game, and im all about fun and enjoyment.
if ur jumping in the fight, your knocking my hustle(see commandment 7)
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Do you guys just sit around and come up with stuff like this off the tops of your heads?
I agree with #5...but only if it's a 14 or 16...
i have the most fun fighting one on one in the game, and im all about fun and enjoyment.
if ur jumping in the fight, your knocking my hustle(see commandment 7)
Sounds more like instant personal gratification...what if the other person wants someone else to jump in on the fight...I guess that would be TTFY and there goes your "one on one".
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if you need another plane in addition to yours to kill somebody than neither of you are worth playing with in my opinion.
if i drag someone away and they follow me to get into a one on one fight, then it is clear TO ME that from that action of following me away from everyone that they dont want anyone to jump in either. if they did want someone to jump in, then they would not have followed me away from the group. u see the logic here?
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Is your in game name Jonah01?
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You can stick number 5 up your bottom, whale bait.
Ditto
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If this is the same Jonah that I'm thinking of in game you can add (Jonah shall not pm people calling them F****** after you kill his PT boat with your LVT2). Frankly that was just a funny kill.
If this is a different Jonah then you may ignore this :)
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if you need another plane in addition to yours to kill somebody than neither of you are worth playing with in my opinion.
if i drag someone away and they follow me to get into a one on one fight, then it is clear TO ME that from that action of following me away from everyone that they dont want anyone to jump in either. if they did want someone to jump in, then they would not have followed me away from the group. u see the logic here?
Very good thing I don't value your opinion...what do you do when 2 people start chasing you, just keep running?
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Jonah = FBnutz
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4) Thou shall never bomb GV's unless you have 200 tuned :cheers:
Fixed :)
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haha yea i do drink alot, and when i do i private message all kinds of nasty things flayed. but it depends on how uncivil and nasty others are to me at that particular time, but i am a nice guy overall. i apologize if i said somehting wierd. yes i used to be FBnutz and im always reminded. if 2 ppl start chasing u then fight both of em as best u can.
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haha yea i do drink alot, and when i do i private message all kinds of nasty things flayed. but it depends on how uncivil and nasty others are to me at that particular time, but i am a nice guy overall. i apologize if i said somehting wierd. yes i used to be FBnutz and im always reminded. if 2 ppl start chasing u then fight both of em as best u can.
Alcohol is not an excuse for lack of self-control. When you start "blaming alcohol", you should seek help.
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Anyhow
1) Thou shall not fly planes below 30 ENY value
2) Thou shall not loveth thy HO's
3) Only 4 nuts to a fight
4) Thou shall never bomb GV's
5) If thou art a spit, you dont need to breathe
6) Skill shalt recognize skill with a <S>
7) Thou shalt not knock the hustle
8) Thou shalt not snitch(spy)
9) Thou shalt play only for fun
10) Its no fun if the squaddies gettin none
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Jonah you are a newb and this list is a bunch of drivel. This is the worst post in the history of posts, following this post. Whats worse is this is coming from the guy who missed the BEST FSO EVER!
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you must be drinkin all the time from what i can see but i shall be honored to be IN on this
poop festival.
get your waders and shovels out folks, were goin overtime.
:neener: froger :neener:
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The best fights I ever had in AH were mass numbers on mass numbers. Trying to keep SA and still be on the offensive.
The very best was a mass numbers on mass numbers in which I was flying a Spitfire Mk IX.
gyrene81,
You actually see enough Spitfire Mk XIV's to complain about them? The only time I ever see one is if I am in it.
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on #4, i will be on 200 enjoying the whining after i bomb your GV. :devil
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haha yea i do drink alot, and when i do i private message all kinds of nasty things flayed. but it depends on how uncivil and nasty others are to me at that particular time, but i am a nice guy overall. i apologize if i said somehting wierd. yes i used to be FBnutz and im always reminded. if 2 ppl start chasing u then fight both of em as best u can.
Poor reason.
And I refuse to ratify #4 (see avatar :P)
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This is the worst post in the history of posts, following this post.
that's debatable
Jonah you are a newb and this list is a bunch of drivel.
this is true
me and a few others where killing this guy last night and he kept whining about being picked vulched and what ever. however when you get on his six he runs to his ack. no worries i still had fun racking up the kills off of him. anyone here will tell you, keep the advantage in a dog fight weather it be 1v1 20v20 20v5 or 1v5 what ever it may be keep the advantage. this means keep more E and alt than your con. IN your situation you kept upping from a capped airfield. not a smart ideal. you should have came IN from a distant base with some alt.
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Jonah you are a newb and this list is a bunch of drivel. This is the worst post in the history of posts, following this post. Whats worse is this is coming from the guy who missed the BEST FSO EVER!
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Jonah you are a newb and this list is a bunch of drivel. This is the worst post in the history of posts, following this post.
Never had a problem with Jonah....
Mild hijack thread time....
Kermit,
Once all the gangbang or run twits left, last night was a blast... <S> I haven't had that much fun in a while, fighting both you & LodeCH.... good times....
To all others and how it relates to Jonah's post....
Many people last night were fighting and most people were staying way from 'dweeby' behavior... for ex... Lode would see 4 guys on a con, and he would stay out... rather than risk kill shooting himself trying to get an assist. This actually lead to better 'combat' because you didn't run into a case where there was no one to fight in your area because there was 10 guys chasing 1 poor guy on the deck half a sector away...
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haha...i regulate all of you
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I have had lots of problems with the jonah the biggest is the fact hes a squad mate :rofl
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haha...i regulate all of you
are you really a Jonah's brother ?
froger
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nvm.....
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When you pay my subscription,
you can give me your BS.
In the meanwhile if your red your dead is the only commandment i go by,.
until then
Cheers
ps, frogger, that avatar is so gross its great.
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You can stick number 5 up your bottom, whale bait.
along with 1, 2,3,4, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10
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(http://i834.photobucket.com/albums/zz261/otto6457/doublefacepalm.jpg)
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5) If thou art a spit, you dont need to breathe. :uhoh
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The spitty comments never cease to amaze me, while its certainly a very capable plane its not much of a threat unless the pilot is good (same with all of em). A good P-40B driver is more dangerous then an average spit driver IMO. To be honest when I run into a spitty I normally feel the poor guy brought a knife to a gun fight...
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along with 1, 2,3,4, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10
whered he come from? ohh well... time for
(http://keeve.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/epic-fail.jpg)
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The spitty comments never cease to amaze me, while its certainly a very capable plane its not much of a threat unless the pilot is good (same with all of em). A good P-40B driver is more dangerous then an average spit driver IMO. To be honest when I run into a spitty I normally feel the poor guy brought a knife to a gun fight...
QFT
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Jonah = FBnutz
Who is FBnutz?
:salute 11
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You can stick number 5 up your bottom, whale bait.
I may be wrong but I think he means, "if you're in a spit there is NO need to give you a break or space" just pile on cause the twitfire is good enough to handle it :aok
I don't think he wants you to stop breathing :huh
Again, I could be wrong :bolt:
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I guess people checked the sense of humor at the door. I thought there were some legitimate topics and some funny ones in there.
But I do agree alcohol is a poor excuse for lack of self control.
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Alcohol is not an excuse for lack of self-control. When you start "blaming alcohol", you should seek help.
I can only acknowledge this very cogent point by restating what "we" (buds and I) used to sarcastically say for laughs - back when we were young, dumb, and prone to this (and just about any other) type of habitual overuse:
"On taking the first drink, you assume responsibility for the entire spree."
We knew it was true even as we ran afoul of it on occasion.
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I may be wrong but I think he means, "if you're in a spit there is NO need to give you a break or space" just pile on cause the twitfire is good enough to handle it :aok
I don't think he wants you to stop breathing :huh
Again, I could be wrong :bolt:
+1
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The spitty comments never cease to amaze me, while its certainly a very capable plane its not much of a threat unless the pilot is good (same with all of em). A good P-40B driver is more dangerous then an average spit driver IMO. To be honest when I run into a spitty I normally feel the poor guy brought a knife to a gun fight...
I'd rather face the P-40B than a Spit8...and we won't even talk about the Spixteen that tends to perform some amazing things that I cannot force out of my joystick...fact is that most Spits are easy mode, easier than the D Pony and even a low end toon pile-it like myself can land multiple kills in one.
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Liar.
Jonah's commandments for fun.
1. Thou shalt fly straight and level to facilitate thine own death at the hands of the master picker: Jonah.
2-10. Rinse and repeat.
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I'd rather face the P-40B than a Spit8...and we won't even talk about the Spixteen that tends to perform some amazing things that I cannot force out of my joystick...fact is that most Spits are easy mode, easier than the D Pony and even a low end toon pile-it like myself can land multiple kills in one.
I have never understood the "easy mode" comments. No insult intended Gyrene, but all planes can be shot down. It comes down to your skill level, how well you know your plane, and how you should fight that plane against a given enemy aircraft. I don't know how most do it, but when engaging my head is spieling facts and figures (which by the way have to be taken with a grain of salt due to pilot skills). Can it outturn me? Can that plane outroll me? Vertical performance? Am I faster? Can it dive with me? On and on... This helps me develop a strategy for the dogfight.
:salute
Way
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Waystin, when someone of my skill level can feel more confident taking a Spit8 into a furball than a 109 or a P-51...that to me is "easy mode". You don't really even have to think unless you're facing a Zeke or Brewster.
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I'd rather face the P-40B than a Spit8...and we won't even talk about the Spixteen that tends to perform some amazing things that I cannot force out of my joystick...fact is that most Spits are easy mode, easier than the D Pony and even a low end toon pile-it like myself can land multiple kills in one.
It all depends on who's flying the P40B...or the spitty for that matter. While the spitfire is obviously a very capable plane its certainly not overwhelmingly uber. It's far less capable overall then the D pony for example simply because it can't control the engagement vs a lot of the plane set. On the other side it's very vulnerable to the FM-2, zeke, brew, hurricane if it gets caught in a knife fight. It's at a horrific disadvantage vs the late war 109's and has minimal chance vs an F4U (given equal pilots). It's touch and go with a ki-84 and useless against a Yak or 190D.
At the end of the day its simply an easy to fly plane with very good guns that allows an average pilot a fighting chance vs any other plane flown by an average pilot. Now obviously in good hands its very deadly...but so it the P40B.
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It all depends on who's flying the P40B...or the spitty for that matter. While the spitfire is obviously a very capable plane its certainly not overwhelmingly uber. It's far less capable overall then the D pony for example simply because it can't control the engagement vs a lot of the plane set. On the other side it's very vulnerable to the FM-2, zeke, brew, hurricane if it gets caught in a knife fight. It's at a horrific disadvantage vs the late war 109's and has minimal chance vs an F4U (given equal pilots). It's touch and go with a ki-84 and useless against a Yak or 190D.
At the end of the day its simply an easy to fly plane with very good guns that allows an average pilot a fighting chance vs any other plane flown by an average pilot. Now obviously in good hands its very deadly...but so it the P40B.
Humble's quick cliff notes on the Spit 8 is what I was referring to Gyrene. After God knows how many years, he has quite an extensive list to evaluate a given planes strengths and weaknesses. My library of facts is not near as large, but growing daily. I am sure that you are in the same boat. I am glad you feel emboldened by flying the Spit 8 into a fight as opposed to another aircraft. She is my first AH love! Ah gosh now I am getting mushy.... :cry
:salute
Way
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I have never understood the "easy mode" comments. No insult intended Gyrene, but all planes can be shot down. It comes down to your skill level, how well you know your plane, and how you should fight that plane against a given enemy aircraft. I don't know how most do it, but when engaging my head is spieling facts and figures (which by the way have to be taken with a grain of salt due to pilot skills). Can it outturn me? Can that plane outroll me? Vertical performance? Am I faster? Can it dive with me? On and on... This helps me develop a strategy for the dogfight.
:salute
Way
I'm by no means an 'expert' but having flown both the spit 9 & 16 and the 109g14, I personally feel that the spits are much more forgiving and take less attention to fight effectively with. They appear to allow you to make mistakes in ACM execution and choice while still not completely blowing your chances at wining the fight. This is especially true with the spit 16. Also, making shots with the weaponry is much easier in the spits with the hispanos than the 109 with the 30mm. And good aim makes a huge difference.
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I'm by no means an 'expert' but having flown both the spit 9 & 16 and the 109g14, I personally feel that the spits are much more forgiving and take less attention to fight effectively with. They appear to allow you to make mistakes in ACM execution and choice while still not completely blowing your chances at wining the fight. This is especially true with the spit 16. Also, making shots with the weaponry is much easier in the spits with the hispanos than the 109 with the 30mm. And good aim makes a huge difference.
I still challenge the "easy mode" statement because almost any plane with the right pilot behind the stick can be considered "easy mode". See Humble's comments above. The Spits have deficiencies that can be exploited. However, if you step into the Spitfire's envelope of best performance and your plane and/or skill is not better, then you are in trouble. Knowing that line and when to cross it is a big plateau that we all reach at some point.
PS-Darn those guys at Supermarine Aviation Works for building such well balanced planes. :D
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This all goes back to pilot and plane strength. No question the spitty is easier to fly but regardless of plane type if you talk to guys who are known for flying a particular plane they rarely view the spitfire as significant threat. I think that most of them like me view the spitIX and the seafire as bigger threats then the XVI. I've always found that the guys like bruv who fly the 16 well also fly everything else exceptionally well. The average spitty driver lets the plane do the heavy lifting and is somewhat deficient in certain aspects of ACM much of the time.
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The biggest issue I have with the spitty is its inability to bleed E quickly. It's very susceptible to a good "two way game". what I mean by that is a good stick who flys in the verticals and works his throttle and G load can make it very difficult for a spit driver to avoid either overshooting or scrubbing so much E he is -E all of a sudden. Any time the spit driver is +E and presented with a largely in plane fight the combination of guns and pure turn make things pretty easy...but put that same spitty in a fight were the other guy gets him fast then slow then fast and uses roll/pitch/yaw (obviously the XVI does roll much better then the VIII/IX) now the average spitty driver is struggling to keep up with his plane.
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The First commandment is hard to follow due to my 109 dweebness.
(K-4 = 20 G-14 = 25)
But i CONCURR with the rest.
perdweeb
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BTW, I love the Snoop Doggy Dogg reference. Insert Squaddies :)
perdweeb (Jonah's CO and owner)
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You can stick number 5 up your bottom, whale bait.
Haha, spit's are weeny planes, to easy to fly.
-BigBOBCH
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This all goes back to pilot and plane strength. No question the spitty is easier to fly but regardless of plane type if you talk to guys who are known for flying a particular plane they rarely view the spitfire as significant threat. I think that most of them like me view the spitIX and the seafire as bigger threats then the XVI. I've always found that the guys like bruv who fly the 16 well also fly everything else exceptionally well. The average spitty driver lets the plane do the heavy lifting and is somewhat deficient in certain aspects of ACM much of the time.
you must be getting me confused with Kazaa, I only up the 16 on rare occasions If I need to dodge 4 or 5 guys capping a field. Changing direction quickly helps snapshooting BnZers.
I fly the Spit 8 + 9 if i'm taking a Spit up. I fly what I fancy and usually do very well in most rides.
I do laugh at the guys who call Spitfire's easy mode though yes they are forgiving but If you stand toe to toe against a Spitfire experten Your going to die REAL quick. The best example of this is Draggon's Spit 16. Resorts to name calling soon as you get punked in two / three turns
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This all goes back to pilot and plane strength. No question the spitty is easier to fly but regardless of plane type if you talk to guys who are known for flying a particular plane they rarely view the spitfire as significant threat. I think that most of them like me view the spitIX and the seafire as bigger threats then the XVI. I've always found that the guys like bruv who fly the 16 well also fly everything else exceptionally well. The average spitty driver lets the plane do the heavy lifting and is somewhat deficient in certain aspects of ACM much of the time.
Yeap, that doesn't sound like Bruv, he sucks in a Spitfire.
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Here's how I feel about Spits.
If you're "good" in a Spit, you're average at best. If you're and expert in a Spit you're good.
Bruv on the other hand, just sucks completely :neener:
perdweeb
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Here's how I feel about Spits.
If you're "good" in a Spit, you're average at best. If you're and expert in a Spit you're good.
Bruv on the other hand, just sucks completely :neener:
perdweeb
I lol at your generalisation.
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I lol at your generalisation.
Is that how you limeys spell generalization? :O
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Is that how you limeys spell generalization? :O
Perhaps he was taken short in his lorry and had to use the loo for a bit. Whilst there, he marvelled at the colours (though most of it was black as tarmacadam) produced by his labours to the extent that he saved a bit in the bin liner. Though it smelled of petrol, he still felt compelled to take it on holiday. While showing it to marvelling spectators at Caravan park, he was accosted by a constable. She was a pretty bird but was not at all impressed at his offal. She checked him into mental hospital as a result. He still resides there, consulting with his vicar and his solicitor daily, and only ventures outside after donning his mac - whether the sky is grey or not.
Har-umph.
Lethbridge-Stewart, DSO, retd.
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Spits are more fun. They are more fun to fight against and still pretty fun to fight in. Things that specialize in running are not fun.
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Things that specialize in running are not fun.
sure they are. it's not the plane that makes a rundweeb, it's the pilot. brewsters and zeros sometimes drop the nose and try to run. just because u fly a fast plane does not make you a runner.
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"Never had a problem with Jonah...."
Nor me, 'Jonah' was my favourite cartoon in the ol' Dandy comic when I was a nipper: every one ended with his ship sinking due to his bungling bad luck.
Commandments, on the other hand, I tend to ignore, being a free-thinking sort.
:cool:
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Thou shalt not drink beer with an ENY value less than 20. :cheers:
Thou shalt use Gondolas even without buff runs :devil
Thou shalt engage a dot command that allows one to switch load-out. :pray
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"Never had a problem with Jonah...."
Jonah hates the Irish :mad:
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if you need another plane in addition to yours to kill somebody than neither of you are worth playing with in my opinion.
Would you agree that "if you need another player in addition to yourself to score a touchdown than neither of you are worth playing with in my opinion."?
AH and football are both team games.
if i drag someone away and they follow me to get into a one on one fight, then it is clear TO ME that from that action of following me away from everyone that they dont want anyone to jump in either. if they did want someone to jump in, then they would not have followed me away from the group. u see the logic here?
Different issue, and your assumption is flawed in that it assumes the person following you had control over whether anyone else followed. Sure, hording and ridiculous or consistent ganging are bad, but they don't exist the moment any fight in the arena involves more than one plane. That's just silly.
I would agree that out of politeness one should refrain from jumping into an existing 1-1 (that isn't right on the edge of a furball) without asking the friendly whether he would prefer you stay out. However, you should keep in mind that you're in the MA, not the DA.
(Yeah, I know, the DA sucks. Sorry. Maybe we should have more threads telling people how they should play in the DA and fewer about trying to turn the MA into what the DA ought to be, since the former is nothing like it is supposed to be while the latter isn't so far off the mark.)
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Would you agree that "if you need another player in addition to yourself to score a touchdown than neither of you are worth playing with in my opinion."?
AH and football are both team games.
in football u get 11 players on the field per team. no more, no less. are you allowed extra help when it's time to score a touchdown? no. apples and oranges bro
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in football u get 11 players on the field per team. no more, no less. are you allowed extra help when it's time to score a touchdown? no. apples and oranges bro
Right, what I was trying to say is that multi-plane fights aren't the same as jumping into someone's 1-1. Some people seem to think that 1-1 dueling is the only acceptable way to play this game.
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ahh i c now. i was blinded by the light, revved up like a duece..........wait......nm :uhoh
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Commandments are for sheep.
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I'll expect no less than the worst and best hater comments after I say these commandments on what I believe is proper AH behavior:
1) Thou shall fly planes below 30 ENY value whenever possible:banana:
2) Thou shall Accept the fact that HOs happen
3) unlimited nuts to a fight :aok
4) Thou shall always bomb GV's :cheers:
5) thou shalt recognize skill with a <S> :salute
6) Thou shalt designate a snitch(spy)
7) Thou shalt play only for fun :cool:
8) Its no fun if the squaddies gettin none ;)
Hows that, better?
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sure they are. it's not the plane that makes a rundweeb, it's the pilot. brewsters and zeros sometimes drop the nose and try to run. just because u fly a fast plane does not make you a runner.
the only reason i can land 5 kills or more in a zeke :lol running from the enemy, turn and fight, then run before another catches you :aok (no this isnt really the only way to land 5-10 zero kills im just making a funny
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I havent looked at this thread in like a month and all i gotta say is DAAAAAAAAYUM, simmer down, and DAM PATTIES!
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DAM PATTIES!
proof!! :aok
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A wee bit of the consumption and irish starts thinkin im the only one who hates his people, or for that matter only the irish. I hate lots of things irish, dont act all special. I'm sure alot of people hate the Irish, like the English. And NO cobra its not better. As a matter of fact it has four sides of equal length where opposing sides are parrallel to each other. Thats right, its square, and no I'm not talking about Tiananmen in China. Thou shalt not bomb GVs and thou shalst accept that thou is an a plane and thou shalst only fight planes in planes for thyne kills.
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A wee bit of the consumption and irish starts thinkin im the only one who hates his people, or for that matter only the irish. I hate lots of things irish, dont act all special. I'm sure alot of people hate the Irish, like the English. And NO cobra its not better. As a matter of fact it has four sides of equal length where opposing sides are parrallel to each other. Thats right, its square, and no I'm not talking about Tiananmen in China. Thou shalt not bomb GVs and thou shalst accept that thou is an a plane and thou shalst only fight planes in planes for thyne kills.
NOPE!!!
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Yes :neener: