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Title: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 20, 2010, 10:45:05 PM: Thought I would put up some profiles I have on this plane as of yet no one seems to be interested in skinning it.
Also there is photos of a number of these profiles.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan1-8.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan2-12.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan3-4.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan4-2.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan5-4.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan6-3.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan7-6.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan8-9.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan9-5-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan10-4.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan11-4.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan12-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Banshee7 on March 20, 2010, 11:01:13 PM: Can I have A-7198 or A-7200 please, please, please :pray I know one of you skinners out there will attempt it :cheers:

Or D-8084 :rock
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 20, 2010, 11:22:35 PM: Quote from: Banshee7 on March 20, 2010, 11:01:13 PM
Can I have A-7198 or A-7200 please, please, please :pray I know one of you skinners out there will attempt it :cheers:

Or D-8084 :rock
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan-2-1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan1-9.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan2-13-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Banshee7 on March 20, 2010, 11:49:43 PM: A-7200'a wings look to be solid white, where as A-7198's lower left and upper right are white. I like A-7198 the best!
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Tec on March 21, 2010, 12:17:04 AM: Is there any info in your resources on B1288 "Brisfish"?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Larry on March 21, 2010, 12:42:16 AM: I really want to skin one since its my favorite plane in WWI but I don't have the his res pack installed. If one of you could give me the hires files Id be more then willing to make a few for you guys. BTW #24 looks like a winner.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 21, 2010, 01:17:41 AM: Quote from: Tec on March 21, 2010, 12:17:04 AM
Is there any info in your resources on B1288 "Brisfish"?
No my book is on aces only. Although I do have that info I was saving it for a skinner with a template that would do it justice.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B1288_3.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B1288_2.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B1288_1.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Bristol_2.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/i2006-05_22.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/phpThumb_generated_thumbnailjpg.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/biff0002.jpg)
(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/biff0001.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Larry on March 21, 2010, 01:39:35 AM: omg I think I need to go change my underwear.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 21, 2010, 01:41:20 AM: Some other pics I have.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/B01646.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3288870174_5eb4783542_b.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/P02413a.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/P02413.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan8-5.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/bristolfighter_b1146.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/3288865828_f0fb56ea48_b.jpg)

If we ever get a perk for ords option in WWI arena.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan5-5-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: perdue3 on March 21, 2010, 07:06:34 AM: No Bristol Crocodile?

perdweeb
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: perdue3 on March 21, 2010, 07:09:10 AM: here

perdweeb
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Banshee7 on March 21, 2010, 12:09:33 PM: A-7194 :O

3 skins that would all work...IDK which one i like the most now :uhoh
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 21, 2010, 07:33:13 PM: Quote from: Banshee7 on March 21, 2010, 12:09:33 PM
A-7194 :O

3 skins that would all work...IDK which one i like the most now :uhoh
A7194 has had two paint schemes depending on what you like.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2010, 07:40:16 PM: Holy schlamoley!

Anybody that actually skins brisfish or crocodile deserves a major salute and gets a big feather in their (proverbial) cap!
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 21, 2010, 07:48:37 PM: Quote from: perdue3 on March 21, 2010, 07:06:34 AM
No Bristol Crocodile?

perdweeb
Don't know if that one is acceptable I think it was a training squadron aircraft. Same may apply for Brisfish to?

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/thumb-8583-1239735003-untitled-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2010, 07:58:34 PM: Well, was it operational training (i.e. saw action, even though "training" in designation)? Or just UK-based training (i.e. never went to the continent)?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: perdue3 on March 21, 2010, 09:02:55 PM: I personally can't say for sure, I have built the plastic model (holy schlamoley is exactly right on the scheme!) and will look at the brief history in the kit itself. it should specify if it was operational or not.

"In line with this series of releases, only one scheme is catered for. The spectacular subject is F.2B serial C4879 which was photographed at No.33 TDS Witney." -Review Text and Images Copyright © 2008 by Rob Baumgartner
Page Created 11 February, 2008
Last updated 11 February, 2008

"The Crocodile” is believed to have been flown by the Wing Examining Officer and although it was known to have crashed, its eventual fate remains a mystery." - Review Text and Images Copyright © 2008 by Rob Baumgartner
Page Created 11 February, 2008
Last updated 11 February, 2008

I have more info on No. 33 Squadron but no more specifics on the Crocodile Fighter.

perdweeb
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 21, 2010, 10:11:24 PM: I have been waiting for a couple of books that I think have some history on these aircraft should be here this week some time. The books are no longer printed so they are some what hard to find.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 27, 2010, 01:22:41 AM: Quote from: Larry on March 21, 2010, 12:42:16 AM
I really want to skin one since its my favorite plane in WWI but I don't have the his res pack installed. If one of you could give me the hires files Id be more then willing to make a few for you guys. BTW #24 looks like a winner.
Have a photo of it now claim it if you want it. :aok

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan8-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 27, 2010, 01:25:37 AM: Quote from: Banshee7 on March 21, 2010, 12:09:33 PM
A-7194 :O

3 skins that would all work...IDK which one i like the most now :uhoh
One more picture of A-7194 that might help make up your mind.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan9-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 27, 2010, 01:29:18 AM: Quote from: Krusty on March 21, 2010, 07:58:34 PM
Well, was it operational training (i.e. saw action, even though "training" in designation)? Or just UK-based training (i.e. never went to the continent)?
The books I ordered arrived they have info about the aircraft but no mention of being in a training squadron or a home defence squadron. The one thing in common for training squadrons & home defence squadrons is that none of the pictures I have show a rear gun in any of those two squads?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on March 27, 2010, 01:32:42 AM: Some new profiles I have. Also there is photos for a lot of them if any one wants to choose a particular aircraft.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan4-3.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan7-7.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan5-6.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan6-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: jay on April 01, 2010, 08:39:08 AM: i "might" skin a F2B as it looks to be a good starting point for me (beginner)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Krusty on April 01, 2010, 09:29:56 AM: Because of the damage layer technical issues, I might suggest skinning a WW2 plane as your first attempt, then after gaining some experience move on to the F2b.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: jay on April 01, 2010, 10:18:17 AM: Quote from: Krusty on April 01, 2010, 09:29:56 AM
Because of the damage layer technical issues, I might suggest skinning a WW2 plane as your first attempt, then after gaining some experience move on to the F2b.

yeah i just read that,will that effect ALL the WW2 skins currently in game when the damage model is changed?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Krusty on April 01, 2010, 10:35:06 AM: It is unique to the WW1 planes only, with their cloth/wood construction.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: jay on April 01, 2010, 10:45:13 AM: k
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: mensa180 on April 02, 2010, 12:54:21 PM: The texture for this skin is daunting, I'm making a version of it with a layer that shows each part labeled. I hope it helps some people.

edit: The trouble starts when we come to parts that I don't know the names of :lol.

edit2:

BRISTOL.psd (http://encodable.com/cgi-bin/filechucker.cgi?action=landing&path=/f2b/&file=BRISTOL.psd)

BRISTOL2.psd (http://encodable.com/cgi-bin/filechucker.cgi?action=landing&path=/f2b/&file=BRISTOL2.psd)

BRISTOL.bmp (http://encodable.com/cgi-bin/filechucker.cgi?action=landing&path=/f2b/&file=BRISTOL.bmp)

BRISTOL2.bmp (http://encodable.com/cgi-bin/filechucker.cgi?action=landing&path=/f2b/&file=BRISTOL2.bmp)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Banshee7 on April 04, 2010, 10:45:39 PM: Quote from: lyric1 on March 27, 2010, 01:32:42 AM
Some new profiles I have. Also there is photos for a lot of them if any one wants to choose a particular aircraft.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan4-3.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan7-7.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan5-6.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan6-4.jpg)

Ok, lyric, you just made my decision even harder! Ok, how's this. Any skin that's brown and white will do :P
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: mensa180 on April 04, 2010, 11:04:02 PM: Are there any color swatches for WWI planes? I looked at simmerspaintshop, maybe I didn't look hard enough.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Larry on April 05, 2010, 01:01:09 PM: Quote from: mensa180 on April 04, 2010, 11:04:02 PM
Are there any color swatches for WWI planes? I looked at simmerspaintshop, maybe I didn't look hard enough.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org

I used this one back when I skinned but it looks like they changed the site around. I remember they have WWI-modern.

here we go.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/colorcharts.asp
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on April 05, 2010, 04:07:06 PM: Quote from: Larry on April 05, 2010, 01:01:09 PM
I used this one back when I skinned
You have stopped skinning?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: mensa180 on April 05, 2010, 10:24:36 PM: Lyric do you have any more info on the F.2B D-7939, No.20 Squadron "TORONTO"?

edit: A second profile I found.

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9431/torontog.png)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on April 05, 2010, 11:40:50 PM: Quote from: mensa180 on April 05, 2010, 10:24:36 PM
Lyric do you have any more info on the F.2B D-7939, No.20 Squadron "TORONTO"?

edit: A second profile I found.

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9431/torontog.png)

Yes I do these two are the only pictures I have.

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan3-9.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan2-19.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan4-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: mensa180 on April 06, 2010, 12:49:58 AM: I am far from being an accurate judge of black and white photography but it looks to me like the white cowl is the more accurate version?

Thanks for the additional images. I'm still wondering about that right side though.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on April 06, 2010, 01:40:06 AM: Quote from: mensa180 on April 06, 2010, 12:49:58 AM
I am far from being an accurate judge of black and white photography but it looks to me like the white cowl is the more accurate version?

Thanks for the additional images. I'm still wondering about that right side though.
My Guess the letter P maybe on the right? I only have two other pictures of this squadron showing the right side one has a letter on it & the other has nothing? I think the cowl is grey if you look at these pictures of white cowled F2'S I think you can see there is quite a difference. Based off my prior photo of TORONTO The letter R plane I think has it's cowl painted the same olive drab as the rest of the plane giving the illusion that TORONTO is white. My best guess. Any one else have any thoughts on this?

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan3-10.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan4-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Mus51 on April 06, 2010, 03:21:16 AM: All i can see is lots of profiles, but i haven't seen any of the skins in game so far. Anyone started on these yet? If not i might aswell give it a go.

EDIT: i understand mensa is starting with 'F.2B D-7939, No.20 Squadron "TORONTO"?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: mensa180 on April 06, 2010, 09:42:50 AM: Mus I doubt my work will be good enough to submit, or if I even totally complete it. I'm just trying to have some fun and learn. If it turns out nicely then maybe submit.

I was looking for an F.2B that had a white cowl.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on April 06, 2010, 12:12:58 PM: Quote from: mensa180 on April 06, 2010, 09:42:50 AM

I was looking for an F.2B that had a white cowl.
I have no profiles of WW1 F2's with white cowls. Most of the pictures I have showing white cowl's were trainers or are post war,or they don't have enough information about them to know exactly when they had the lighter noses post during or before?
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on April 06, 2010, 12:28:34 PM: Quote from: Mus51 on April 06, 2010, 03:21:16 AM
All i can see is lots of profiles, but i haven't seen any of the skins in game so far. Anyone started on these yet? If not i might aswell give it a go.

EDIT: i understand mensa is starting with 'F.2B D-7939, No.20 Squadron "TORONTO"?
This picture is a Dutch plane :D Just don't know enough about the the Dutch & what they did during WWI to know if this is a post war plane or flew with the Dutch during WWI?

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan5-9.jpg)

(http://i1002.photobucket.com/albums/af142/barneybolac/Scan6-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Mus51 on April 06, 2010, 12:52:52 PM: EDIT: The Dutch where neutral in WW1, they supplied germany with airplanes and ammunition but thats pretty much it.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: lyric1 on April 06, 2010, 05:29:21 PM: Quote from: Mus51 on April 06, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
EDIT: The Dutch where neutral in WW1, they supplied germany with airplanes and ammunition but thats pretty much it.
There you go kiddies a lesson for today. :aok Always find out new stuff all the time in AHII.
Title: Re: Bristol F2. Skins.
Post by: Larry on April 09, 2010, 03:50:22 PM: Quote from: lyric1 on April 05, 2010, 04:07:06 PM
You have stopped skinning?

I haven't stopped, but I haven't made one in a very long time.