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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Liberator on October 04, 2000, 11:49:00 AM
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"Would someone inform me whether the hurrican's frame was made of wood or aluminum?"
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"Yes they would, it's wood (covered by a kind of doped linen, I believe)" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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The fuselage was wooden covered by fabric from the cockpit backward to the tail.
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The Hurricane was NOT made of wood! It was an aluminium frame covered in doped linen, except for the cockpit/engine covers, which were aluminium plates.
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The fuselage was a welded, braced steel tube construction, with wooden frames (formers and stringers) and fabric covering.
Initially, the wing was a new-design two-spar monoplane wing covered with fabric.
In 1939 the fabric-covered wing was replaced by one with stressed-skin metal wings. They added a three blade propellor and the Merlin III engine then too.
Great flying airplane...love to have one!
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The Mosquito was wood as well, was it not?
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The Hurri was NOT made of wood.
The Hurri was made of aluminium or steel tubes (don't know which off hand) from behind the cockpit on back. Doped fabric was stratched over that frame to create the rear fuselage. The forward part of the fuselage as well as the wings and tail were stressed skin aluminium. The control surfaces were fabric covered, like contempary Spitfires.
Sisu
-Karnak
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Mossie contained alot of wood, not sure of exact construction though.
SKurj
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Originally posted by liberator:
"Would someone inform me whether the hurrican's frame was made of wood or aluminum?"
Actually the Hurricanes method of construction was more of a blessing than a problem. I have heard mention that German cannon rounds sometimes would not detonate when hitting the fabric, where a harder surface like aluminum would have detonated the rounds.
SKurj
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The Hurricane had aluminium tubing with aluminium alloy formers, and also steel gussets in places. WOOD was used for the top fuselage fairing formers to give it's curved shape - this was still used in combination with alloy/steel. It was then covered in fabric (only rear fuselage). I've got an exploded diagram and by the looks of it, the Hurri sure looks pretty sturdy and take a lot of punishment!
Regards
'Nexx'
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SKurj said:
> Actually the Hurricanes method of
> construction was more of a blessing than a
> problem. I have heard mention that
> German cannon rounds sometimes would not
> detonate when hitting the fabric, where a
> harder surface like aluminum would have
> detonated the rounds.
> SKurj
I see this as a good point/problem with the SM.79 when/if it shows. Many hits to the fuselage will not hit anything hard enough to set off the round, and the "overpressure" effect of ones that do will not be as effective as on a monocoque (sp?) construction
mc202
Dino in Reno
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...because she's made of wood?
A WITCH!
BURN HER! BURN HER!
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Ah but Citabria, which is heavier? A Witch? A block of Wood? or a Duck? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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A duck!
who art thee who are so wise in the ways of science?
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Isn't Monty Python sooooo funny!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
And to finish it all off, I will quote the "Witch" from that scene.
"Oh Bugger!"
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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"Go Away or I shall taunt you a Second time!"
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Hamish!
[This message has been edited by Hamish (edited 10-06-2000).]
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Nexx,
I thought the fuselage tubing was chrome/molly steel. Almost certain.
Are you sure about aluminum?
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I think Toad has it right?
I dug up an article on a Hurricane restoration(P3351) and it says T50 steel, rolled into tubes.
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Hi Toad
Not too sure on the tubing, I can try and find out from the BBMF. The aluminium was used mostly for joints, or what they call the fairing formers (large teardrop frames). Those are the large vertical sections that keep all the various tubes/wires etc together. I didn't realise at just how many different materials was actually used - just showed they used whatever they could get their hands on. So, judging by the diagram, it looks like aluminium alloy was used for the large structural frames. Probably the chrome/molly steel for the main tubing. Small strips of aluminium for the small lower fuselage vertical support beams or rather strips. Wood for the top fairing formers in conjuction with alloy. And finally steel wire that runs horizontally down the rear fuselage that most likely keeps the canvas down. Steel (guessets) was used to join most of the tubes together and fix them onto the joists/frames. Alloy gussets were used on the smaller alloy structures.
The actual composition of the types of metal is another thing and something I don't know.
Cyas up!
'Nexx'
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Thanks, Nexx. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Not that it really matters all that much, eh?
Most WW2 era aircraft used steel tubing for the frame work. Strong, cheap, easily assembled (welded) and relatively light.
They didn't really have all the modern alloys we use.