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Title: Albatros D.Va
Post by: perdue3 on March 21, 2010, 09:11:27 PM
Lots of people asking for Spad and nieuport, how about the Albatros. The most popular German ride of the war.



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Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: BrownBaron on March 21, 2010, 09:19:46 PM
(http://www.airminded.net/albdv/mvr_alb.jpg)
Manfred Von Richtofen's Albatros D.V

-Single seat fighter
-Length (nose to tail):24" 1'
-Wingspan:29" 8'
-Height: 8" 10'
-Loaded weight: 2,066 lb
-Powerplant: 1× Mercedes D.IIIau 6-cylinder water-cooled inline engine (180hp)
-Max Speed: 116mph at SL
-Endurance- ~2 hours
-Armament- 2 × 7.92 mm LMG 08/15 machine guns
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: MachFly on March 21, 2010, 09:27:25 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: BrownBaron on March 21, 2010, 09:32:58 PM
"so obsolete and so ridiculously inferior to the English that one can't do anything with this aircraft." -Von Richtofen on the Albatros D.V
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: MachFly on March 21, 2010, 10:05:06 PM
"so obsolete and so ridiculously inferior to the English that one can't do anything with this aircraft." -Von Richtofen on the Albatros D.V

Really??
Correct me if I'm wrong but last time I checked he got most of his kills in one.
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: BrownBaron on March 21, 2010, 10:09:04 PM
Hm...I always thought he preferred his trusty Dr.1...he died in one, you know...
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Scherf on March 21, 2010, 10:10:32 PM
Must have Albatross.

It was made of wood, you know.
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: MachFly on March 21, 2010, 10:19:59 PM
Hm...I always thought he preferred his trusty Dr.1...

He probably did it was newer & more advanced fighter but I think he already had like 60 kills before he got the Dr.1
That's just what I remember from a while ago so don't quote me
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: BrownBaron on March 21, 2010, 10:23:10 PM
It was made of wood, you know.

Yes, sir, i knew that, i was simply using this point to show how much the deceased enjoyed his Dr.1.
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: MachFly on March 21, 2010, 10:24:12 PM
This is what wikipedia says:

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On 23 November 1916, Richthofen downed his most famous adversary, British ace Major Lanoe Hawker VC, described by Richthofen himself as "the British Boelcke." The victory came while Richthofen was flying an Albatros D.II and Hawker was flying a D.H.2. After this combat, he was convinced he needed a fighter aircraft with more agility, even at a loss of speed. He switched to the Albatros D.III in January 1917, scoring two victories before suffering a crack in the spar of the aircraft's lower wing. Richthofen reverted to the Albatros D.II for the next five weeks. He scored a victory in the D.II on 9 March, but since his D.III was grounded for the rest of the month, Richthofen switched to a Halberstadt D.II.

He returned to his Albatros D.III on 2 April 1917 and scored his 22 victories in it before switching to the Albatros D.V in late June. Following his return from convalescence in October, Richthofen was flying the celebrated Fokker Dr.I triplane, the distinctive three-winged aircraft with which he is most commonly associated, although he probably did not use the type exclusively until after it was reissued with strengthened wings in November. Despite the popular link between Richthofen and the Fokker Dr. I, only 20 of his 80 kills were made in this now-famous triplane. It was his Albatros D.III that was first painted bright red and in which he first earned his name and reputation.
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: BrownBaron on March 21, 2010, 10:25:59 PM
This is what wikipedia says:


I didn't doubt that, just thought the Dr came before the Albatros, excuse my ignorance :o
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: MachFly on March 21, 2010, 10:29:23 PM
I didn't doubt that, just thought the Dr came before the Albatros, excuse my ignorance :o

np

This discussion made me start a searching for all Richtofen's kills. Will post it when I find it.
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Boxboy on March 21, 2010, 10:33:44 PM
Further study of the "Red Baron" will tell you that he disliked the DR1 because it was "unstable and subject to break up in a dive".  If it was Brown or an infantryman that killed him is still subject to speculation but at the time Brown was credited with the kill and he was flying the more stable SE5a.

I too would love to see both the DVa and the SE5a added to the WWI plane list.
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Scherf on March 22, 2010, 12:01:03 AM
Surely both Brown and May were in Camels?
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Boxboy on March 22, 2010, 02:45:41 AM
Surely both Brown and May were in Camels?

I don't think so but I will have to check now LOL, hmm wiki says they were camels I guess my old memory is failing me I stand corrected :salute
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Scherf on March 22, 2010, 06:11:08 AM
No worries.

Now, where did I put my bowl of oatmeal ... ? Keeps me reg'lar, y'unnerstan'

 :old:
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Ghosth on March 22, 2010, 06:48:19 AM
Absolutely.

I do think that new planes for WWI should be released in balanced pairs of planes that flew against each other.

And I do think that for some time HTC's main focus is going to be working out the bugs in the new damage modeling, then updating all the WWII planes to the same standard. Considering how many planes there are, thats a huge job.


Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: perdue3 on March 22, 2010, 02:47:55 PM
Correction:

Brown wa NOT in SE5a. He was in F1 Camel.

Richthofen preferred the Alby until he got he DR I but, after he flew the DR I, he could not return to the Alby because it was ABSOLUTELY obselete at the time. He test flew the first D7 and could not wait to get it. Unfortunately he died before JG1 got the new D7. I have his autobiography for reference.

He had 61 kills in an Alby, D II, III and Va

perdweeb
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Shifty on March 22, 2010, 06:26:35 PM
Hm...I always thought he preferred his trusty Dr.1...he died in one, you know...

Maybe he should have been in an Albatros.

(http://www.davidcollinsonline.com/_images/_projects/albators_dv/Albatros_DV-17-Jun-2009-04.jpg)
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: Boxboy on March 22, 2010, 07:40:04 PM
Correction:

Brown wa NOT in SE5a. He was in F1 Camel.

Richthofen preferred the Alby until he got he DR I but, after he flew the DR I, he could not return to the Alby because it was ABSOLUTELY obselete at the time. He test flew the first D7 and could not wait to get it. Unfortunately he died before JG1 got the new D7. I have his autobiography for reference.

He had 61 kills in an Alby, D II, III and Va

perdweeb
Didn't bother to read my second post where I admitted the mistake????
Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: perdue3 on March 23, 2010, 10:18:27 PM
Apparently not Boxboy i apologize  :salute

His kill sheet is in the back of his autobiography. A recommend this book to anyonw hwo enjoys World War I aviation.

You will not want to put it down. his descriptions of the furballs are splendid and cold, hungry for a kill feeling that ran through his veins in the midst of the battle. One of the most honorable, arrogant, disobeying, amazing human beings that have ever lived. May his legend live on. notice my quote at the bottom. here's another one:

"It is a pity of my splendid collection of trophies there is not a single Russian." - Manfred von Richthofen



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Title: Re: Albatros D.Va
Post by: perdue3 on March 23, 2010, 10:22:35 PM
Sorry for the butchered English. It's getting late.      :sleepyashell


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