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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: leonid on October 05, 2000, 05:13:00 AM
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AH may probably have a heavy US customer base, but unless there are more non-US aircraft the European/Asian community will probably never really make the usually costly jump to here.
I hope that after the release of v1.05 you may consider spending more time on non-US aircraft.
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Very right, Leonid. It might be hard to understand for some of US players, but there are also WW2 planes addicts in other countries.
This one used to give away 1/3 of his monthly income to play AH. I guess that allows me to whine here and there (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
P.S.
Dora, anyone ?
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Yak9d
La7
lagg 3
Il2 or Il10
pe2
ki61 (pleeeeeeeaaaase!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) )
ki43 (please please! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) )
ki84 (very important ija plane)
a6m3 models 22 and 32
ki45 nick
g4m betty bomber
bf110g
ju52 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
fw190d9
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No more late war monsters, not even the D9.
More midwar (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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StSanta
9./JG 54 "Grünherz"
(http://voices.vossnet.co.uk/t/toles/9jg54.gif)
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I only fly LW so of course I only want LW planes..
BUT.... There needs to be a larger selection of Soviet planes.... and JP planes.
My list isn't as extensive but here goes a rough one:
Bf110
Bf109E (of course I had to add these..hehe)
Hurricane
I-16 Rata
Il-2
Ki100 (sry not all that familar with the different JP planes)
The Betty (GM2?)
Val
As you can see "most" of my plane selections are for early war periods.
Wingnut
GeschwaderKommadore
P.T.R. "Black 13"
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Plz come back to 1942-43 ... for crissake. We need Hurricanes, Ki84s, SM79s, Lagg and Yaks, IL-2s, HS-129, Macchi C.200s ...
[This message has been edited by gatt (edited 10-05-2000).]
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So I guess you would say a big nyet! to this plane? (P-39Q?)
(http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/p39d_3.jpg)
Seriously; La-7, Ki-84-Ib, Tempest Mk V, Fw 190D-9, P-63C (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
[This message has been edited by juzz (edited 10-05-2000).]
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Couldn't agree more (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Except I would prefer the either the Ki-67 "Peggy" or the P1Y "Frances" over the dog of a Betty any day of the week.
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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure
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Originally posted by Vermillion:
Couldn't agree more (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Except I would prefer the either the Ki-67 "Peggy" or the P1Y "Frances" over the dog of a Betty any day of the week.
Sry..said I wasn't all that familar with Jp planes...Peggy was the one I was thinking of..not the Betty
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Ahhh.. give us plane sets from 39-42, so there won't be any yanks and then set it up on a historical arena (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I like the way how WW2 online begins.. from early planes and then goes on.
(and does not model top of line US planes and then give bunch of mid/early war planes for others)
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and these...
(http://www.egroups.com/files/Skyrats/john010.jpg)
(http://www.egroups.com/files/Skyrats/pic-beau.jpg)
(http://www.egroups.com/files/Skyrats/hurri.jpg)
anything 1939-43 works for me
-tronski- RNZAF (http://www.egroups.com/files/Skyrats/486.gif)
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Hurricane and Mosquito would do the R.A.F. nicely.
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Squadron Leader, Igloo.
C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York (http://www.trueorigins.net/411rcaf)
"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]
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Stuka, pe-2, shturmovik, aircobra. And t-34/41 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Fariz
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Let's not forget Brewster (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sturmovik, Sturmovik, Sturmovik!!!
Really there is nothing else quite like it. Since it is so unique and it would make a very nice vehicle and field killer, I think it is the compelling choice for the next plane in the list.
Hooligan
P.S. the version with the 37mm can-openers is preferred
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It will be strange having US naval units and not one Axis attack/bomber aircraft that actually was encountered in the pacific...
SKurj
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The "Twos": Il-2, Pe-2, Tu-2!
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Funked
How about Su-2, Er-2, Ar-2, Yak-2 ?
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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MiG-1!
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
- Jig
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Non US..
Ya kidding me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
When AH was released, how many US planes did we have, and how many NON US?
After the 1st 3 months how many US planes and variants, and how many Non US and variants?
You guys have very short memories, how many 109 variants do you want?
I wouldnt mind seeing a P51B or the RAF P51II
Dog out.......
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Wardog,
You are right, I shouldn't have said non-US. My bad (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I'll be more specific. Right now, here is where we'll be when v1.05 comes out:
Planes/Variants
USA: 11
Germany: 7
UK: 4
Italian: 2
Japanese: 2
Soviet: 2
To make things even with USA, HTC needs to make 9 more aircraft for Italy, Japan, and Soviet Union each, 7 more for RAF, and 4 more for Luftwaffe. Oh, and maybe one for Finland too - F2A (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Not a knock against HTC, just a heads up is all.
Wow, that would be 60+ aircraft, more than WB, and a better mix too.
[This message has been edited by leonid (edited 10-06-2000).]
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Hmmm, let me see. Starting from the top:
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4 more German aircraft
Fw190D-9 with MW50
Ju88C-6
Me410A-1
Bf110G-2
7 more British aircraft
Hurricane MkIIc
Spitfire F.MkXIV
Tempest MkV
Mosquito B.MkIV
Mosquito FB.MkVI
Wellington B.MkX
Boulton-Paul Defiant MkI
9 more Italian aircraft
C.200
SM.79
CR.42
G.50
G.55
BR.20
RE.2001
CA.313
RE.2005
9 more Japanese aircraft
Ki84 "Frank"
J2M5 Raiden "Jack"
H8K2 "Emily"
Ki61 IIb Hien "Tony"
P1Y1 Ginka "Frances"
Ki44 Shoki "Tojo"
A6M3 Zero
B7A1 Ryusei "Grace"
A7M2 Reppu "Sam"
9 more Russian aircraft
Il-2M3
Tu-2
La-7
Pe-2
Yak-3
MiG-3
I-16
Tb-7
La-3
2 token Finnish aircraft
Brewster Buffalo
Fokker XXI
2 token French aircraft
D.520
Curtiss Hawk
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Alright, everybody'd be happy, right?
NOT!!!
Actually, I kinda like that list.
Sisu
-Karnak
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How close was the Hurricane IID to the C? Was it basically a C airframe with fixed 40mm gondolas and 2 .303s in the wings?
[This message has been edited by -duma- (edited 10-07-2000).]
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There will always be more US planes - simply because there were many different types, they flew in every theatre, and flew in many different air forces.
However I think the really big omission at the moment is in bomber/attack aircraft. Only LW and RAF have bombers.
IMO the Il-2 should be the No.1 priority aircraft. It was made in larger numbers than any aircraft, ever afaik. It was arguably the most important aircraft of WW2 for the Soviet Union(and thus the Allied forces).
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Only LW and RAF have bombers...
B17, B26... are US correct?
SKurj
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Originally posted by SKurj:
Only LW and RAF have bombers...
B17, B26... are US correct?
SKurj
And as far as the arena goes, totally out classed by the Ju88 and Lanc in all but defensive guns (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
- Jig
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Really Jig? In what aspects does the 88 outclass the B26?
Sorry not had the chance to find out for myself yet, as I am waiting for HT to activate my subscription already!!! grrr (haven't flown since 1.03)
Ok mebbe we need the a26 then +)
SKurj
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We dont have Italian and Japanese bombers!
Bring in those:
S.79 Sparviero
Year : 1936
Engine : 3 x Alfa Romeo P.126 RC.34, 1000 hrs.pwr.
Wingspan : 21.20 m
Length : 16.20 m
Weight : 12500 kg
Max. speed : 434 km/h
Ceiling : 7000 m
Range : 1900 km
Crew : 5
Payload : 1000kg bombs
Armament : 3x12.7mm guns
and
Mitsubishi Ki.67-I-Otsu Hiryu
Year : 1944
Engine : 2 x Mitsubishi Ha.104 , 1900 hrs.pwr.
Wingspan : 22.50 m
Length : 18.70 m
Weight : 13765 kg
Max. speed : 537 km/h
Ceiling : 9470 m
Range : 3800 km
Crew : 6
Payload : 800kg bombs or 900kg torpedo
Armament : 1x20mm + 4x12.7mm guns
And some fighter
G.55/I Centauro
Year : 1943
Engine : 1 x Daimler-Benz DB605A , 1475 hrs.pwr.
Wingspan : 11.85 m
Length : 9.38 m
Weight : 3720 kg
Max. speed : 620 km/h
Ceiling : 13000 m
Range : 1650 km
Crew : 1
Armament : 3x20mm + 2x12.7mm guns
Nakajima Ki.84-I-Ko Hayate
Year : 1944
Engine : 1 x Nakajima Ha.45 , 1900 hrs.pwr.
Wingspan : 11.23 m
Length : 9.92 m
Weight : 3890 kg
Max. speed : 631 km/h
Ceiling : 10500 m
Range : 1695 km
Crew : 1
Armament : 2x20mm + 2x13mm guns
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SKurj; Compared to the B-26B the Ju-88A-4 has a slightly higher top speed(if it does not carry external bombs), a higher ceiling and bigger bombload. It is also more manouverable and has dive brakes.
However the B-26B is superior in climbrate, cruising speed(not that you need to cruise in AH) and armament.
Mmmm, a "destroyer" Ju-88C would be sweet...
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Originally posted by juzz:
SKurj; Compared to the B-26B the Ju-88A-4 has a slightly higher top speed(if it does not carry external bombs), a higher ceiling and bigger bombload. It is also more manouverable and has dive brakes.
However the B-26B is superior in climbrate, cruising speed(not that you need to cruise in AH) and armament.
Mmmm, a "destroyer" Ju-88C would be sweet...
Higher top speed? wow.. to me B-26 seems like a sprinter compared to Ju-88..
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Originally posted by Fishu:
Higher top speed? wow.. to me B-26 seems like a sprinter compared to Ju-88..
check it offline. Ju88 is a bit slower with external 500kg bombs, and about even without
B-26's acceleration is alot better tho.
they are both cows with full fuel tho (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
- Jig