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Title: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Karnak on March 29, 2010, 03:58:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPLPRv1mp84&feature=related
The top quote on this Spitfire vs Buchon video as I post this actually made me shudder.  It is as follows:

Quote
Originally posted by WingsofGold4045 on YouTube:
Heck no the Spitfire was not better than Mustang(Kiereemon).Perhaps when it first came out in 1941,but later models, especially P-51D model,was by far the best prop plane fighter,cause it was only plane that could somewhat keep up with ME-262 (first jet plane).Anyway,Spitfire was same category as ME109.But the ME109 was slightly faster & had better guns, while Spitfire was more agile(turn quicker)& cheaper to produce (most of it made of wood, cause metal was used for bombers &  hurricanes)

The ignorance masquerading as knowledge, it burns.....
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Angus on March 29, 2010, 04:06:31 AM
OUCH!
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Karnak on March 29, 2010, 04:12:47 AM
Some poor kid is going to read that and, based on the authoritative tone, believe it to be accurate information.  The nature of people is to not look for more information on something they have slight interest in when they think they already know the answer.  :(

I mean, gods, he managed to actually get every single point wrong while sounding like he knew exactly what he was talking about.

People must learn that it is good to be able to answer "I don't know" to a question and then learn.  This crap about being embarrassed not to know or having to posture and pretend to know things you don't is very bad.  "I don't know" is a very honorable answer to a question.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Lusche on March 29, 2010, 04:45:38 AM
Youtube comments are often FAR more entertaining than the vids they are accompanying. It's amazing how off the off-topic "discussions" can get. And of course, you find the worst stuff when it comes to any kind of history.
That's similar to CH 200 here. Everytime I read "because Hitler..." I know some extremely stupid stuff is coming up  :lol
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Skuzzy on March 29, 2010, 06:38:31 AM
It is the nature of the Internet Karnak.  How many times a day does some nutjob site get quoted here as being authoritative?  Seems to be if someone finds something that confirms someones position, they use it as an authority.  Facts are slowly becoming irrelevant in favor of the nutjob.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Slash27 on March 29, 2010, 08:07:06 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPLPRv1mp84&feature=related
The top quote on this Spitfire vs Buchon video as I post this actually made me shudder.  It is as follows:

The ignorance masquerading as knowledge, it burns.....
Youtube comments are a new relm of worthless.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: RichardDarkwood on March 29, 2010, 08:10:39 AM
  How many times a day does some nutjob site get quoted here as being authoritative? 


But how do you know what is right and what isn't right?





Todd
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: ozrocker on March 29, 2010, 08:11:37 AM
Almost as bad as Wilkipedia. Where anyone can post a "meaning" and they will list it, factual or not.
                                                      <S> Oz
                                                                        
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Fulmar on March 29, 2010, 08:34:45 AM
(http://blogoscoped.com/files/youtube-comments-audio-preview.png)
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: gyrene81 on March 29, 2010, 09:34:02 AM
But how do you know what is right and what isn't right?

Todd
It's a crap shoot but once you start researching you learn to distinguish what is legit and what isn't. There is a lot of stuff out that looks very legit but it's not...just have to find multiple sources that say the same thing and aren't copies of each other.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Reschke on March 29, 2010, 09:50:23 AM
(http://blogoscoped.com/files/youtube-comments-audio-preview.png)

HAHAHAHAHA!

Too Funny!
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: eagl on March 29, 2010, 10:06:23 AM
It is the nature of the Internet Karnak.  How many times a day does some nutjob site get quoted here as being authoritative?  Seems to be if someone finds something that confirms someones position, they use it as an authority.  Facts are slowly becoming irrelevant in favor of the nutjob.

And you're an expert I suppose?  Where's your diploma in nutbag recognition and identification of fact transmorgification?  Sheesh, even the cynics are "experts" :)
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Skuzzy on March 29, 2010, 10:30:04 AM
And you're an expert I suppose?  Where's your diploma in nutbag recognition and identification of fact transmorgification?  Sheesh, even the cynics are "experts" :)


 :rofl  Nice one eagl.  Could not have done better myself. <S>

And folks, there ya have it.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: bcadoo on March 29, 2010, 12:24:19 PM
It is the nature of the Internet Karnak.  How many times a day does some nutjob site get quoted here as being authoritative?  Seems to be if someone finds something that confirms someones position, they use it as an authority.  Facts are slowly becoming irrelevant in favor of the nutjob.

Its not just on the Internet anymore....(in case you hadn't noticed...)
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: mbailey on March 29, 2010, 01:02:21 PM
  Facts are slowly becoming irrelevant in favor of the nutjob.


LMAO thats funny stuff right there!! :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Grayeagle on March 29, 2010, 10:04:01 PM
you mean .. WW2 was made of wood?

-wide eyed-
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Nwbie on March 30, 2010, 12:17:22 PM
Oh boy.... a new sig slogan finally :)

Skuzzy - Facts are slowly becoming irrelevant in favor of the nutjob.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: SKJohn on March 30, 2010, 01:58:39 PM
you mean .. WW2 was made of wood?

-wide eyed-

. . .  and what else is made of wood? :D
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Karnak on March 30, 2010, 02:07:26 PM
. . .  and what else is made of wood? :D
Witches!!!
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 30, 2010, 02:42:00 PM
Its not just on the Internet anymore....(in case you hadn't noticed...)

It never was just the internet.  There are some interesting books out there.  Newspaper articles are "editorialized".  The internet just makes it all easier to disseminate and/or find.


wrongway
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Skuzzy on March 30, 2010, 02:50:58 PM
It never was just the internet.  There are some interesting books out there.  Newspaper articles are "editorialized".  The internet just makes it all easier to disseminate and/or find.


wrongway

No, but the Internet has brought to the forefront more numpties and nutjobs than a newpaper ever could.  Even television is losing out in its ability to put numpties and nutjobs in front of the viewer as compared to the Internet.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Grayeagle on March 31, 2010, 07:20:41 PM
Witches!!!

..and DUCKS!

(light bulb flickers breifly overhead, then burns out)

..soooo....

-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Dago on March 31, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
Funny, you guys have a dude on this board who acts like an authority on aviation and I have proven him wrong more than once, yet some still think he knows all about aviation.

On the other hand, we have eagl who is one sharp dude who knows his stuff regarding aviation and certainly has my respect. 
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Plawranc on March 31, 2010, 08:32:45 PM
Buchon 109's make me feel all fuzzy inside.  :D
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Karnak on April 01, 2010, 01:39:44 AM
Funny, you guys have a dude on this board who acts like an authority on aviation and I have proven him wrong more than once, yet some still think he knows all about aviation.

On the other hand, we have eagl who is one sharp dude who knows his stuff regarding aviation and certainly has my respect. 
Plenty of people have been wrong on this board, but at least here people can be corrected or at least the correct information can be provided for others with a reasonable chance it will be seen.  Try that on youtube.  In addition, getting things that wrong on this board is extremely rare and will immediately result in mocking from some of our less polite membership.

I don't know who in particular you are referring to, but if they are at all accepted here they aren't remotely on the level of the quote I posted.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 01, 2010, 11:20:12 AM
No, but the Internet has brought to the forefront more numpties and nutjobs than a newpaper ever could.  Even television is losing out in its ability to put numpties and nutjobs in front of the viewer as compared to the Internet.

That's what I said, kind of.  It's always been around.  It's just more around now.

Blogs as news.   :rolleyes:


wrongway
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Grayeagle on April 03, 2010, 05:08:19 AM
Funny, you guys have a dude on this board who acts like an authority on aviation and I have proven him wrong more than once, yet some still think he knows all about aviation.

Was he bitten by a scorpion?
-evil grin-

-GE aka Frank
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Dago on April 03, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
Was he bitten by a scorpion?
-evil grin-

-GE aka Frank

Nope, just the new guy bug, gets a few ratings and is an instant expert in all things aviation.
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Enker on April 03, 2010, 11:52:40 AM
Speaking of YouTube comments, have you seen the comments on the Moon Landing videos? :barf

Another XKCD, that appropriately describes the reality:
(http://i383.photobucket.com/albums/oo280/Enker_photo/youtube-1.png)
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: hlbly on April 03, 2010, 02:08:59 PM
Youtube comments are often FAR more entertaining than the vids they are accompanying. It's amazing how off the off-topic "discussions" can get. And of course, you find the worst stuff when it comes to any kind of history.
That's similar to CH 200 here. Everytime I read "because Hitler..." I know some extremely stupid stuff is coming up  :lol
You have no idea . My 16 yo niece told me the other day "Germany lost the war because Hitler wouldn't listen to his generals ". When I asked her where she heard that . She told me history class . I then explained a little about why he may not have listened to his generals . She then told me the only reason WWII happened was because Hitler was power mad  . I then explained a little about how it was really WWI continued , at least in Europe . Now here is when it gets ugly . In class the next day ,after bringing up a few points and asking questions . Her history teacher told her to " shut up and quit asking questions "  :O :O :O . Monday they discuss the criminality of the Atomic bombings of Japan .Me and my dad gave her a few things to think about in regards to that .  Along with a digital recorder to tape the teachers reaction . I find the whole thing scary and wonderful at the same time . Scary because a student was exposed to over simplifications and  bad data . The unreal order from a teacher to quit asking questions .Wonderful to see the light come on in a bright kids eyes when she began to use something I was taught in school , critical thinking .
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Karnak on April 04, 2010, 12:40:11 AM
My history classes in high school never got to WWII as we always ran out of time in the school year.

My history teachers also never told anybody to stop asking questions either.

The two might be related.   :P
Title: Re: The problem with watching aviation videos on youtube....
Post by: Motherland on April 04, 2010, 06:43:14 PM
You have no idea . My 16 yo niece told me the other day "Germany lost the war because Hitler wouldn't listen to his generals ". When I asked her where she heard that . She told me history class . I then explained a little about why he may not have listened to his generals .
What did you tell her?