Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: jimson on April 13, 2010, 08:25:11 AM
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At one time I had knocked down all the graphic detail settings and have been flying like that for months.
Yesterday I maxed them all out again and had a much more difficult time seeing bandits against the terrain.
Could it be that great graphic power isn't so much of an advantage with no icons after all?
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anything is possible!
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I know of people who turn their resolution way down for special events. They say it's easier to see the rendered dots of aircraft at long distances. Perhaps less detailed terrain creates less "clutter" to hide low flying aircraft.
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Jaeger's back! :banana: WTH man? I had no one to blame for anything :confused:
This is interesting Jimson. I was just reading another post about Anistrophic Filtering and how it affected the ground detail. It used to just about take me a month to get my settings right after an update. :lol
What I find, in my case (very obsolete computer, and probably vid card). I can change my screen resolution to 800 x 600 and see enemy at a reasonable distance. Anything above, I seriously mistake them for dust on the screen. However, I like a challenge :joystick: and smoother looking films :cool: .
I think that I can blame Jaeger for me having to take another month to figure this out :t
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oh so you're blind and you want to blame me?? not my problem :D
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The lower your resolution the less detail, the less detail the bigger the pixels and the more objects stand out. Or it seems to for me.
YMMV
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<steps on Jaeger's foot> Oh, sorry.... I didn't see you there... :neener:
Shifty, after reading this, I forced my resolution into an even lower resolution and used 16x anistropic filter along with 8xS Antialias and since have been able to see objects further away. Like you pointed out the detail is not there, but with the filter and antialias, it is still a much clearer picture of what the distant aircraft is doing (heading, and attitude). :noid
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I know of people who turn their resolution way down for special events. They say it's easier to see the rendered dots of aircraft at long distances. Perhaps less detailed terrain creates less "clutter" to hide low flying aircraft.
that sonds about right, to me.........
also, their are those with the 27" to 42" monitors who can use more detail , yet still see larger dots/pixels at greater distances.....
for those stuck with 15", 17", 19" monitors.you prob either need to reduce the detail settings, or the screen res & textures sized used or just grin and bare it..... for it all is a crap shot........ have not noticed any "increased immersion" from any of it though.......
I plan on dropping by if I can find some people in the AvsA........ kind of miss the place, used to be my favorite arena.....
I just wished it did not keep on changing ever several months, the way it has for last year or 2.......
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TC, hop by Tues. April 20th about 9 :aok
Now, here is a good question. Does the texture size reduce or increase fighter visibility in your opinion, when using lower texture size? :headscratch:
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I just wished it did not keep on changing ever several months, the way it has for last year or 2.......
What's changed, aside from the maps and icon settings?
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What's changed, aside from the maps and icon settings?
gyrene, just go back for the last 2 to 6 years and look at the different attempts to "FIX" or "Attempt" to bring more people to the AvsA, from having allied vs axis battles that run and kep score, to having squads come in , pork every fields radar, troops, ordinance right before said squad's begin their "squad night" to having possibly some squads/groups try and rule the roost as if it is their play ground, to having something similar to a rolling planeset, to where if a side meets it's objective it gets to pick a plane to be added, to etc, etc, etc......
then on top of all that people flaming the way the AvsA is, or people attacking new comers, or attacking the AvsA Staff, etc etc etc.....
heck, I was even a part of being vocal on some occassions...... I was wrong at times, and at times I may have been right, but most times I just expressed my opinion or views, or suggestions ..which are some like: why vulch 1 or 2 guys with 5 or 6 squad mates hovering over a field..... or attack 6 to 8 on 1...etc... ( this was several years ago btw... and then a cple a years before that etc...) funny thing is, it still happens TODAY...... most times with less than 12 people in the arena
but to get right down to it, I loved the AvsA, long before all the stuff kept a changing, or being switched up...... there was nothing wrong with it, and it carried itself perfectly with well known players who brought forth good battles, even balanced sides..... gv battles
every few months or so, someone will come along and say, lets do this, if we do this we might get more people to show up, and a squad or 2 ( or 3 ) will try to become the TOP DOG Squad of the AvsA as if they have a right ......I wish I could choose some better wording.....but that will suffice for now..
it has been a never ending cycle of change since ..well at least since Aces High II was released back in 2004......
the maps and icon settings is just "another change"......... this time for a different NEW group that has come in to make their own little playground........
but what the heck, I said I'll come give it a try.......
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a squad or 2 ( or 3 ) will try to become the TOP DOG Squad of the AvsA as if they have a right ......I wish I could choose some better wording.....but that will suffice for now..
that don't sound right, everyone has a right to play where ever they wish........ just don't show up and act like it is your playground and you own the place, and then act like moronic landlords and drive others away from the arena....... and or try and suck up / brown nose any or all of the AvsA Staff to get your way.....
not saying that is what happens or has happened before... but I am also not saying that people did not attempt to try and do such crazy things either in years past.....
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that don't sound right, everyone has a right to play where ever they wish........ just don't show up and act like it is your playground and you own the place, and then act like moronic landlords and drive others away from the arena....... and or try and suck up / brown nose any or all of the AvsA Staff to get your way.....
Ah, now I understand, and I really hope no one acts in either manner, especially at this point in time. Right now efforts are being made to get the interested parties on the same page and build participation based on some agreed upon guidelines and settings that can't be found in the other arenas. Hopefully it works.
I think it can be a success if people put aside their egos and consider the possibilities...give everything a chance and not form any opinions until they have experienced it at least once.
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:aok Gyrene
TC,
This worries me. I am thinking that change is good (not always). The fact is, all of the AvA squads that I have encountered and flew with, want even sided play. They purposely split and do their best to accomplish this. The only exception was when there was a forced country time limit, around the time an experiment with side objectives (which brought in the largest number of players).
I personally liked some elements of the experiment, but did not like the polarization and choosing sides. This is a ghost now in terms of what the AvA presently offers.
You will find that the 1 vs 1 dogfights are still there but need to be announced, to prevent countrymen from interfering. Group tactics have taken on a new meaning without enemy icons.
In short, flying solo while squads are engaging can be a disheartening experience. I invite all countrymen on squad vox, and encourage other squads to do so also. Even then, flying against skilled veteran pilots, I find myself getting shot down 8 out of 10 times. Frustrating as this can be, it gives me a chance to improve my tactics and SA, and savor my 2 out of 10 victories.
As far as complaints posted about the AvA, I surely have had my own. "Brown nosing" ...... these guys (CM team) are volunteering their time and deserve fair and respectful input pro and con. I think I know you, and think this was just a bad choice of words, especially since your input coming from one with your experience would be valued.
With that in mind, try it out again with giving the arena a clean slate, and ignore the occasional player, who is not aware of what kind of community that the AvA is trying to develop.
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this time for a different NEW group that has come in to make their own little playground........
Lol maybe that's us.
We are making the AvA our home, but we certainly aren't exclusive, we split up all the time and all we really want to do is provide enough population that people will have a reason to try it.
We started putting the squad together just before the icons were turned off.
We aren't naive, we know everything under the sun has been tried in there, but we like the arena and we'll keep trying to get it going.
As far as no icons, I don't know if it provides any more realism or if it just seems that way to me, I was never a fighter pilot in real life, I don't know what approximates realism better. Maybe as Dhyran put it, it provides a bigger "thrill".
All I can go by is the reaction of people who try it and I may be biased here and unaware of how many people it's driven away, but I, by far, hear more positive comments than negative.
Most people seem to like it,(or so it seems) even those who were initially opposed to the idea and if that is the niche market the arena finds, then that might work, who knows?
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"Brown nosing" ...... these guys (CM team) are volunteering their time and deserve fair and respectful input pro and con.
heya Chilli, I replyed to you PM....... and explained what I meant by the Sucking Up/ Brown Nosing comment.......
it has nothing to do with any Volunteering AvsA CM Staff Member... it is how I described how possibly, people in the past 10 years of coming to the AvsA to try and get their own way,
like I said, I'll come give it a try.......
with an open mind.......
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there was nothing wrong with it, and it carried itself perfectly with well known players who brought forth good battles, even balanced sides..... gv battles
Personally I think you hit the nail on the head here.
AVA was best when people just came in and flew and fought agianst each other. Before the long fued for lack of a better word that pretty much broke it's back. The past couple of years with wars and other setups have been a noble effort. However the best days were were the informal Tuesdays Thursdays and weekends when squads showed and fought it out in the arena not the BBS. No event's no orders no battle plan. It was just flying fighters, buffs or driving GVs. If we can ever get back to that hopefully we'll take better care of it next time.
Well put TC.
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Shifty,
I too, was around during Combat Theater. When CT died, which I don't see how (it happened way before anyone tried to "fix it" ) when it was only renamed - and then EW, MW, DA and TA became more popular. The fact is I think that now, it is closer to what it used to be.
Back to discussion about video settings. I am enjoying a great improvement in SA with lowest resolution and highest anistropic filtering, and antialias settings. If you are willing to try to adjust those settings, it might improve your experience.
This comes from my personal experience, and may differ with your video card or monitor size.
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Shifty,
I too, was around during Combat Theater. When CT died, which I don't see how (it happened way before anyone tried to "fix it" ) when it was only renamed - and then EW, MW, DA and TA became more popular. The fact is I think that now, it is closer to what it used to be.
I don't see it that way. Back then you could catch a fight on any night not just Tuesdays and Thursdays. Heck even Oldman was in the late war arena tonight because the AVA was empty... Covered for you OM. ;)
Back then we had squads that flew nothing but the CT/AVA and were there every week. You didn't need wars with COs, squad challenges, or pre planned missions, people came because they enjoyed it. We're no where near that yet. I do hold out hope though.
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Shifty, where is that old horse carcass gif? :D That thing was hilarious :salute brother....
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In my personal opinion the AVA with the no icon settings and sensible plane sets pitting axis against allied AC insted of allied against allied or axis against axis is far more enjoyable and immerse, Its just more exitining, with the No Icon settings than any arena AH has to offer.
For the past weeks only populated with 9-15 guys it has been action packed and has provided an elevated sim experience.
The caliber of person I have come across in there is not only mature and pleasant they are some fantastic sticks, the team work and comradely along with spirit of the arena is what siming is all about in my mind.... I will support any endever to grow the arena in hope that it will open the eyes of many that simply haven't the mind set to give it a chance at its current settings. Any simmer worth his salt couldn't help but enjoy the arena with the setting that exist in there now.... As far as I'm concerned this is what AH has been missing.
It's a shame more don't give the current settings a fair try, they truly don't know what they are missing out on...
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Shifty, where is that old horse carcass gif? :D That thing was hilarious :salute brother....
It's quite possible even it was beat to death. :aok
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Hi there!
TC, give it a try, AvA is better now, take my word for it, I never left since CT and lived all hi and lows of these years...
Back to OP: it's fantastic how the no icons brings an increased realism to the arena. I was in a fight with Chilli last night - <S> Chilli, great fight - and he was flying a dark green P-51 B (I think...). I lost him against the terrain background dozens of times! If he didnīt had those white invasion stripes on the wings I would even had a harder time looking for him! Gee, now and then I saw a white stripe flashing in the green background and I knew he was there! Tell me if he had a red icon flashing I could have had this challenge? Of course not...
Cheers,
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Shhh Sparow :uhoh
Don't give away my Romulan cloak technology secrets :lol :salute Sparow, I enjoyed the intense battles.
And early today I had some great fights with Notch, and kirza and I enjoyed some dive bombing. It was awesome to have some activity other than evenings (US time). Hope to see more folks on earlier. :salute
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Keep out the MA dweebies perhaps ? :D