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Title: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Eric122 on March 22, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
the german verson of the willys it would be awsome to have. mabe with a machine gun on it and it can carry tr
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Rino on March 22, 2010, 08:42:07 PM
     Guess the M3 and Hanomag aren't doing it for ya?
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Eric122 on March 22, 2010, 08:43:18 PM
     Guess the M3 and Hanomag aren't doing it for ya?


Nope.  :aok 
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Rino on March 22, 2010, 10:52:08 PM
Nope.  :aok 

     Hmmm, 4 seats and a 7.92mm mg...sounds like a real war winner.  It isn't even 4 wheel drive.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Denholm on March 22, 2010, 10:53:48 PM
...It isn't even 4 wheel drive.
Neither was the M3.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Rino on March 23, 2010, 09:57:42 AM
Neither was the M3.

     Since when do halftracks require 4 wheel drive? 
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: jimson on March 23, 2010, 10:58:03 AM
The kuebelwagen was basically the German jeep.

For frame of reference, anyone remember the VW "Thing" sold in America in the 70's?

That's pretty much what it looked like.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 23, 2010, 11:00:40 AM
     Since when do halftracks require 4 wheel drive? 
:rofl :rofl :rofl since denholm said so!
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: gyrene81 on March 23, 2010, 11:59:28 AM
The kuebelwagen was basically the German jeep.

For frame of reference, anyone remember the VW "Thing" sold in America in the 70's?

That's pretty much what it looked like.
A lot of us older geeks know that but...Eric has to start posting more information than his usual "blah blah, we need blah blah blah" and that's it. There is no real justification for a Kubelwagen other than "it would be awesome to have"...(like the B-29)...and I for one am not feeding him the data or the justifications.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: LLogann on March 23, 2010, 12:02:33 PM
You're right!!!  The B29 would be awesome!   :lol

"it would be awesome to have"...(like the B-29)...
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Denholm on March 23, 2010, 01:02:57 PM
     Since when do halftracks require 4 wheel drive? 
You asked Eric if the M3 wasn't getting the job done for him. Afterward you mentioned the Kubelwagen doesn't even have 4-wheel drive.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Eric122 on March 23, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
A lot of us older geeks know that but...Eric has to start posting more information than his usual "blah blah, we need blah blah blah" and that's it. There is no real justification for a Kubelwagen other than "it would be awesome to have"...(like the B-29)...and I for one am not feeding him the data or the justifications.


I usually have to look through my books for right information and data. And there is no german Jeep in the game yet so the Kuebelwagen would fit the space. I saw one once with 2 mg42 on it.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: gyrene81 on March 23, 2010, 03:23:30 PM
I saw one once with 2 mg42 on it.
Operative word being once. Of all your "we need..." posts few if any have any pertinent data in them and I'm not sure if you realize this or not but if HTC cannot get their hands on the technical data (the nuts and bolts stuff), you're wasting keystrokes with all these wishes.

Just to make it easier for yourself and avoid some of the flames...try putting down the picture books and 5th grade revised history stuff and follow the examples of others wish list items. You need to find reliable data that can be easily found and a photo to show what you are wanting to put in for consideration...then figure sometime in the next 5 or 10 years HTC may get around to it if it makes sense to include it.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: stodd on March 23, 2010, 03:24:06 PM
-1.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Eric122 on March 23, 2010, 04:25:06 PM
more info on the kuebelwagen



The Volkswagen ("People's Car") was the product of Porsche and Mercedes-Benz engineering and design created in 1933 at Adolph Hitler's request, with the first production units - the Type 62 - appearing in 1936 - and based on Porsche’s VW Beetle design. When the type was selected to fill the ranks of the German military, several requested changes were implemented to produce the Type 82. By war's end, some 50,000 to 55,000 examples of the Volkswagen "Kubel" (meaning "bucket") or Kubelwagen (meaning "bucket automobile") would be produced - the name derived from the bucket-type appearance of the seats. Full production would begin in 1940.

The Volkswagen Kubel proved reliable, robust and well-liked by all banners that it operated under and served in the respect that the American Jeep would for the Allies. The Kubel was a light-weight and inexpensive production car with the capability to operate effectively on road and off road. Power for pre-1943 vehicles was served from a Volkswagen 4-cylinder engine producing some 24 horsepower and 998cc while 1943 models and on were served with a 25 horsepower engine delivering 1,131cc. The operational components of the Kubel design proved efficient and easy to maintain under the harshest of battlefield conditions and the air-cooled engine meant that it could operate well in colder temperatures when compared to a liquid-cooled derivative.

Crew protection was nothing more than a body made of sheet metal. The covering consisted of a convertible top covered with canvas with screens covering the windowless doors. Four doors served as the exit/entry methods for the driver and up to three passengers.

The Kubel appeared in a variety of types including the Type 92 which featured an enclosed body design. A tropical version known as the "Tropenfest" was also delivered when it was found that the Kubel in its basic form failed to impress in hot climates. These were fitted with special tires to navigate the deep sands of North Africa.

Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: ACE on March 23, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
-1
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: jimson on March 23, 2010, 08:43:42 PM
It's probably not something a lot of resources should be diverted to, but for scenarios and such it would be cool to have some country appropriate vehicles and troop transports and such, rather than have to sub the jeep and C-47 for every country.

So OK, +1, but only after a lot more important stuff is done.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: curry1 on March 23, 2010, 11:11:39 PM
You're right!!!  The B29 would be awesome!   :lol

agreed
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: BaldEagl on March 23, 2010, 11:44:13 PM
It's probably not something a lot of resources should be diverted to, but for scenarios and such it would be cool to have some country appropriate vehicles and troop transports and such, rather than have to sub the jeep and C-47 for every country.

So OK, +1, but only after a lot more important stuff is done.

What's wrong with the SKD?
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: JimmyC on March 24, 2010, 03:48:53 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/100_0533.jpg)

beer cooler in back
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Eric122 on March 24, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/100_0533.jpg)

beer cooler in back

thats definently not a kuebelwagen
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 24, 2010, 08:09:26 PM
thats definently not a kuebelwagen
a jokes a joke eric
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: phatzo on March 24, 2010, 08:47:32 PM
thats definently not a kuebelwagen
its not all that different though.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Eric122 on March 24, 2010, 08:51:04 PM
its not all that different though.

Yeah it is its more like a voltswagon than a kuebelwagen
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Lusche on March 24, 2010, 08:53:04 PM
Yeah it is its more like a voltswagon than a kuebelwagen


Voltswagon? Is that an electric car? How many volts does it have?  :headscratch:
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: phatzo on March 24, 2010, 11:46:07 PM
Yeah it is its more like a voltswagon than a kuebelwagen
might want to check and see the relationship between the two. The Volkswagen and Kuebelwagon that is.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Scherf on March 24, 2010, 11:58:33 PM
Istanbul IS Constantinople!
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 25, 2010, 12:00:23 AM
Istanbul IS Constantinople!
But i thought Byzantium? :headscratch: :banana:
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: LLogann on March 25, 2010, 12:53:08 AM
Nope.......  The man is correct.  Constantine, the night before his army sacked Istanbul, saw the Labarum in the sky.......  He converted his army to Catholicism and the next morning they won a victory handily.  Istanbul became Constantinople.  

But i thought Byzantium? :headscratch: :banana:

But I'm still trying to figure out what this all has to do with socioeconomic instability in China.....  :headscratch:















I know, I know!!!!   :aok

might want to check and see the relationship between the two.

Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 25, 2010, 01:00:37 AM
Nope.......  The man is correct.  Constantine, the night before his army sacked Istanbul, saw the Labarum in the sky.......  He converted his army to Catholicism and the next morning they won a victory handily.  Istanbul became Constantinople.  

But I'm still trying to figure out what this all has to do with socioeconomic instability in China.....  :headscratch:















I know, I know!!!!   :aok


yes but constantinople became byzantium with the formation of the Byzantine Empire. Then after the Empire fell it was rererenamed Istanbul
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: LLogann on March 25, 2010, 01:48:33 AM
CHIT........

You know what, you're right in name, but not in time frame...... The Greeks were there first before Constantine............ Βυζάντιον or Byzantion.... Which is also a very nice city in Seattle nowadayz.............

In the 20th Cent it became Istanbul.  Dam Turks......  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: JimmyC on March 25, 2010, 05:06:19 AM
dam those pesky ottermen
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/lookingotter.jpg) (http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/?action=view&current=lookingotter.jpg)
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 25, 2010, 05:09:22 AM
CHIT........

You know what, you're right in name, but not in time frame...... The Greeks were there first before Constantine............ Βυζάντιον or Byzantion.... Which is also a very nice city in Seattle nowadayz.............

In the 20th Cent it became Istanbul.  Dam Turks......  :rolleyes:
ahh haha yes it all came back to me now! Byzantium to Constantinople to Byzantium to Istanbul! I remember now
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: gyrene81 on March 25, 2010, 09:58:32 AM
LMFAO...ladies and gentlemen this thread has been hijacked, please remain calm and in your seats...we will return to our regular scheduled programming soon.  :rofl



ahh haha yes it all came back to me now! Byzantium to Constantinople to Byzantium to Istanbul! I remember now
You both have it wrong...Constantine was the demon hunter who survived a suicide attempt and was destined for hell unless he could redeem himself.

Byzantium was an old Greek (?) colony I believe...before Constantine took it over and turned it into the capital of the Eastern Roman empire (aka Byzantine empire)...it wasn't known as the Byzantine empire until modern times.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 25, 2010, 11:08:06 AM
LMFAO...ladies and gentlemen this thread has been hijacked, please remain calm and in your seats...we will return to our regular scheduled programming soon.  :rofl


You both have it wrong...Constantine was the demon hunter who survived a suicide attempt and was destined for hell unless he could redeem himself.

Byzantium was an old Greek (?) colony I believe...before Constantine took it over and turned it into the capital of the Eastern Roman empire (aka Byzantine empire)...it wasn't known as the Byzantine empire until modern times.
the Eastern Roman Empire was when the Empire was split in order to well...keep order. When the Western Roman Empire fell with the sacking of Rome the Eastern section became an independant Empire and was renamed the Byzantine Empire. The Byzantine Empire slowly declined far into the 2nd A.D. melennium
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: JimmyC on March 25, 2010, 11:33:02 AM
what about the ottomans?
The Byzantine–Ottoman Wars were a series of decisive conflicts between the Ottoman Turks and the Byzantine Greeks that led to the final destruction of the Byzantine Empire and the rise of the Ottoman Empire.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 25, 2010, 12:01:04 PM
what about the ottomans?
The Byzantine–Ottoman Wars were a series of decisive conflicts between the Ottoman Turks and the Byzantine Greeks that led to the final destruction of the Byzantine Empire and the rise of the Ottoman Empire.
The Ottomans are the reason its called Istanbul today. When the Byzantines were destroyed the Ottomans took over and renamed it...again
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Tarstar on March 25, 2010, 12:02:24 PM
-1
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: bravoa8 on March 25, 2010, 01:11:27 PM
I like history alot but... I thought this was the wishlist forum? Btw +1 for the kubelwagon.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: Krusty on March 25, 2010, 01:46:47 PM
Istanbul was Constantinople.
Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.
Been a long time gone since Constantinople.
Why did Constantinople get the works?

That's nobody's business but the Turks!
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: LLogann on March 25, 2010, 01:49:40 PM
I thought we were wishing for TURKey's INstead of new Greek sheep?   :headscratch:

I like history alot but... I thought this was the wishlist forum? Btw +1 for the kubelwagon.
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 25, 2010, 03:32:33 PM
 :rofl i gotta say im impressed this thread has gone on for this long with out a lock so IN. :rofl
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: JimmyC on March 25, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
longlive the ottermen
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/lookingotter.jpg)

they INvented constipation



seafood diet i think
Title: Re: The kuebelwagen
Post by: 321BAR on March 26, 2010, 09:05:43 AM
longlive the ottermen
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/lookingotter.jpg)

they INvented constipation



seafood diet i think

:rofl