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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Wolfala on March 18, 2010, 09:02:34 AM
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So, might as well land on a CV. Its about the right sight picture.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbY9A_3DmM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbY9A_3DmM)
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Best thing about 262's on CVs? Full flaps and they will take back off on their own.
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"Caution wake turbulence" - lol, have a lot of heavies taking off eh, lol!
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very nice
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Nicely done but needs more appropriate comms. "Cleared to land runway one three left" doesn't really work on a CV (and neither does any of the rest of the comms).
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Nicely done but needs more appropriate comms. "Cleared to land runway one three left" doesn't really work on a CV (and neither does any of the rest of the comms).
I don't have access to CAATC comms, got plenty of AWACS hanging around.
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I don't have access to CAATC comms, got plenty of AWACS hanging around.
Actually, most appropriate would be no comms at all. Almost all day VFR recoveries at the boat are CaseI/Zip lip (i.e., nobody says anything) but you video is still pretty cool :D
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Actually, most appropriate would be no comms at all. Almost all day VFR recoveries at the boat are CaseI/Zip lip (i.e., nobody says anything) but you video is still pretty cool :D
well if I wanted to put in with the marshal stack Comms I suppose that would be about it. Anyways, jfk the other night was intersting, so hey.
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Why did you land from the back of the CV?
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Nice landing Wolfala!
Here is an Arado CV landing with space left to take off after. Arado is easier than a 262.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owp7w7qG0EI
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Nice landing Wolfala!
Here is an Arado CV landing with space left to take off after. Arado is easier than a 262.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owp7w7qG0EI
Arado is a puppy when slow with her toejam out. Did you try a stabilized constant descent approach rather them the flat over the deck and dump it? How would it affect yr landing roll you think?
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A proper descent approach is alot harder to do right, definitely makes for a longer roll. Most likely not leaving enough room for take off. Rolex taught me to land with the correct descent approach years ago in the Arado, this one was just a gamey 'pancake' to see if I could take off again without having to roll back.
Do you think it's possible to land a 262 with enough space to takeoff? Perhaps with a pancake it might be, I might have to go and try it later.
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A proper descent approach is alot harder to do right, definitely makes for a longer roll. Most likely not leaving enough room for take off. Rolex taught me to land with the correct descent approach years ago in the Arado, this one was just a gamey 'pancake' to see if I could take off again without having to roll back.
Do you think it's possible to land a 262 with enough space to takeoff? Perhaps with a pancake it might be, I might have to go and try it later.
properly? No, not without a backtaxi to the fantail of the deck. Airspeed low, max out the AoA, and in
a world of tremendous toejam. Now if you were a featherweight, no ammo and say 25% gas, that's a big maybe. Might be worth a TA session to try.
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Revised and resubmitted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d34CZ7XRqBs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d34CZ7XRqBs)
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Whats more fun is landing a 163 on a CV :joystick:
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When you are REALLY bored, try landing lets say a Hog on a CV... but in the opposite direction. If you are really that hardcore, do it while its turning :devil
You gotta trust those cables that they can work backwards :pray
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When you are REALLY bored, try landing lets say a Hog on a CV... but in the opposite direction. If you are really that hardcore, do it while its turning :devil
You gotta trust those cables that they can work backwards :pray
About a year ago, my squad and I were flying F6f's in FSO and we were all rtb. I was the last one up, I managed to land with about 30 seconds left in the frame, having run out of fuel about a minute ago at 1k. I had to put in on the front of the cv, one of the most memoriable landings I'll probably ever make.
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I have a video from 2008 between myself and AKAK - I was a 47N, he a 38J. We collided after the merge while vertical. I was missing a wing and engine, he was missing an engine and I think his tail. When I view it in today's film viewer however it doesn't show the damage, and the CV is displaced from its real position. I dead sticked it to the CV from that with that damage. I could post it but none of the damage shows which is kinda the whole point of it.
http://rapidshare.com/files/368862964/Holy_sh_carrier_landing_post_AKAK_meeting.ahf.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/368862964/Holy_sh_carrier_landing_post_AKAK_meeting.ahf.html)
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A brief roundup of this months CV operations.
There are a lot of 262 parts scattered around - at least 1 from enemy action, 2 from mid air collisions, and a bent bird that was attempting recovery on the CV and had a ramp strike. Last night especially, with no wing tips, and crashing on the fan tail of the CV - you would've cried. It was really tragic. There is a really nasty corner in that bird where if you get behind the power curve, max out the AoA, you are in a world of sht. Sadly I got the tape of that - kinda like the F100 videos from back in the day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJkKcXYqSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyJkKcXYqSU)
The normal approach speed was 120 with nothing wrong. Missing those tips, I had it around 140. But even then, I was constantly within 2 to 3 degrees of max AoA. On short final, we were developing a sink rate from use of the rudder to keep the nose down the deck with no aileron - it imparted a yaw motion which really increased the drag. Spool up time on the engines takes until next christmas - and the result was more sink and a ramp strike.
Believe it or not, I had 1 guy riding jump seat and 1 guy in the 5 inch to act as an LSO. He made all the right calls - sometimes it just doesn't go the way we planned.
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/262CVoperationsmodcopy.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/262rampstrikept1modcopy.jpg)
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/262rampstrikept2modcopy.jpg)
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ouch...
those pics make the game look amazing
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OK,
Did some testing on optimum approach profiles with the CV. 140 indicated, 135, 120, and 115. Special thanks to MachFly who waited patiently on the side of the CV to take the camera positions.
End result - 120 indicated or lower when 25% gas and scoche ammo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbD8y8j4y0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmbD8y8j4y0)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1z-GaMMnfs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1z-GaMMnfs)
Video with louder audio