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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: oneway on April 06, 2010, 07:58:48 PM
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Does anyone know of a decent anti-virus program that can be unloaded at run time?
I used Kaspersky a few years ago and liked the way you could basically unload all of its running process by simply shutting it down...or ending the process in the task manager...
Presently I have eSet nod32 but hate the way it wont let you turn it off...
AVG is the same way...you can't turn it off...
Other than Kaspersky are there any other options?
Oneway
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Does anyone know of a decent anti-virus program that can be unloaded at run time?
I used Kaspersky a few years ago and liked the way you could basically unload all of its running process by simply shutting it down...or ending the process in the task manager...
Presently I have eSet nod32 but hate the way it wont let you turn it off...
AVG is the same way...you can't turn it off...
Other than Kaspersky are there any other options?
Oneway
I use and like Avast. It lets me shut it down or put it in "gaming mode." I don't know what gaming mode is exactly, but I just don't trust it, so I set it to shut down until restart, works just fine.
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Does anyone know of a decent anti-virus program that can be unloaded at run time?
Presently I have eSet nod32 but hate the way it wont let you turn it off...
Oneway
that is strange, do you have it set up to show just the "basic" window? or something?
I have used NOD32 in the past, and currently I use ESET SS4 ( Smart Security ie...NOD32 & more ), I use the Advanced View setting, but anytime I want to disable anything, all I got to do is right click, I can disable real-time file system protection, disable anti-virus, disable anti spyware and disable my firewall anytime I need or want to...... when I disable it, the processes shutdown & close out , leaving only the egui loaded (so you can start it back up when your ready ) iirc.....
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AVG and Avast are horrible. If I had a quarter for every friend/family member who's I had to help with a virus because they used either of those AV programs, I'd have a couple bucks. The only one I've been satisfied with for performance in both detecting, eliminating, and also low foot-print on the PC is ESET Nod32.
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AVG and Avast are horrible. If I had a quarter for every friend/family member who's I had to help with a virus because they used either of those AV programs, I'd have a couple bucks. The only one I've been satisfied with for performance in both detecting, eliminating, and also low foot-print on the PC is ESET Nod32.
I never liked the AVG at all, but I've not had any problem at all with the Avast. Of course, I handle any of the problems on this computer anyway and am pretty on top of it, but I haven't had any infections at all running it. And that's with an 8 year old girl on it and a GF who liked to use Limewire.
I hear nothing but good about Nod32, and wouldn't mind giving it a shot though. I just haven't had a serious reason to change yet.
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that is strange, do you have it set up to show just the "basic" window? or something?
I have used NOD32 in the past, and currently I use ESET SS4 ( Smart Security ie...NOD32 & more ), I use the Advanced View setting, but anytime I want to disable anything, all I got to do is right click, I can disable real-time file system protection, disable anti-virus, disable anti spyware and disable my firewall anytime I need or want to...... when I disable it, the processes shutdown & close out , leaving only the egui loaded (so you can start it back up when your ready ) iirc.....
Disabling it is not a problem...I want to UnLoad it totally...
Try turning it off then going to task manager and choose stop process...it won't let you...and it still sits there chomping up all that ram...
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Threatfire, plus it doesn't tie up resources like most AV products do.
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Disabling it is not a problem...I want to UnLoad it totally...
Try turning it off then going to task manager and choose stop process...it won't let you...and it still sits there chomping up all that ram...
How much ram is it "chomping up" and how much system ram do you have?
The best AV is yourself.
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Well, no one like McAfee but you can shut everything down quite easily through the UI.
But that begs the question, why not just shut what you have down in the services menu?
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use whatever you like, then run FSAutostart before firing up AH :aok
After FSAuto I have 18 processes running under XP (inc saitek sw and driver, audio drivers etc)
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Disabling it is not a problem...I want to UnLoad it totally...
Try turning it off then going to task manager and choose stop process...it won't let you...and it still sits there chomping up all that ram...
I game with ESET SS4 running and have NEVER had a problem. Your PC is the problem, not the A/V program. Buy more RAM, better CPU or both.
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Ditto. I play with the full McAfee suite running and don't have a problem.
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use whatever you like, then run FSAutostart before firing up AH :aok
After FSAuto I have 18 processes running under XP (inc saitek sw and driver, audio drivers etc)
When I had my Pentium 3, I had XP SP1 (SP2 added 6 processes alone) and played AH with 13 Processes total. Most make the mistake and put SP3 on an inadequate PC and blame the software/OS.
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<----puts SP3 on PII systems with no problems and with a very low thread count. :rock
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I had a pentium 4 2.8 3 gigs of ram, 35 processes and played the game fine with fps at around 40. its not how many processed you have, its how many "big" processed u run. I also had mccaffey, dumped it for esset and fps really didnt change.
semp
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I had a pentium 4 2.8 3 gigs of ram, 35 processes and played the game fine with fps at around 40. its not how many processed you have, its how many "big" processed u run. I also had mccaffey, dumped it for esset and fps really didnt change.
semp
"processes" are "processes", no matter how large or small. They are still CPU cycle stealers. The bottom line (Kermit's troll aside) is that the OP has something going on with his PC and ESET is NOT the culprit.
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Or, everyone is assuming he wants to unload it because it's causing a problem...seeing as he hasn't mentioned a problem yet.
Obsessive Compulsive people really do exist, ya know.
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Or, everyone is assuming he wants to unload it because it's causing a problem...seeing as he hasn't mentioned a problem yet.
Obsessive Compulsive people really do exist, ya know.
I agree, but ditching quite possibly the best AV is asinine.
The latest issue of MaximumPC has ESET winning again vs. Panda, Norton, Microsoft, Avast, Avira, McAfee, Trend Micro, BitDefender and Komodo.
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I won't disagree with you; it's what I use. I just know oneway can be a bit strange with his practices. :D
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I won't disagree with you; it's what I use. I just know oneway can be a bit strange with his practices. :D
:uhoh
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When I had my Pentium 3, I had XP SP1 (SP2 added 6 processes alone) and played AH with 13 Processes total. Most make the mistake and put SP3 on an inadequate PC and blame the software/OS.
I play right now with 14 process's including AH on SP3 . I can drop one other if i disable dns client but i leave that running . Did you all know that with saitek's programing software ..... that after you load your AH profile .... you can kill the profile service and program service and still have your stick perform as normal heh.
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I game with ESET SS4 running and have NEVER had a problem. Your PC is the problem, not the A/V program. Buy more RAM, better CPU or both.
i7 2.8 x64 6GB Ram...ram is not the issue...I just want the power to terminate the AV process/thread...I am a control freak...
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I won't disagree with you; it's what I use. I just know oneway can be a bit strange with his practices. :D
You and Mash have it right....no problems at all running the ESET AV...I just like the POWER of killing it when I want to...
ESET is a fine AV platform...except its insidious domination and control of its own process...you can not kill ESET in the task manager by attempting to end its process...I do not appreciate that sort of control granted to an elective application...father does not always know best....
The OP question was: What decent AV software is available that lets you kill it during a session?
Oneway
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Incidentally I have gone back to Kaspersky...
The only software I have found so far that will unload all of its running process by simply clicking on the tray icon and choosing exit...
Oneway
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You and Mash have it right....no problems at all running the ESET AV...I just like the POWER of killing it when I want to...
ESET is a fine AV platform...except its insidious domination and control of its own process...you can not kill ESET in the task manager by attempting to end its process...I do not appreciate that sort of control granted to an elective application...father does not always know best....
The OP question was: What decent AV software is available that lets you kill it during a session?
Oneway
Wull, gee! If you could kill it programmatically, then it would be a lot like all the cruddy pretend AV programs that all the malware kills off first thing when they get a toe-hold - or like 2 or 3 year old AV that doesn't protect much from much.
In short, no decent modern AV is going to allow another process to terminate it.
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Wull, gee! If you could kill it programmatically, then it would be a lot like all the cruddy pretend AV programs that all the malware kills off first thing when they get a toe-hold - or like 2 or 3 year old AV that doesn't protect much from much.
In short, no decent modern AV is going to allow another process to terminate it.
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I have a bit of programming experience...in regards to thread allocation and control...though I must confess I am an amateur...however any process that kills another process can be inspected by the victim process...all programs have the ability to query interlopers...any AV program worth its salt can ascertain the the source of the calling assassin. Its a simple matter of identifying the calling process.
Most AV proc's take the easy out...and just deny all interludes...that is the cheap an easy way...
Again...the OP question remains: List all AV app's that allow the end user to terminate them.....
So far Kaspersky is the only AV that I have found that lets you right click kill its process...in totality...
Oneway
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Easiest solution probably would be to dualboot and leave AV uninstalled to the partition which you use only for AH / online games. Just make sure you don't browse internet when you're in there. That way you can still even scan the 'game OS' from the other boot side.