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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: RaptorL on April 10, 2010, 09:02:14 PM
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Need I say More?
http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/2/I%20211.htm (http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/2/I%20211.htm)
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Specifications (Il-10)
General characteristics
Crew: Two - pilot and gunner
Length: 36 ft 6 in
Wingspan: 44 ft 0 in
Height: 13 ft 5 in
Wing area: 322.9 sq. ft
Empty weight: 0,305 lb
Loaded weight: 14,000 lb
Maximum gross takeoff weight: 14,410
Powerplant: 1× Mikulin AM-42 liquid-cooled V-12, 1,770 hp (1,320 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 5at ground level 340 mph at 8,860 ft / 310 mph
Range: 500 mi)
Service ceiling: 13,120 ft
Wing loading: 43.2 lb/ft²
Armament
4x 23 mm Nudelman-Suranov NS-23 cannons in wings, 150 rounds each
1x 20 mm Berezin B-20T cannon in the BU-9 rear gunner station, 150 rounds
Up to 600 kg (1,320 lb) of various weapons
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:rofl
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:rofl
What's so funny? The IL-10 saw action at the tail end of the war.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Ilyushin_Il-10.jpg)
ack-ack
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ok put it in and perk the $#!& out of it
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I would be willing to use bomber perks to fly this.
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ok put it in and perk the $#!& out of it
Why would it need to be perked? Do you know why planes are perked in the first place?
ack-ack
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Why would it need to be perked? Do you know why planes are perked in the first place?
ack-ack
yeah for being too dominating. 4 23mm cannons, plus a 20mm in back. too much #&@%ing firepower
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Being an extremely upgraded Il-2 (my main ride), I'd absolutely love this aircraft. I, too, would be willing to spend bomber perks on it.
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Need I say More?
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Armament
4x 23 mm Nudelman-Suranov NS-23 cannons in wings, 150 rounds each
1x 20 mm Berezin B-20T cannon in the BU-9 rear gunner station, 150 rounds
Up to 600 kg (1,320 lb) of various weapons
The wartime Il-10s had two 23mm VYa cannons. The 4xNS-cannon setup is from post war period. Also, the production aircraft had the normal Berezin 12,7mm in the back.
Currently there much more important aircraft to be added to the VVS lineup.
Nevertheless, while not a priority of any sorts, it certainly would be a fun and interesting ride in the LWMAs.
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yeah for being too dominating. 4 23mm cannons, plus a 20mm in back. too much #&@%ing firepower
Gun size is not the be all and end all of air combat ya know, B-25H boy :D
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:rofl
What's so funny? The IL-10 saw action at the tail end of the war.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/Ilyushin_Il-10.jpg)
ack-ack
ok put it in and perk the $#!& out of it
Why would it need to be perked? Do you know why planes are perked in the first place?
ack-ack
yeah for being too dominating. 4 23mm cannons, plus a 20mm in back. too much #&@%ing firepower
I feel like we've had this conversation before :rofl don't forget the P51s too rino :lol
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Nah. There are far many more aircraft that deserve attention than adding another IL-2 variant.
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Gun size is not the be all and end all of air combat ya know, B-25H boy :D
well b25h aint very maneuverable. that thing has nearly the firepower as my b25, and is much more maneuverable
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Sure, as long as the engine problems and fires are modelled as well...99 produced by the end of 1944 and the entire first gen scrapped before the end of the war...there's a great war record...not.
If a Korean war era plane set comes in, then give it a go.
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well b25h aint very maneuverable. that thing has nearly the firepower as my b25, and is much more maneuverable
And?
Being more manuverable than a B-25 is perkworthy, now?
You realize the P-47s have the same amount of 50cals but 25% more ammo per gun, and fly a lot faster, a lot higher, and turn a heckuva lot better, while carrying about the same load of ord (3k)?
OMGZBBQ! PERKZ TEH JUGZ!
:rolleyes:
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Take away F3 view from bombers and see how perk worthy an IL-ground attack variant
should be :rofl
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And?
Being more manuverable than a B-25 is perkworthy, now?
You realize the P-47s have the same amount of 50cals but 25% more ammo per gun, and fly a lot faster, a lot higher, and turn a heckuva lot better, while carrying about the same load of ord (3k)?
OMGZBBQ! PERKZ TEH JUGZ!
:rolleyes:
krusty, talking to him is like saying Bill Gates only has the amount of money Oprah Winfrey has... It's not possible to accomplish :aok
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well b25h aint very maneuverable. that thing has nearly the firepower as my b25, and is much more maneuverable
No, it actually has more firepower than the B-25H. Just because it is more manueuverable than the Mitchell doesn't mean it needs to be perked. The A-20 is far more maneuverable than the B-25H and isn't perked.
You have to stop comparing every plane with the B-25H, you're just making yourself look, well, dumb.
ack-ack
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you're just making yourself look, well, dumb.
ack-ack
Truer words have never been spoken.
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No, it actually has more firepower than the B-25H. Just because it is more manueuverable than the Mitchell doesn't mean it needs to be perked. The A-20 is far more maneuverable than the B-25H and isn't perked.
You have to stop comparing every plane with the B-25H, you're just making yourself look, well, dumb.
ack-ack
So... we shouldn't compare the B-25 to say...the JU-87? :confused: Ack-Ack is right, if we compared everything's turn radius to that of the B-25, 3/4 of the planes in AH would turn better. The IL-10 is a great plane no doubt, though.
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And?
Being more manuverable than a B-25 is perkworthy, now?
You realize the P-47s have the same amount of 50cals but 25% more ammo per gun, and fly a lot faster, a lot higher, and turn a heckuva lot better, while carrying about the same load of ord (3k)?
OMGZBBQ! PERKZ TEH JUGZ!
:rolleyes:
the h model has the 75 mm
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the h model has the 75 mm
Which is pretty much worthless in all aspects except busting strats or killing GVs.
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Which is pretty much worthless in all aspects except busting strats or killing GVs.
or blowing planes out of the sky when in the hands of an experienced pilot
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the h model has the 75 mm
And a Tiger tank has an 88mm.
Your point?
It has nothing to do with the ability of that plane to bomb anything, or shoot anything down better than a far superior plane.
You really need to drop the entire B-25H fetish you have going.
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or blowing planes out of the sky when in the hands of an experienced pilot
I'd say at the least it's a 1 in 100 chance you'll hit a plane, I'm leaning more toward 1 in 500 chance.
On the contrary, the B25H is one of the most easiest planes in the game to kill, "when in the hands of an experienced pilot".
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The B-25H is actually slower at typical alts than a fully loaded B-24, B-17, and Lancaster... So the chances of using it as a bomber buster are slim to none. The idea of using it against fighters is even more laughable, and the entire fascination he has about this plane borders on the delusional.
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LOL spikes. Ok fine put it in you win
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in the hands of an experienced pilot
Whos hands?
I cant think of anyone who has used the 75mm to some level of success against fighters.
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Whos hands?
I cant think of anyone who has used the 75mm to some level of success against fighters.
me
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Whos hands?
I cant think of anyone who has used the 75mm to some level of success against fighters.
I see tards HO with it but even then the chances of the 75mm hitting are slim to none, you are better off just using the 50 cals.
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me
Honestly? you have around 10 kills in it. I doubt any significant percentage of them are with the 75mm, let alone against fighters.
What name do you fly under?
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I think we got off topic, and here to gets us back on topic, Mr Conway Twitty.
(http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/c/conway-twitty/album-gold.jpg)
Hi, I'm Conway Twitty and I would like the Ilyushin IL-10 in Aces High.
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or blowing planes out of the sky when in the hands of an experienced pilot
Just stop..Spikes is right.
The 75mm cannon on the B-25H is basically worthless for anything other than ground attack. If anyone gets a kill with the 75mm on a fighter, it was due to 1) extreme luck and 2) the enemy pilot being dumb. You will be more successful in using the defensive guns (top, tail and waist turrets) in shooting down enemy fighters than you will with the 75mm. I say this as a person with far more experience and success than you do in the B-25H.
ack-ack
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me
Jeebus...you only have 4 kills, to 11 deaths in a B-25H this tour and I am willing to bet that each of the planes you shot down were with the defensive guns and not the 75mm. I know, you'll claim that it was but I've fought against you. I know how you fight and how bad you are at it, you did not shoot down any of those planes with a 75mm round. Last tour you managed to get 9 kills in the B-25H to 26 deaths. Again, each of those fighters were shot down with the defensive guns on the B-25H and not one with the 75mm.
This will put this debate to an end...post the films of you dogfighting and shooting down a maneuvering fighter with the 75mm cannon.
ack-ack
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I have killed an F4-u with the 75mm......................... ...But I was attacking a destroyer when I heard a few pings then a screaming F4-4u overshoots straight into the 75mm I had just fired at the destroyer. We'll put that one down to dumb and lucky.
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Well, if "manuvering" means slowly rolling down a runway to take off, I've got MORE than a few kills with the 75mm on fighters! :cheers:
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Well, if "manuvering" means slowly rolling down a runway to take off, I've got MORE than a few kills with the 75mm on fighters! :cheers:
Heheh, same here. I used to vulch out of ack range with it.
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Ok seriously, enough of the B-25.
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http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/2/I%20211.htm (http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/2/I%20211.htm)
(http://planesandchoppers.com.s3.amazonaws.com/9108.jpg)
Specifications (Il-10)
General characteristics
Crew: Two - pilot and gunner
Length: 36 ft 6 in
Wingspan: 44 ft 0 in
Height: 13 ft 5 in
Wing area: 322.9 sq. ft
Empty weight: 0,305 lb
Loaded weight: 14,000 lb
Maximum gross takeoff weight: 14,410
Powerplant: 1× Mikulin AM-42 liquid-cooled V-12, 1,770 hp (1,320 kW)
Performance
Maximum speed: 5at ground level 340 mph at 8,860 ft / 310 mph
Range: 500 mi)
Service ceiling: 13,120 ft
Wing loading: 43.2 lb/ft²
Armament
4x 23 mm Nudelman-Suranov NS-23 cannons in wings, 150 rounds each
1x 20 mm Berezin B-20T cannon in the BU-9 rear gunner station, 150 rounds
Up to 600 kg (1,320 lb) of various weapons
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One time I had a typhoon dive on my b25H and over shoot, he then proceded to make a lazy horizontal turn 800 infront of me, I fired only the 75mm and got a direct hit. Now that was probably 75% luck and 25% his poor decision but it made my day. :lol
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I'd say at the least it's a 1 in 100 chance you'll hit a plane, I'm leaning more toward 1 in 500 chance.
On the contrary, the B25H is one of the most easiest planes in the game to kill, "when in the hands of an experienced pilot".
Well i must say i partially...gulp...agree with cobra here. With the 75mm you mean only HO 1-500 chance or actual fighting? Cuz in HOs i hit more planes than you'd think spikes
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Well i must say i partially...gulp...agree with cobra here. With the 75mm you mean only HO 1-500 chance or actual fighting? Cuz in HOs i hit more planes than you'd think spikes
I mean get behind a fighter and fire just the 75mm at them from 200-1000 to whatever distance out.
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I mean get behind a fighter and fire just the 75mm at them from 200-1000 to whatever distance out.
ok agreed then. thank you for clarifying. Now im going to sleep and never waking up because i shoulda guessed that answer :uhoh
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Why would it need to be perked? Do you know why planes are perked in the first place?
ack-ack
Yea, are some AC perked?
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would like this plane but would it also have the optional gun package (for tanks!)