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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: 1carbine on April 10, 2010, 10:38:56 PM
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We're not allowed to shoot bombers wile we are on the ground I understand not wanting people to defending bases just by upping bombers and sitting on the runway. But I want to get in the air with a B-25h to clear a vehicle spawn when there is a furball going on, and I want to be able to defend myself when I'm going down the runway. So I propose that they let us use the gunners seats on bombers WHILE WE'RE MOVING not just in the air whether we're on the ground or not.
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How about spawning a GV and bust it up that way? Or perhaps up from a base that's not under a furball.
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what about those few times ur uppin bout the time some vulcher decides to shoot up the field decides to get you. in those rare instances would be nice to be able to shoot from the ground, would give vulchers something to think about too.
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+1 for shooting if moving.
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The coad is the way it is for a reason.
Accept the coad, work with the coad.
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The best policy is not to take off from a capped field.
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Can go both ways here... :lol dont say anything. But yeah +1 to shooting if moving say over 60mph? but who would be dumb enough to up at a capped field to need this?
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I was going to say...maybe not at 1mph...because then some people would go 50 throttle and hold brakes...how about like 321BAR said, 50, 60, mph?
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How about spawning a GV and bust it up that way? Or perhaps up from a base that's not under a furball.
Yeah cuz the the vehicle hangers are ALWAYS up.
I was going to say...maybe not at 1mph...because then some people would go 50 throttle and hold brakes...how about like 321BAR said, 50, 60, mph?
Well I does take time to accelerate but 30 or 40 would do. and I knew this would come up, you hve to run out of field eventually :D.
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Yeah cuz the the vehicle hangers are ALWAYS up.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I did a little testing and it takes around 15 seconds give or take from the time press the button to up, til you hit 30MPH so 30 should do fine.
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15 seconds to get to 30mph what are you driving one of these?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Crawler_Transporter_Space_Shuttle.jpg)
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15 seconds to get to 30mph what are you driving one of these?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Crawler_Transporter_Space_Shuttle.jpg)
Whoops meant 12 :bolt:
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The coad is the way it is for a reason.
Accept the coad, work with the coad.
I know this is going to made me sound stupid(er) but what is the coad?
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The best policy is not to take off from a capped field.
So who will defend the field if no one will up. you know...or maybe you dont its those few people holding out till help arrives that usually saves the bases. Seems to be the number one thing Ive heard "dont up for a capped field" sure if theres no way, got ya. but if these enough room to run off the runway ina la5 shoot down a goon and die ina violent explosion Ill be there every time :D
because to me that's fun.
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The best policy is not to take off from a capped field.
Some people have not figure that out yet.
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That'd be nice to be able to shoot vulchers from the runway in bomberz. +1
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There is no need to up bombers at a capped field. So there is no need to go guns active on the runway. Up a plane from a different field, use field guns, Wirbelwinds, Ostwinds, or an M-16. The tools are there, use them.
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There is no need to up bombers at a capped field. So there is no need to go guns active on the runway. Up from a plane from a different field, use field guns, Wirbelwinds, Ostwinds, or an M-16. The tools are there, use them.
That is the ticket, waysting2. However, there are some people have not figure that out.
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I'll up from a capped field as long as they're not vulching all runways, then there's no point. but nothing better than hoing/killing/scratching some guy who think he/she's gonna get an easy kill.
semp
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There is no need to up bombers at a capped field. So there is no need to go guns active on the runway. Up a plane from a different field, use field guns, Wirbelwinds, Ostwinds, or an M-16. The tools are there, use them.
Ok scenario, vh is down guns are down furball going on over town with occasional vulcher cv off shore, I up a B25h to take out the cv I'm not going to fly a sector just to furball I don't usually up fighters (I know my B-25h). So what am I supposed to do just sit there while they're rolling lvt's? no i'm going to up on the field and hope i make it out alive there a difference between a capped field and a furball with a couple of vulchers. Hell i made it off ground when there where tanks on the field just in time to kill troops headed for the maproom.
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Ok scenario, vh is down guns are down furball going on over town with occasional vulcher cv off shore, I up a B25h to take out the cv I'm not going to fly a sector just to furball I don't usually up fighters (I know my B-25h). So what am I supposed to do just sit there while they're rolling lvt's? no i'm going to up on the field and hope i make it out alive there a difference between a capped field and a furball with a couple of vulchers. Hell i made it off ground when there where tanks on the field just in time to kill troops headed for the maproom.
I admire your tenacity and your intentions seem noble. However, there are far more gamers out there that will turn it into a "park on the runway gun platform". I do feel your pain, as I am usually in the thick of it most times. I would offer a friendly suggestion to you, broaden your horizon a bit. For instance an LA-7 (only an example) can rip across a whole sector plenty fast with a couple of eggs that will easily kill LVT's. Not to mention the cannons eat troops, and your speed keeps you out of most carrier aircraft's grasp.
:salute
Way
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Back when we had darker terrain right off the base I'd roll an IL2 from the hanger and swing left. Rarely would someone see you, just had to time it right so you could get into the dark "grass".
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Back when we had darker terrain right off the base I'd roll an IL2 from the hanger and swing left. Rarely would someone see you, just had to time it right so you could get into the dark "grass".
Did somebody say grass? (http://www.ec-guild.com/forums/images/smilies/emot-2bong.png)
:rofl
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I admire your tenacity and your intentions seem noble. However, there are far more gamers out there that will turn it into a "park on the runway gun platform". I do feel your pain, as I am usually in the thick of it most times. I would offer a friendly suggestion to you, broaden your horizon a bit. For instance an LA-7 (only an example) can rip across a whole sector plenty fast with a couple of eggs that will easily kill LVT's. Not to mention the cannons eat troops, and your speed keeps you out of most carrier aircraft's grasp.
:salute
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Only if your moving above 30 MPH is what I was saying. defenitly not parked on the runway though.
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Not even while moving. -2
I HATE, bomber "pilots" who don't know squat about bombing and yet try to act as though they could even drop the bomb(s) within 10 miles of the target. Example: Fly 10,000 feet, get a field gun by just dropping all over the base, die or bail and then complain or try to "brag".
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Not even while moving. -2
I HATE, bomber "pilots" who don't know squat about bombing and yet try to act as though they could even drop the bomb(s) within 10 miles of the target. Example: Fly 10,000 feet, get a field gun by just dropping all over the base, die or bail and then complain or try to "brag".
I usually defend but when I bomb I'm not bad (definetly not the best though) drop a hanger or 2 or just go out dropping dar on the enemy coast. But how do you feel about getting vulched?
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So who will defend the field if no one will up. you know...or maybe you dont its those few people holding out till help arrives that usually saves the bases. Seems to be the number one thing Ive heard "dont up for a capped field" sure if theres no way, got ya. but if these enough room to run off the runway ina la5 shoot down a goon and die ina violent explosion Ill be there every time :D
because to me that's fun.
hell yeah, me too! :aok
+1 to bomber guns over XXmph
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I usually defend but when I bomb I'm not bad (definetly not the best though) drop a hanger or 2 or just go out dropping dar on the enemy coast. But how do you feel about getting vulched?
I don't get vulched in a bomber, only an idiot ups a bomber from a base with a lag convention next to it and a whole two countries HO'ing for dominance.
Hate to break it to ya, but you probably suck arse at stick. What bomber do you fly anyways, what's your average altitude and how many sectors away should you be for a solid run?
And one more simple question, what's the best combo for a B-17 that's flying 2 sectors and doing a triangular course?
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I know this is going to made me sound stupid(er) but what is the coad?
One thing COAD stands for is Chronic Obstructive Airways Disease. :old:
In here it is a misspelling of the word code that Hitech uses in his avatar.
Some people know it's intentionally misspelled, others don't even know it's misspelled.
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So who will defend the field if no one will up. you know...or maybe you dont its those few people holding out till help arrives that usually saves the bases. Seems to be the number one thing Ive heard "dont up for a capped field" sure if theres no way, got ya. but if these enough room to run off the runway ina la5 shoot down a goon and die ina violent explosion Ill be there every time :D
because to me that's fun.
Roll a flak out or a M8 to the town for the goon. If VH is down, roll from the spawn point. I usually go with the M8 it the red guys are going for the base capture, because that's the fastest way to get to town.
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I don't get vulched in a bomber, only an idiot ups a bomber from a base with a lag convention next to it and a whole two countries HO'ing for dominance.
Hate to break it to ya, but you probably suck arse at stick. What bomber do you fly anyways, what's your average altitude and how many sectors away should you be for a solid run?
And one more simple question, what's the best combo for a B-17 that's flying 2 sectors and doing a triangular course?
Hit you intended targets :neener:
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Hit you intended targets :neener:
I said combo, what the... does "Hit you intended targets" suppose to be?
By the way the last question i asked was lacking info. did you not notice?
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I said combo, what the... does "Hit you intended targets" suppose to be?
By the way the last question i asked was lacking info. did you not notice?
Honestly i just get lined up, calibrate and hit my targets (hangers,ord, or dar not just little stuff like guns) and what is it with this capped field crap? all it takes is one dive bomber and for you to take off at the wrong time to get vulched and some people just preffer to fly bombers like Il2's instead of fighters.
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We're not allowed to shoot bombers wile we are on the ground I understand not wanting people to defending bases just by upping bombers and sitting on the runway. But I want to get in the air with a B-25h to clear a vehicle spawn when there is a furball going on, and I want to be able to defend myself when I'm going down the runway. So I propose that they let us use the gunners seats on bombers WHILE WE'RE MOVING not just in the air whether we're on the ground or not.
Easier to intercept the raid and kill them before they get near the field :aok
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Honestly i just get lined up, calibrate and hit my targets (hangers,ord, or dar not just little stuff like guns) and what is it with this capped field crap? all it takes is one dive bomber and for you to take off at the wrong time to get vulched and some people just preffer to fly bombers like Il2's instead of fighters.
I'm willing to bet you die most of the time. A dive bomber, never happened to me before, and I've been playing this game for a long time. IL-2's are not true bombers, i repeat, not true bombers.
Lets not mention you most likely go after bases that aren't even being targeted by your friendlies (thus likely chance no enemy fighters are around, so you get owned by FLAK), who probably need the help to capture the base.
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WHILE WE'RE MOVING
but then people will just up a b-17 and put their throttle on to 3% and slowly move down the runway at a speed of 1 mph, while trying to shoot somebody down
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Indeed.
You want an ack gun? Get in an ack gun. You want a mobile ack gun? Get in an ostwind. You want a frakkin' LETHAL mobile ack gun? Get in a wirble. You really MUST have those 50cals? Get in a M16.
What's the problem here? You either go wheels up and take off, or you get in a GV. I fail to see the issue.
There is nothing but grief in all the WW1 posts about the F2B gunners shooting down droves of planes while parked on the ground beneath a fight. That's the last thing the timid WW2 MAs need.
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Maybe we could get a Death Blossom to deploy behind us as we run down the runway :D
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Maybe we could get a Death Blossom to deploy behind us as we run down the runway :D
Did somebody say Death Blossom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlAsSyDAWR8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlAsSyDAWR8)
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but then people will just up a b-17 and put their throttle on to 3% and slowly move down the runway at a speed of 1 mph, while trying to shoot somebody down
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You haven't been reading have you ABOVE 30 MILES PER HOUR there you go.
I'm willing to bet you die most of the time. A dive bomber, never happened to me before, and I've been playing this game for a long time. IL-2's are not true bombers, i repeat, not true bombers.
Lets not mention you most likely go after bases that aren't even being targeted by your friendlies (thus likely chance no enemy fighters are around, so you get owned by FLAK), who probably need the help to capture the base.
Rule #4 (and i go after what i feel like)
Indeed.
You want an ack gun? Get in an ack gun. You want a mobile ack gun? Get in an ostwind. You want a frakkin' LETHAL mobile ack gun? Get in a wirble. You really MUST have those 50cals? Get in a M16.
What's the problem here? You either go wheels up and take off, or you get in a GV. I fail to see the issue.
There is nothing but grief in all the WW1 posts about the F2B gunners shooting down droves of planes while parked on the ground beneath a fight. That's the last thing the timid WW2 MAs need.
And how when there's no VH?
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And how when there's no VH?
Then maybe you should roll in GVs from a nearby base...
You've just admitted right there you want to use it for a mobile ack platorm rather than flying and defending. Bombers were not meant to do this. They never did this in WW2. It's absurd to want to abuse the game so badly to the point of defending bases with bomber formations
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Then maybe you should roll in GVs from a nearby base...
You've just admitted right there you want to use it for a mobile ack platorm rather than flying and defending. Bombers were not meant to do this. They never did this in WW2. It's absurd to want to abuse the game so badly to the point of defending bases with bomber formations
When did i say that? I want to use it to defend myself when i'm not quite off the runway so i can get in the air thats all. and i'm cant drive a GV for seven hours when there's no spawn or near by base i can drive from?
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but then people will just up a b-17 and put their throttle on to 3% and slowly move down the runway at a speed of 1 mph, while trying to shoot somebody down
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said earlier to only allow it to kick in around 50-100mph then you can shoot. Theres only so much runway
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You realize that at that speed you're airborn already, right? So, your wish is granted! You CAN man the guns at those speeds!
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You realize that at that speed you're airborn already, right? So, your wish is granted! You CAN man the guns at those speeds!
in lancs? or B24s? and btw since when has even a Kate upped at 50mph?
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Liftoff is usually around 80mph for a lot of those birds when you use a notch of flaps, the kate will easily lift off at super slow speeds with flaps. But that's not an issue, since he's talking about formations with heavy gun emplacements that can clear an airfield under attack.
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Liftoff is usually around 80mph for a lot of those birds when you use a notch of flaps, the kate will easily lift off at super slow speeds with flaps. But that's not an issue, since he's talking about formations with heavy gun emplacements that can clear an airfield under attack.
80mph? really? hmm well i didn't care about this topic i just like discussing topics... I'll jump ship again to no :aok
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If you don't care about the topic why are you bringing it up? :huh
Look, ya don't HAVE to post just for the sake of posting.
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I got your answer Krusty:
Hey look at my post count! :banana:
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We're not allowed to shoot bombers wile we are on the ground I understand not wanting people to defending bases just by upping bombers and sitting on the runway. But I want to get in the air with a B-25h to clear a vehicle spawn when there is a furball going on, and I want to be able to defend myself when I'm going down the runway. So I propose that they let us use the gunners seats on bombers WHILE WE'RE MOVING not just in the air whether we're on the ground or not.
i like watching the guys that take lancs up for gv's....and give those gv's 14,000 pounds of love. 'cept if i;m one of the gv's. :neener: :rofl :noid
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Liftoff is usually around 80mph for a lot of those birds when you use a notch of flaps, the kate will easily lift off at super slow speeds with flaps. But that's not an issue, since he's talking about formations with heavy gun emplacements that can clear an airfield under attack.
:huh B25h,tbm, and il2's are single bombers i didn't say just for formations where is this stuff coming from? :headscratch: and the B25h does not lift off at 50 mph flaps or not so they do not work.
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If you don't care about the topic why are you bringing it up? :huh
Look, ya don't HAVE to post just for the sake of posting.
yes but the discussion is worth the posting... it intrigues me what other people think... so yes technically i care about the topic just not if it is in game or not
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:huh B25h,tbm, and il2's are single bombers i didn't say just for formations where is this stuff coming from? :headscratch: and the B25h does not lift off at 50 mph flaps or not so they do not work.
He didn't say 50mph, READ. And they do work, they take of at VERY low speeds for its size.
Again, those may be "bombers", but they are not true bombers. More over heavy fighters with lots 'o' load to handle tanks or any light enemy (including trains, boats, and bases).
By the way, to the old reply. Just because you do whatever you feel like doesn't mean you can come and complain that "whatever i feel like" tactics are going down hill because you don't know a :furious, let me repeat, YOU DON'T KNOW A :furious ABOUT BOMBING.
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+1 for rolling down the runway in a B-17 and kickin those vultures Arses! :rock
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He didn't say 50mph, READ. And they do work, they take of at VERY low speeds for its size.
Again, those may be "bombers", but they are not true bombers. More over heavy fighters with lots 'o' load to handle tanks or any light enemy (including trains, boats, and bases).
By the way, to the old reply. Just because you do whatever you feel like doesn't mean you can come and complain that "whatever i feel like" tactics are going down hill because you don't know a :furious, let me repeat, YOU DON'T KNOW A :furious ABOUT BOMBING.
Why do you sit there and insult someone you don't know? You've never bombed with me. You make it sound hard like your the master and no one does it as good as you. Did you pay to go to a school for this or something? cuz it wasn't worth the time or money.
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No, I'm not the master at bombing, but i sure as heck don't go do my own stunts then complain about them on the BBS.
I actually like new bomber pilots, but i absolutely hate when they complain about how they do it "their" way and it fails because they do "their" way before actually practicing a bit. The reason i got so ticked off was because instead of just dropping the problem and went to go find a fix you argue and complain of you failing tactics.
So I'm just going to stomp you down right here. -10 to the idea, you're not worth the time to argue.
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No, I'm not the master at bombing, but i sure as heck don't go do my own stunts then complain about them on the BBS.
I actually like new bomber pilots, but i absolutely hate when they complain about how they do it "their" way and it fails because they do "their" way before actually practicing a bit. The reason i got so ticked off was because instead of just dropping the problem and went to go find a fix you argue and complain of you failing tactics.
So I'm just going to stomp you down right here. -10 to the idea, you're not worth the time to argue.
Thank you have a nice day.
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At one point in my life I was a black belt in Goshin-Do Aikijitsu.............
But that self defense knowledge never helps me on the runway.
......... Just saying.