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Title: He177
Post by: -tronski- on February 17, 2001, 08:39:00 PM

For those who cant wait:

 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Skyrats/files/missile_1.jpg)

to D/L 2.8 Meg :http://cfs2.dogfighter.com/pages/review/he177/


-tronski-
486 Sqn (NZ), "hiwa hau maka"

Title: He177
Post by: juzz on February 17, 2001, 09:38:00 PM

Oooohh, that is sweeet...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Title: He177
Post by: brady on February 18, 2001, 12:40:00 AM

Yes this a very cool bomber i wold love to fly it  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

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...howeaver Italy Russia and Japan are do a Buff now...

Brady

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Title: He177
Post by: juzz on February 18, 2001, 04:31:00 AM

Yep, the S.M.79-II, Pe-2 and P1Y1 would be nice!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: He177
Post by: Replicant on February 18, 2001, 07:05:00 AM

Is the He177 the one with 2 engines within 1?

Nexx

Title: He177
Post by: Jimdandy on February 18, 2001, 07:39:00 AM

I've asked for this one a couple times and I generally get blank looks. I'm glad that some others want to see it also.

Title: He177
Post by: RAM on February 18, 2001, 08:19:00 AM

 

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Originally posted by Replicant:
Is the He177 the one with 2 engines within 1?

Nexx

Not exactly; the He177 carried two DB606, and from the A5 onwards, two DB610 engines.


The DB606 and DB610 consisted on two V12 engines mated to a common crankshaft. The DB606 consisted on two DB601 mated and the DB610 consisted on two DB603s.

This configuration was selected to reduce the drag of an 4-engined plane to that of a 2 engined one. Germany relied in speedy bombers instead of heavily armed ones, and the He177 was renowned to do attacks on the UK in a very soft dive, keeping some 400mph on the process.

To mate 2 engines into one was not an uncommon thing to do those days. (the problems attached to them: overheating, and inflight fires weren't strange either).

 If I remember correctly the RAF did the same with the RR Vulture (two Kestrels mated) and the Napier Sabre (no idea on wich 2 engines mated in this one  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)). The avro Manchester was born with a similar concept as the He177, with two Vultures instead of four engines. We all know how did the Manchester perform, and how did the Lancaster (the four engine version) compare with it.


In fact a 4 engine version of the He177 existed, the He277, engined with four DB603s. Its tests were successfull, but the production never happened because the RLM shifted all the production available to fighters.

Title: He177
Post by: Gorf on February 18, 2001, 08:27:00 AM

By the way,  THIS Skin for Combat Flight Simulator2 by Microsoft.  For those interested.

Title: He177
Post by: Fishu on February 18, 2001, 08:41:00 AM

He177 looks like a cigar with wings  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: He177
Post by: Replicant on February 18, 2001, 04:51:00 PM

Thanks RAM, just remembered reading something about it, wasn't sure whether they were mated (I know what you mean, I was a mechanic and precision engineer) or some gearing device from 2 engines.  Nice plane though, have always been impressed with it's load capability and pretty good armanent too.  Some had a big forward nose gun on a pylon didn't they?  20mm?  30mm?

Regards

Nexx

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Title: He177
Post by: brady on February 18, 2001, 05:25:00 PM

  Thats a 20mm in the pic i posted above in the forward gondala.

  Brady

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Title: He177
Post by: juzz on February 18, 2001, 08:02:00 PM

There were some with either a 30mm, 50mm or even 75mm cannon too.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Title: He177
Post by: Andy Bush on February 19, 2001, 07:17:00 AM

About the only thing that the He-177 did that was notable was burn up.

Andy

Title: He177
Post by: Effdub on February 19, 2001, 10:30:00 AM

other than burn up it could also dive bomb... but the lanc in AH can immelman so I guess that's nothing special... :P

Effdub

Title: He177
Post by: brady on February 19, 2001, 11:02:00 AM

  Andy Bush, At first they were fire traps, but the later models(the A5 i think), had ironed out much of the teething troubles the early ones suffered from.
  Aside from their use in the baby Blitz on London in 44, and the antishiping duties in the Bay of Biscay and the Atlantic, they were used(and in large groups 100 plus planes)in the East to attack Russian lines of communications, rail heads brothels ect...

Brady


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