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Title: M31-ARV
Post by: Dadsguns on March 30, 2010, 12:07:23 PM
Just a thought, gv supplies will not fix tracks nor engines, why not have a ARV to drag them back to base to land safely and will also give another vehicle on the ground to shoot at.

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_tankrecovery_t2.php

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:M31_Tank_Recovery_Vehicle

Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: waystin2 on March 30, 2010, 12:34:10 PM
I can envison the fun with this one!  I say yes!  +1
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on March 30, 2010, 01:04:35 PM
What other countries had a dedicated tank retriever? Gotta keep it balanced you know.  :D
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: Dadsguns on March 30, 2010, 01:31:45 PM
What other countries had a dedicated tank retriever? Gotta keep it balanced you know.  :D

Should not be a factor what country had a tank retriever or not, especially when you can up axis or allied gv's on the same side.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: AWwrgwy on March 30, 2010, 02:16:44 PM
What other countries had a dedicated tank retriever? Gotta keep it balanced you know.  :D

Britain:

(http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/all_images/weapons/Churchill-ARV.jpg)

(http://www.desertrat.brigades.btinternet.co.uk/Equipment/Armour/ChurchillARV.jpg)


Germany:

(http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/images/modelkits/ICM35341.jpg)

(http://forum.valka.cz/files/pic_021_surrey_bergepanther_and_sturmtiger_175.jpg)


Russian:

(http://t-34.hobby-site.com/new/_img/DDR_T-34T.jpg)

(http://www.2iemeguerre.com/blindes/images/t34depannageo.jpg)


wrongway
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on March 30, 2010, 02:40:58 PM
Germany had the bergetiger also
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: RedTeck on March 30, 2010, 04:26:30 PM
I like it.
Would there be any perk implications for successfully recovering someone? Not that it matters to me, but it would definitely get more people in the helping mood.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: BigKev03 on March 30, 2010, 04:45:25 PM
Good as far as new GV but what is the point in recovering GV's when all you have to do now is drop supplies off and the GV is full repaired.  Like a previous post only thing that would make it used is a perk reward for recovery.   Just don't see it worth all the development time when supplies do exact same thing now minus the time taken to recover a vehicle.


BigKev
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: Eric122 on March 30, 2010, 04:47:31 PM
+1
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: The Grinch on March 31, 2010, 06:38:42 AM
Just a thought, gv supplies will not fix tracks nor engines, why not have a ARV to drag them back to base to land safely and will also give another vehicle on the ground to shoot at.

http://www.olive-drab.com/idphoto/id_photos_tankrecovery_t2.php

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:M31_Tank_Recovery_Vehicle


1+  :salute
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: ACE on March 31, 2010, 07:08:30 AM
+1



-Spektor
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: RedTeck on March 31, 2010, 03:31:39 PM
Good as far as new GV but what is the point in recovering GV's when all you have to do now is drop supplies off and the GV is full repaired.  Like a previous post only thing that would make it used is a perk reward for recovery.   Just don't see it worth all the development time when supplies do exact same thing now minus the time taken to recover a vehicle.


BigKev

You must not have been GV'n since the updates. GV supplies only resupply ammo now. Damaged turrets, treads, and engines are non-repairable.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on March 31, 2010, 03:49:39 PM
How would this work...say Waystin has racked up about 10 kills in his Tiger, and Wrongway tracks him with a Panzer but before he can finish him off, RedTeck kills Wrongway. Now Wastin is tracked and can't move...call goes out for a tank retriever...so Ace grabs one and get's popped a few times before he hooks up to Waystin's Tiger and drags him back to the hangar...both guys tower out...should there be any reward for Ace for the deed?
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: RedTeck on March 31, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
I say make it to where people will want to grab and ARV as cheap perk points. Maybe an assist for every kill a recovered tank lands and 1/4 of the recovered tanks perks. Get people fighting over who is going to get to the guy with 100 spawn camp kills first.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: BigKev03 on March 31, 2010, 11:02:46 PM
You must not have been GV'n since the updates. GV supplies only resupply ammo now. Damaged turrets, treads, and engines are non-repairable.

No I have not GV'd since the update.  If this is correct then it is just like a damaged plane you land and can't reapair on the rearm pad.  So until we get a way to repair planes I think it would be useless or better yet an unfair advantage to Gv's since planes couldnt be repaied.  don't get me wrong I like nwe features but I just dont see it as feasable than offering a new target to the GV'ers since most vehicle recovery took place after the battle was faught.

BigKev
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: jay on April 01, 2010, 01:25:02 AM
What other countries had a dedicated tank retriever? "Gotta keep it balanced you know".  :D
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then we should have the puma(sdkfz 234) to balance out the M8 and the kubelwagon to balence out the jeep??

234/2 "Puma" - 1 x 5 cm KwK 39 L/60, 1 x MG34. Fully enclosed turret. The turret front was protected by 30 mm armor set at an angle of 20° from the vertical. The sides and rear had 10 mm armor set at 25°, and the top plate was 10 mm armor. The gun mantlet was rounded and was 40 to 100 mm thick.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Munster_SdKfz234_2_Puma_%28dark1%29.jpg)
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on April 01, 2010, 06:34:01 AM
No I have not GV'd since the update.  If this is correct then it is just like a damaged plane you land and can't reapair on the rearm pad.  So until we get a way to repair planes I think it would be useless or better yet an unfair advantage to Gv's since planes couldnt be repaied.  don't get me wrong I like nwe features but I just dont see it as feasable than offering a new target to the GV'ers since most vehicle recovery took place after the battle was faught.

BigKev
exactly! a nice tiger with either tracks or engine blown out would sit and wait till a nice little person to bring a RRV to him/her so he or she can take his or her tiger to base to land kills
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on April 01, 2010, 10:46:49 AM
then we should have the puma(sdkfz 234) to balance out the M8 and the kubelwagon to balence out the jeep??

234/2 "Puma" - 1 x 5 cm KwK 39 L/60, 1 x MG34. Fully enclosed turret. The turret front was protected by 30 mm armor set at an angle of 20° from the vertical. The sides and rear had 10 mm armor set at 25°, and the top plate was 10 mm armor. The gun mantlet was rounded and was 40 to 100 mm thick.
That would be a good thing Jay...makes me wonder why we don't have one when it looks to be a fairly simple mod of the M8.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on April 01, 2010, 11:28:40 AM
That would be a good thing Jay...makes me wonder why we don't have one when it looks to be a fairly simple mod of the M8.
it aint a simple mod of the M8... armor firepower speed and shape are all different between the two armored car styles. (and yes, they're armored cars schlowy4). <--for if he ever visits the BBS. :aok
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on April 01, 2010, 12:06:09 PM
it aint a simple mod of the M8... armor firepower speed and shape are all different between the two armored car styles.
I can see how it could be modded fairly easily...wouldn't be a difficult as starting from scratch...

(http://www.tankstogo.com/United_States/images/USm-8-01.jpg)

(http://www.missing-lynx.com/gallery/german/images/sdkfz2344ts_title.jpg)


How about this little American made British Beauty?
(http://www.warwheels.net/images/staghound1saumurTROW3.jpg)
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on April 01, 2010, 01:13:01 PM
Is number 3 the American made T17E1 British used Staghound armored car by any chance!? :D
Edit: Didnt look it up either!!!
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on April 01, 2010, 01:23:26 PM
Is number 3 the American made T17E1 British used Staghound armored car by any chance!? :D
Edit: Didnt look it up either!!!
Why yes, yes it is sir...I see reading that Kohlberg's article had an effect...  :D
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on April 01, 2010, 01:25:07 PM
Why yes, yes it is sir...I see reading that Kohlberg's article had an effect...  :D
:lol just about. now im gonna go get dumb again on the game :rofl
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on April 01, 2010, 01:26:04 PM
:lol just about. now im gonna go get dumb again on the game :rofl
Lucky fart, I'm stuck in the office until late this afternoon...  :cry
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on April 01, 2010, 01:28:33 PM
Lucky fart, I'm stuck in the office until late this afternoon...  :cry
:D im sooooo sorry to hear that.  :lol kidding man. hope u get on tonight cuz for once im online after 2pm EST so i can kick ur butt in the newest tour :aok
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: flubiu on April 08, 2010, 01:08:34 PM
Yes! I like it. I think you should earn perks like re-supplying a field and maybe assists for the number of kills that the Tiger has but "no" to the "1/4 kills". Nothing sucks more than getting tracked within sight of concrete!
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 08, 2010, 01:37:15 PM
You must not have been GV'n since the updates. GV supplies only resupply ammo now. Damaged turrets, treads, and engines are non-repairable.

BigKev is right, this vehicle would never be used in AH and would be a waste of development time when it's far easier just to run supplies to the damaged GV.

From the Patch 5 release notes.
Quote
Fixed a bug that caused vehicle resupplies to not repair all components on certain vehicles.


ack-ack
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on April 08, 2010, 01:48:40 PM
BigKev is right, this vehicle would never be used in AH and would be a waste of development time when it's far easier just to run supplies to the damaged GV.

From the Patch 5 release notes.

ack-ack
If supplies didn't do full repairs it would get used...and if there was some reward to it, people would be very willing to use it.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: 321BAR on April 08, 2010, 02:03:08 PM
BigKev is right, this vehicle would never be used in AH and would be a waste of development time when it's far easier just to run supplies to the damaged GV.

From the Patch 5 release notes.

ack-ack
patch 6 is better!!! :aok
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 08, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
If supplies didn't do full repairs it would get used...and if there was some reward to it, people would be very willing to use it.

If supplies didn't but supplies do.  The fact that supplies didn't fully fix a GV after patch 4 was a bug, it's been fixed in patch 5.

ack-ack
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: gyrene81 on April 08, 2010, 02:38:32 PM
If supplies didn't but supplies do.  The fact that supplies didn't fully fix a GV after patch 4 was a bug, it's been fixed in patch 5.

ack-ack
And if tank retrievers were created...it wouldn't be a bug if the supplies no longer fixed broken parts.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: RedTeck on April 08, 2010, 09:41:15 PM
Maybe it's just me, but I kinda liked it when your couldn't be repaired in the field. Now we're back to - ow, there goes my turret...click resupply..fire...ow there goes my turret....click resupply...fire...........
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: phatzo on April 09, 2010, 12:28:03 AM
Maybe it's just me, but I kinda liked it when your couldn't be repaired in the field. Now we're back to - ow, there goes my turret...click resupply..fire...ow there goes my turret....click resupply...fire...........
I'm not much of a GVer but that aspect of it does seem a little lame. If you had to be towed to a repair point, that took you out of the battle for a few minutes would be much less lame.
Title: Re: M31-ARV
Post by: Vudu15 on April 10, 2010, 11:59:35 PM
Like the idea +1 is there a way we could modify this to maybe work on airplanes ya know when ya got a radiator hit and ya have to ditch 10 feet from the concrete...
just an idea.