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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: TwinEng on March 25, 2010, 03:10:00 AM
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Man, bad guys in Afghanistan sure must hate it when an AC-130U is overhead. Here is a close-up photo of its main gun:
The General Dynamics GAU-12/U Equalizer.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2686/4461339283_fe8c8b98a6_o.jpg)
This is a five barrel rotary canon, which fires 65 25mm High Explosive Incendiary Rounds per Second!!
I wonder what folks on the ground do when this gun opens up on them???
It must suck to be an enemy of the USA.
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I would've thought the 105mm howitzer would make a louder bang?
Tronsky
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Yep I thought the 105 was the main gun and the rotaries were secondary along with the 40mm.
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I would've thought the 105mm howitzer would make a louder bang?
Tronsky
Yep I thought the 105 was the main gun and the rotaries were secondary along with the 40mm.
No, I have to disagree with both of you. I would argue that the Equalizer is the most important of the 3 guns mounted on the AC-130U.
Just compare the rate of fire of these weapons. That is the most crucial issue in my opinion.
25mm GAU-12/U Equalizer: 65 High Explosive Incendiary Rounds per Second
40 mm L/60 Bofors gun: 2 High Explosive Fragmentation Rounds per Second
105mm M102 Howitzer: 10 High Explosive Fragmentation Rounds per MINUTE.
Of course, the gunship can fire all three together at the same time, giving sort of a cumulative effect by combing the firepower of all 3 guns.
Tell me, if you were a Taliban running around on the ground, and an AC-130U was overhead, and it could only fire ONE of its guns at you, would you want it to be the 25mm GAU-12/U Equalizer ???
Here is another photo from another AC-130U Gunship, showing the 105m Howitzer in the foreground, and the 40mm L/60 Bofors in the background behind it.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4462865466_d66fdbc885_o.jpg)
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I'm sorry to say this but there isn't a main gun on an AC130U. The 105, 40, and 25mm are all equal in role...
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Go on YouTube and see that gun in action in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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I'm sorry to say this but there isn't a main gun on an AC130U. The 105, 40, and 25mm are all equal in role...
You may have a point here, I must concede.
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I don't care which gun is MAIN. I don't want to be on the receiving end of any of them.
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I don't care which gun is MAIN. I don't want to be on the receiving end of any of them.
:rofl QFT
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My goodness, I did not realize what an absolute killing machine this plane is.
Checkout this amazing combat video footage from the war:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gMMQTt5-c
I guess that I must stand corrected about the 105mm I did not realize how huge its fragmentation explosions were.
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The 105 is a howitzer and the shell contains an entire case of whoop and hollar. Lots of bang on the receiving end. I wonder if they have rounds with proximity fuses for the AC130 version. That would be nasty to have the thing go off at 50' altitude over troops even in foxholes.
Fricking word filter.... :huh
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I guess that I must stand corrected about the 105mm I did not realize how huge its fragmentation explosions were.
Didn't want to point that out to you when you started this thread...that 105 fires fast for an artillery piece and it is devastating when it hits...I've seen target vehicles go poof when hit with one...not saying the 25mm gatling gun isn't a seriously awe inspiring thing to witness...but the 105 can be a monster.
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Didn't want to point that out to you when you started this thread...that 105 fires fast for an artillery piece and it is devastating when it hits...I've seen target vehicles go poof when hit with one...not saying the 25mm gatling gun isn't a seriously awe inspiring thing to witness...but the 105 can be a monster.
I now realize that, after watching that video. Those 105mm explosions look absolutely devastating.
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There's a guy in AH, in the 327th Steel Talons, who has a couple of decades of AC130 service, his call sign is Piles.
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I wonder what folks on the ground do when this gun opens up on them???
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Standard procedure is to fling body parts around and bleed a lot.
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Standard procedure is to fling body parts around and bleed a lot.
Standard Taliban OP: When uncertain, when in doubt...run in circles, scream and shout :D
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I wonder what folks on the ground do when this gun opens up on them???
I think mostly they die. Either screaming from frag hits or quickly as they get turned into human confetti from a direct hit.
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Act dead, dive in water, or run inside a holy place... use politics to protect you, not wave and say hi to the camera...
What am i saying?! :rolleyes:
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My goodness, I did not realize what an absolute killing machine this plane is.
Checkout this amazing combat video footage from the war:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gMMQTt5-c
I guess that I must stand corrected about the 105mm I did not realize how huge its fragmentation explosions were.
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awsome video
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I think you can crueler using the 40mm than the 25. Watched one AC-130 "chase" an insurgent down a road
with about 3 rounds, then when it looked like he was just about to reach cover..KaBlaam! Game over.
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http://www.liveleak.com/user/IRAQI_TRANSLATOR_USMC
Tons of Iraq & Afghan gun cams (Apache's, Fighters, AC's) & more
-AB
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I think mostly they die. Either screaming from frag hits or quickly as they get turned into human confetti from a direct hit.
QFT+1 and that is exactly what a friend of mine who has flown on multiple deployments and the pilot flying those birds out of Hulbert Field has said. A couple of years ago just as his last combat deployment he took us on a tour of the squadron building down there. I have some photos of our two boys putting on the helmets in the equipment check area. I just have to find them.
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My goodness, I did not realize what an absolute killing machine this plane is.
Checkout this amazing combat video footage from the war:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-gMMQTt5-c
I guess that I must stand corrected about the 105mm I did not realize how huge its fragmentation explosions were.
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:rofl :rofl at the end of the film! listen to what the guy says... "I know there's two guys i saw them flying apart..." "i saw him die earlier... it was a 40 round" The tone of voice is killing me!!!
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Act dead, dive in water, or run inside a holy place... use politics to protect you, not wave and say hi to the camera...
What am i saying?! :rolleyes:
There was only one smart Tailban in that entire video.
He ran back into the Mosque!!
I think that all the rest probably died.
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http://www.liveleak.com/user/IRAQI_TRANSLATOR_USMC
Tons of Iraq & Afghan gun cams (Apache's, Fighters, AC's) & more
-AB
Awesome video :rock :aok
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Folks... These flicks are not from the video game playbacks.
Some real people out there in the internet wonderland could be watching how their husbands, sons, brothers or even wifes & babies (inside of the buildings) are mutilated and/or dieing.
What you would feel in such situation?
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I guess I would've wished they'd have zigged instead of zagged.
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Folks... These flicks are not from the video game playbacks.
Some real people out there in the internet wonderland could be watching how their husbands, sons, brothers or even wifes & babies (inside of the buildings) are mutilated and/or dieing.
What you would feel in such situation?
Perhaps they should have thought about it before they decided to fight. Maybe they were thinking about how they danced over the bodies of dead Americans that they mutilated then dragged around. It could be that they thought about the last person they beheaded or the bomb they built that detonated in the market place where there were families and kids.
Speculate all you want over what they or their families think or just go over and talk to them. War isn't nice and you just might want to go see what those nice folks post on al jazera for their idea of videos.
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Some of 'them' cuts the heads off and all of 'them' are guilty: Lets kill 'them' all?
Some of 'them' justified the war, because of the all famous WMD's.
I'm just worried about how the door is gonna swing in long run.
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Some of 'them' cuts the heads off and all of 'them' are guilty: Lets kill 'them' all?
Some of 'them' justified the war, because of the all famous WMD's.
I'm just worried about how the door is gonna swing in long run.
I know which side I'll be rooting for, why don't you pick one?
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I know which side I'll be rooting for, why don't you pick one?
Please, define the term 'side' first.
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See where this thread now headed
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I the video I watched targets were verified and no action was taken untill the intel was recieved, even to the point of avoiding damaging a mosque even though it was surrounded by enemy.
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You know, that building did not look like any typical Mosque to me. It looks like an ordinary warehouse. But it could have been used as one. It is obvious from the video that the US soldiers are actually unsure, but they decide to error on the side of caution, treating it as a Mosque.
In sharp contrast, both Sunni and Shia extremists have no problem at all in planting bombs at the Mosques of the other sect.
So in reality, the armed forces of the USA actually show far more respect to Muslims and to their Mosques than their own fellow Muslims do.
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Check back here in about (a few) minutes...I am uploading a full length, high resolution dual channel audio version of that film to my remote server...
I will leave it up for a few days...
Download and save it to your drive...
This is the original version of that film when it was leaked...
I am trying to retain the quality while decreasing size and preserving the dual audio channel...
Patience...
:salute
Oneway
Format mpeg and I need to convert it...
Link will be here in just a bit...
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Well.
As far as I can see, anyone on the recieving end of the C-130's firepower is on a oneway trip to hell. God Bless American engineering.
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That is amazing that the plane has a crew of 13. That must easily be the most of any US warplane, no??
I wonder what all of their assignments are? After all, there are only 3 weapons to service.
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Thats a big gun lol.
-Spektor
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I don't care which gun is MAIN. I don't want to be on the receiving end of any of them.
Exactamundo. I don't want to be getting shot at by anything. Nice pic though.
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Please, define the term 'side' first.
If you cannot see the difference, then you are hopeless and not worth my time.
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We could always go the route of actor Matthew Modine, and just sit down next to Osama Bin Laden and ask him why he is so angry with us. Does Matthew's suggestion not make sense to everyone?
Here is a news article about his idea, with a link to a video of him saying this:
http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/bighollywood/2010/03/30/matthew-modine-lets-ask-bin-laden-why-hes-so-angry-with-us/
I wonder if Modine really got the chance to stit down with Osama, how Osama would treat him?
And here I had thought Modine was so good in the WWII movie "The Memphis Belle".
Here is part of what he said:
“Imagine if somebody were to really sit down with Osama Bin Ladin and say, ‘listen man,what is it that you’re so angry at me about that you’re willing to have people strap bombs to themselves, or get inside of airplanes and fly them into buildings.’ That would be the miracle if we can get, sit down and talk to our enemies and find a way for them to hear us.” – Matthew Modine
So the solution to this war is simple. Just sit down with Osama, and we can then work everything out.
Here is a photo of Osama waiting for Modine to come sit down with him:
(http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/03/osama_bin_laden.gif)
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If you cannot see the difference, then you are hopeless and not worth my time.
It is possible, we just little bit miss-understood each others here.
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AC-130 crews saved my life twice. Nothin' but love for them fellas. :salute
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That is amazing that the plane has a crew of 13. That must easily be the most of any US warplane, no??
I wonder what all of their assignments are? After all, there are only 3 weapons to service.
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5 Officers
1. Pilot
2. Copilot
3. Navigator
4. Fire Control Officer
5. Electronics Warfare Officer
8 Enlisted
1. Flight Engineer
2. TV Operator
3. Infrared Detection Set Operator
4. Load Master
5-8. Gunners
5 Officers + 8 Enlisted = 13 crew over all
Courtesy of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC130 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC130)
-Penguin
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Those are big guns. The 40 and the 105 are loaded by hand. The 40 with clips and the 105 single rounds. None of them are light and they have to be moved from the ammo storage to the guns. Empties have to be policed up and out of the way so that the targets can be serviced.