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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Jayhawk on April 15, 2010, 01:44:05 PM
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So I'm starting to think about getting myself either a netbook or an iPad. I am a college student and would like something that I could use to take notes and pull out and access the internet quickly.
I don't have much experience with touchscreens, and wonder if I could adapt enough to be able to effectively type quickly. I've seen people type quickly on them and I bet I could adjust, but it's still a worry. A netbook would be slightly cheaper, but probably at a lesser quality. I'd say I'm leaning towards the iPad at this point, but its a few months away.
Any suggestions, comments? Good netbooks?
Thanks
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Netbook for sure. Check out the Asus EEE. Good batt life.
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Ipad is a toy. An expensive one, but a toy.
You want to use it for real (i.e. practical) use, laptop or netbook may be the way to go.
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Netbook. The one Spikes recommended is a solid pick, we are using some for our international field staff at work.
I previously thought the Ipad's only use was blending, (thanks to a previous BBS thread) but my friend corrected me today. It also serves to occupy the family pets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NP-AeKX40&feature=player_embedded
:lol
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No true multitasking, no printing, no this no that.... say no to ipad :)
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The iPad is a joke. Only an Apple zealot would actually waste the money on one.
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iPad is purely for consumption. Unless Apple changes them in the future the only reason you might want one is if the school you are attending publishes books and course work for the iPad and you get a big discount on books that way. The problem I have with it is that you cannot use it to create anything. You cannot share anything either. If you use it to read comics for instance you miss out on the 'collecting' aspect and with books you cannot pass it on to your friends to read next. With what I spend on books every year it would take about five years to break even on the cost of an iPad and we dont even know if it would last that long. Odds are it would not.
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The iPad is a joke. Only an Apple zealot would actually waste the money on one.
big joke and it's made even funnier with the fact that Apple is actually touting it as a mobile gaming platform as well.
ack-ack
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Well it does have one un-sung purpose... Perhaps culinary schools will be a major source for Apple sales:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSqFLYaIajc
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LOL Krusty.
Man, I bet Steve Jobs hates the comical aspect of his "genius design".
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Coming next year: The Apple kitchenware series! Looks great! Only lasts about a year before the insides fail. Requires 15 steps to initialze the blender, but once it blends it does so with excellent surround-sound quality, thanks to special harmonic forks placed inside the beaters.
(*WARRANTY VOID IF LIQUIDS OR FOODS TOUCH THE HARMONIC FORKS*)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE
Probably the funniest Apple joike to date.
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Haha, a pretty unanimous response (one for the books on these boards!). Good to know, I honestly hadn't looked into either much but these responses are great.
Appreciate it :aok
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834220652
More on the expensive side of netbooks.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152163
If you want XP.
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Try a netbook before you buy. We have a couple of the little Intel Atom-based units at work (one from Dell and one from Acer), and compared to a real computer they are very, very slow. Our users don't like them at all. YMMV
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE
Probably the funniest Apple joike to date.
:rofl Well played sir.
Try a netbook before you buy. We have a couple of the little Intel Atom-based units at work (one from Dell and one from Acer), and compared to a real computer they are very, very slow. Our users don't like them at all. YMMV
Generally a good idea, but our staff haven't complained. I'd definitely check it out either way. :aok
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I don't know.. mine whizzes along pretty quickly. It's got the Atom 1.6Ghz and runs XP Home. Only 512MB of ram even. I've heard upgrading to 2GB of ram makes all the difference on these, but i simply don't need any more for what I use it for.
I also uninstalled all the 'bloatware' that came with it (first thing I did after taking it out of the package).
I don't think I'd use it for many games, but it does actually run AH (bare minimum settings get 10-15fps LOL).
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The iPad is a joke. Only an Apple zealot would actually waste the money on one.
There are a few practical uses for it. If you're in a creative field such as photography or graphic arts they're handy for taking to meetings to show your portfolio. Iphones/pod touches have been being used for that for a while but the bigger screen on the ipad makes it much easier for presentation. There is also the "wow" factor in those cases where you need to impress people that you're up to date with the newest gadgets.
Aside from those cases though or for doing any real work... yes they're a gimmick.
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Ipad is what it is a gadget for non computer people, for video, interenet etc.
Most people see it for what it is for entertainment and emailing.
For student use it's probly limited.
If it were £30 I might buy one. :old:
Gadgets rule :banana:
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Save your pennies for one of these.
http://wimp.com/futurelaptop/ (http://wimp.com/futurelaptop/)
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There are a few practical uses for it. If you're in a creative field such as photography or graphic arts they're handy for taking to meetings to show your portfolio. Iphones/pod touches have been being used for that for a while but the bigger screen on the ipad makes it much easier for presentation. There is also the "wow" factor in those cases where you need to impress people that you're up to date with the newest gadgets.
Aside from those cases though or for doing any real work... yes they're a gimmick.
Someone tried to impress a friend I know at a meeting one day by brining one of these things to it. The interview was over in less than 2 minutes. The friend figured there was no way they would award a job to someone with more money than brains.
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... but if he'd got the job, it would have paid for itself with just that one interview ...
if you want to talk someone through your digital portfolio, what device out there would be more convenient than an iPad? (assuming you're not a flash developer that is :D)
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First of all, if you are not going to bring in a portfolio in print, you are not going to get the job anyway. A copy of the portfolio has to be left so other managers who will be involved in the hiring decision can review it.
My Wife is a Director at a commercial interior design firm. She has told her people if anyone walks in with thier portfolio or resume on one of those things (or any other like device) to not waste time interviewing them.
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First of all, if you are not going to bring in a portfolio in print, you are not going to get the job anyway. A copy of the portfolio has to be left so other managers who will be involved in the hiring decision can review it.
My Wife is a Director at a commercial interior design firm. She has told her people if anyone walks in with thier portfolio or resume on one of those things (or any other like device) to not waste time interviewing them.
I've been a corporate marketing VP for much of my career (several hundred million to multi-billion dollar companies) and, as such, have also managed internal and external ad agencies and creative personnel. As long as a portfolio is accessable via the Internet a paper copy has never been a deal breaker. Now when I need concepts delivered that's another story.
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I'd love to see a video editor walk someone through their work using paper copy :rofl
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my boss makes comedy films and sends out paper and online portfolios for his productions.
He was at the short comedy film shorts Margate 2010
his short comedy film is on Youtube "Lesley Adonis" notlob productions.
I don't know if the humor will appeal to Americans?
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I've been a corporate marketing VP for much of my career (several hundred million to multi-billion dollar companies) and, as such, have also managed internal and external ad agencies and creative personnel. As long as a portfolio is accessable via the Internet a paper copy has never been a deal breaker. Now when I need concepts delivered that's another story.
but bringing it to a meeting on an ipad means you can neither print it, nor pass it on via USB media or a media card of some type (eg SD).
ipad initially looks ok, but if you want to do more than look like an apple fanboy seperated by the apple marketing machine from some more of your $$$$... ipad ain't it.
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only an idiot would go to a meeting and then print stuff out/burn a DVD/copy files to a flash drive while the client is sitting there drumming his fingers. Like everyone else with a clue I do that beforehand on a suitable machine so I can hand it to the client at an appropriate time during the meeting. If I want to run through something with them interactively, thats the point I bring out the laptop. an iPad would fill this role perfectly for me, its just I dont have to do it that often these days so doesnt work for me bang-for-buck. if I spent my days pitching it probably would.
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I've been a corporate marketing VP for much of my career (several hundred million to multi-billion dollar companies) and, as such, have also managed internal and external ad agencies and creative personnel. As long as a portfolio is accessable via the Internet a paper copy has never been a deal breaker. Now when I need concepts delivered that's another story.
Good for you. Next time you have to deal with a city on building out a commercial property, see how far that will get you. Commercial/Interior design firms are required to provide drawings and source code for the drawings, to a city for approval. Or maybe when you sit in on a meeting discussing what materials to use for the flooring, walls, and so on, and see how far that electronic display will impress you.
Try making a display board for a commercial client on an electronic device. And when they ask what the texture of the material is like, you can whip out a sample from your briefcase. Then they will want to know what how reflective and durable the flooring is. And so on and so forth. Walk into that meeting with an eletronic device and you will lose that business. People want to see it and feel it. Interior designers make boards with all the samples on it. This is the best way to win a client.
My Wife is incredbily successful at her job. She knows how to win business. She is one of the most sought after interior designers in the D/FW area. She also loves technology and uses it where it makes sense. Try to get a job with her without a physical portfolio is not ever going to happen.
I stand by my assessment of the iPad. It is a worthless piece of technology that Apple zealots are desparately trying to find a use for. It is a joke.
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Another thing too...the iPad is just another tool to get people to buy more apps from the Apple Store. Just like the iPod is to get people to buy music from iTunes. That's all these Apple devices are far, they don't make the money on the hardware, Apple makes the money on the apps that are sold and the licensencing fees it charges developers to make and sell the apps.
ack-ack
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Good for you. Next time you have to deal with a city on building out a commercial property, see how far that will get you. Commercial/Interior design firms are required to provide drawings and source code for the drawings, to a city for approval. Or maybe when you sit in on a meeting discussing what materials to use for the flooring, walls, and so on, and see how far that electronic display will impress you.
Try making a display board for a commercial client on an electronic device. And when they ask what the texture of the material is like, you can whip out a sample from your briefcase. Then they will want to know what how reflective and durable the flooring is. And so on and so forth. Walk into that meeting with an eletronic device and you will lose that business. People want to see it and feel it. Interior designers make boards with all the samples on it. This is the best way to win a client.
My Wife is incredbily successful at her job. She knows how to win business. She is one of the most sought after interior designers in the D/FW area. She also loves technology and uses it where it makes sense. Try to get a job with her without a physical portfolio is not ever going to happen.
I stand by my assessment of the iPad. It is a worthless piece of technology that Apple zealots are desparately trying to find a use for. It is a joke.
My, aren't we touchy today.
None of those things are ever going to happen in my life. Someone said that a creative portfolio could be shown electronically. In my world that means artwork and I agree, it can. I don't need to touch or feel a graphic to know if it's going to work in an ad or a piece of marketing collateral. I need to see it to determin if it will appeal to my target audience and whether or not it fits within a larger ad and/or a brand campaign.
Frankly I think we're talking about diferent things. I was, as I said, focused on a creative portfolio, not an archetectural presentation nor was I endorsing the IPad. Rather, I was suggesting that an electronic portfolio would suffice for the purpose of making a hiring decision for a graphic designer. When the rubber meets the road though I want paper copies of art concepts so I can spread them out in front of me to make final decisions/revisions.
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Israel has blocked them from entering the country because they say the Wi-Fi is 'too strong' and overpowers local Wi-Fi. I dont get it but that shouldnt be a surprise being the tech noob that I am. I thought Wi-Fi was mostly a passive thing in receiving equipment? Not that I plan on visiting Israel but I guess there will be other countries that follow if this is true.
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only an idiot would go to a meeting and then print stuff out/burn a DVD/copy files to a flash drive while the client is sitting there drumming his fingers.
Oh really? I've been to plenty of meetings where clients have deviated significantly from they 'what we thought we wanted' and been able to give them whitepapers, technical documents, and other stuff on a USB key.
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Israel has blocked them from entering the country because they say the Wi-Fi is 'too strong' and overpowers local Wi-Fi. I dont get it but that shouldnt be a surprise being the tech noob that I am. I thought Wi-Fi was mostly a passive thing in receiving equipment? Not that I plan on visiting Israel but I guess there will be other countries that follow if this is true.
Kind of funny in the light of Apple admitting that there is an issue with the iPad's Wi-Fi being too weak.
ack-ack
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Ah, but they've bought out a way of fixing all the issues with the Ipad already.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/apple-to-fix-malfunctioning-ipad-customers-201004092628/ (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-%26-technology/apple-to-fix-malfunctioning-ipad-customers-201004092628/)
Totally safe, convenient and utterly foolproof.
:D
Wurzel
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Kind of funny in the light of Apple admitting that there is an issue with the iPad's Wi-Fi being too weak.
ack-ack
Yeah it's very odd, the USA has the one of the lower consumer power levels for wifi, plus one of the most limited ranges of frequencies.
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(http://izismile.com/img/img3/20100422/640/daily_picdump_640_high_101.jpg)
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Yes Apple has admitted to a problem with wifi losing connection and not automatically reconnecting. This is just another reason to go for second generation on devices. Laporte is reporting that he is now doing everything he did on his laptop on his ipad. Pacific Defense and a few apps that I saw looked interesting but not worth buying an ipad for.
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LOL the apple zealots were telling me there is an app (you can buy LOL) to print from an Ipad (native printing is a nice NETBOOK feature). So I thought ok, and read up on the app. Of course to print from the Ipad you need a PC (or netbook LOL) or Mac to act as a print server LOL.... WTF is the point? :D
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LOL the apple zealots were telling me there is an app (you can buy LOL) to print from an Ipad (native printing is a nice NETBOOK feature). So I thought ok, and read up on the app. Of course to print from the Ipad you need a PC (or netbook LOL) or Mac to act as a print server LOL.... WTF is the point? :D
The question is why would you want to print directly from an ipad anyway? iPad is a novelty toy best used for casual home consumer stuff.
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That's not the way apple are pitching it. All of the major apps it's pitched at have printing requirements... presentations, ebook, photo media, email, web browsing, iwork ....
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No they really are pitching it as a laptop replacement. It seems it should be possible to print from it since it has wi-fi and there are print servers that have wi-fi also (not that I use one so I dont really know how it works). Come to think of it I spend MUCH more on PCs and usually replace them long before they have paid for themselves so an iPad wouldnt be much different.
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No they really are pitching it as a laptop replacement. It seems it should be possible to print from it since it has wi-fi and there are print servers that have wi-fi also (not that I use one so I dont really know how it works). Come to think of it I spend MUCH more on PCs and usually replace them long before they have paid for themselves so an iPad wouldnt be much different.
Apple Time Capsule wireless access point hosts a print server and 1Tb hdd. Maybe Apple planned to use that for printing?
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No they really are pitching it as a laptop replacement.
They're pitching it as everything and nothing simultaneously. Apple are the snake-oil masters of the 21st century. At the end of the day a netbook with similar features and more can be had for the same price or less. So anyone who buys an ipad is a sucker for apple marketing.
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I dont think I would go that far. The iPad has got a unique approach to consumption of entertainment and one I dont really see as being in my future but since I have heard of several very intelligent people (not your typical gadget loons) say they absolutely love the iPad I have to conclude it has appeal outside of your run of the mill apple lap dogs.
Feynman always said that computers are a disease to which humans are extremely vulnerable and the less productive a program or system the more infectious it is. The computers he was talking about were programmed by switches so I guess touch screen could make it worse. :D
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The iPad has got a unique approach to consumption of entertainment
You mean with a 4:3 aspect ratio screen that doubles as a mirror and supporting a very limited amount of video standards :D
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I guess you wont know until you get your hands on one.
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Good for holding down them Papers!
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Not sure what it says about success of the device but today Wired.com announced that 26% of web accesses to their site are iPads.
Anyone know how to look that up?
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Not sure what it says about success of the device but today Wired.com announced that 26% of web accesses to their site are iPads.
Anyone know how to look that up?
25% of their MOBILE traffic is ipads, however the user agent ID can be faked. Apparently some iphone users are doing this to enable HTML5 content.
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So I'm starting to think about getting myself either a netbook or an iPad. I am a college student and would like something that I could use to take notes and pull out and access the internet quickly.
I don't have much experience with touchscreens, and wonder if I could adapt enough to be able to effectively type quickly. I've seen people type quickly on them and I bet I could adjust, but it's still a worry. A netbook would be slightly cheaper, but probably at a lesser quality. I'd say I'm leaning towards the iPad at this point, but its a few months away.
Any suggestions, comments? Good netbooks?
Thanks
You must be a KU student?
My wife is getting the IPad when she starts her P.A. degree. I guess the IPad has a lot of applications in the medical field.
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You must be a KU student?
How'd you know!? :lol
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TWiT today was demonstrating an adaptor that allows for some limited USB inputs (I think camera mic and keyboard but not a mouse). Bluetooth keyboards work of course and headphones... like I said.. limited.
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So I'm starting to think about getting myself either a netbook or an iPad. I am a college student and would like something that I could use to take notes and pull out and access the internet quickly.
I don't have much experience with touchscreens, and wonder if I could adapt enough to be able to effectively type quickly. I've seen people type quickly on them and I bet I could adjust, but it's still a worry. A netbook would be slightly cheaper, but probably at a lesser quality. I'd say I'm leaning towards the iPad at this point, but its a few months away.
Any suggestions, comments? Good netbooks?
Thanks
unless you only have one lecture a day you really need to think about battery life too, anything less than 6-8 hours will be a real pain in the long run. I think some netbooks can almost do this, but almost isnt good enough if you're halfway through a lecture and you cant take notes any more. also bear in mind that the battery capacity starts to drop off as soon as you start recharging cycles, you may well have lost an hour or so after a years use.
I'd consider a proper laptop as well as the other options. doesnt have to be a 20lb, 17" widescreen, oc'd GPU, 1h battery life, "gamers" laptop - just something powerful enough to run what you need with 13-15" screen, decent battery life and as light as possible.
where I do agree with Jobs is that for most people, netbooks are just laptops with too many compromises to be really useful. however, theres certainly plenty of applications where a netbook can be ideal, in the same way that the iPad (apple hopes) will have niches where it is the best solution.
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Interesting reading so far....
The single biggest point that is largely unabsorbed is that the ipad is not really a computer in the traditional sense. It's primary conceptual point is the evolution of connectivity not computation per se. So it's not really meant to replace a laptop or netbook but to offer an alternative with a specific alternative functionality.
So all of the comments are a bit off in that sense. The value that the ipad offers is currently marginal and in a few years my guess is that apple overall will join AOL as an MBA case study in how not to grow and prosper but without doubt the iphone and ipad have brought cloud based architecture to the mainstream. While true traction is still a few years off within a relatively short time frame we'll see the migration to mainstream cloud-based OS deployment.
All the talk about what the thing will and won't do is akin to folks in 1895 talking about why a horse is so much better then an automobile. The flip side is that 99% of the population can't even tell you who the 1st production manufacturer of automobiles (in US) was (Durea 1896). Maybe a few more know that the 1st gasoline powered production vehicle was actually Oldsmobile (1904). Yet if you ask most will tell you Henry Ford built the 1st cars. BTW Ransom Olds also built their 1st electric automobile in 1899 and in 1899 & 1900 more electric cars were sold then gas powered models with the Columbia (built by American Bicycle Company) being the most popular car sold in America in 1900.
So don't view the ipad based on what it does now but what its started, personally I'd wait for an android based version to appear or potentially something like the slate...but the real momentum will be toward android/ubuntu IMO.
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How'd you know!? :lol
Well, either KU or Haskell Indian Nations University, and i do not think you are Native American. Besides, i lived in Kansas too and been at KU a few times.
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So it's not really meant to replace a laptop or netbook but to offer an alternative with a specific alternative functionality.
No, it's really meant to replace the netbook and laptops, at least that's how Apple is marketing it. Personally, I think Job's motivation with it is to sell more apps since that's where the money is. Like the iPod and iPhone, Apple makes more money off the sales of apps and licensing than it does off the hardware it sells.
ack-ack
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Well, either KU or Haskell Indian Nations University, and i do not think you are Native American. Besides, i lived in Kansas too and been at KU a few times.
Well yes, college student in Lawrence, KS. Did my name give a hint as well?
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Ack-ack got it right I think. iPad is intended to empty your bank account $10 at a time or even more in the case of subscriptions.
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Capitalism :cry
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I wouldnt say its a bad thing for guys making apps. :D
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Interesting reading so far....
The single biggest point that is largely unabsorbed is that the ipad is not really a computer in the traditional sense. It's primary conceptual point is the evolution of connectivity not computation per se. So it's not really meant to replace a laptop or netbook but to offer an alternative with a specific alternative functionality.
So all of the comments are a bit off in that sense. The value that the ipad offers is currently marginal and in a few years my guess is that apple overall will join AOL as an MBA case study in how not to grow and prosper but without doubt the iphone and ipad have brought cloud based architecture to the mainstream. While true traction is still a few years off within a relatively short time frame we'll see the migration to mainstream cloud-based OS deployment.
All the talk about what the thing will and won't do is akin to folks in 1895 talking about why a horse is so much better then an automobile. The flip side is that 99% of the population can't even tell you who the 1st production manufacturer of automobiles (in US) was (Durea 1896). Maybe a few more know that the 1st gasoline powered production vehicle was actually Oldsmobile (1904). Yet if you ask most will tell you Henry Ford built the 1st cars. BTW Ransom Olds also built their 1st electric automobile in 1899 and in 1899 & 1900 more electric cars were sold then gas powered models with the Columbia (built by American Bicycle Company) being the most popular car sold in America in 1900.
So don't view the ipad based on what it does now but what its started, personally I'd wait for an android based version to appear or potentially something like the slate...but the real momentum will be toward android/ubuntu IMO.
Sorry but you've been drinking the kool-aid humble. Apples spin is what you're saying, however the alternative to specific functionality? What exactly? It's not the best browser, media player, or any other app. That would be fine if it were competitively priced to reflect that, but it isn't. It's not really ground breaking tech, slates have been around for ages, and a range of slate/convertable netbooks were released ahead of the ipad.
As for cloud based infrastructure? Bollocks. The only cloud thing is the store, which I'm not sure is good thing given apples moves towards restrictions on app development and more importantly content.
The ipad and it's marketing is a pile of contradictions...
apple say hey look it plays media - people say but it's 4:3, has a shiny screen, and can't play MKV files - apple say oh but it's not supposed to be a media player replacement
apple say hey look it's a great portable browser - people say but it doesn't support flash or java - apple say oh but it's not supposed to be a web browser replacement
apple say hey look it's got iwork - people say but it can't print directly to a printer - apple say oh but it's not really for editing and creating documents
and the list goes on. Every single thing it does it does NOT do well. Nor does it do it at a competitive price.
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wth is MKV? :headscratch:
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Well yes, college student in Lawrence, KS. Did my name give a hint as well?
Yea, jayhawk, lawrence and you mention that you are a student.
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wth is MKV? :headscratch:
popular format for hi def video's (ie blueray ripped to h.264).
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Sorry but you've been drinking the kool-aid humble. Apples spin is what you're saying, however the alternative to specific functionality? What exactly? It's not the best browser, media player, or any other app. That would be fine if it were competitively priced to reflect that, but it isn't. It's not really ground breaking tech, slates have been around for ages, and a range of slate/convertable netbooks were released ahead of the ipad.
As for cloud based infrastructure? Bollocks. The only cloud thing is the store, which I'm not sure is good thing given apples moves towards restrictions on app development and more importantly content.
The ipad and it's marketing is a pile of contradictions...
apple say hey look it plays media - people say but it's 4:3, has a shiny screen, and can't play MKV files - apple say oh but it's not supposed to be a media player replacement
apple say hey look it's a great portable browser - people say but it doesn't support flash or java - apple say oh but it's not supposed to be a web browser replacement
apple say hey look it's got iwork - people say but it can't print directly to a printer - apple say oh but it's not really for editing and creating documents
and the list goes on. Every single thing it does it does NOT do well. Nor does it do it at a competitive price.
You couldn't be more wrong. 1st and foremost I think apple in general has it all backwards. However they are paving the way for quantum changes...
As I said it's not a tablet/slate in the sense of a windows tablet (I've used a R15-S822 since it 1st came out) and I certainly wouldn't buy or recommend one (ipad). In 3 years apple will be an afterthought in both the smartphone and "slate" markets but the markets themselfs will be exceptionally strong.
It's not what the ipad does or doesn't do that matters but what it will lead to....
As for cloud based being "bullocks" then your uneducated or clueless on the subject but much more will be outside of various NDA's in another 6 months or so...
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As for cloud based being "bullocks" then your uneducated or clueless on the subject but much more will be outside of various NDA's in another 6 months or so...
LOL this should be good :)
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Everything is 'going cloud' now even Microsoft Office in Windows 7 which makes use of SkyDrive.
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I found Job's comments about the lack of flash support on their products is due to as he claims, "the #1 reason for Mac crashes is due to Flash".
ack-ack
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Does anyone like Flash? Jobs doesnt like it Thurrott doesnt like it Dvorak doesnt miss it...
Having actually touched a used an iPad now (I dont feel dirty either) I have to say it does have its uses. Bookreading which I thought would be its ultimate use is out because its just too heavy to use while in bed. It could come in handy for LONG airline rides when you have to have something (anything) to keep you busy and not bored to death. But I think its best use would be to use for browsing the internet for subjects that come to you while attending meetings or school classes or watching TV. It certainly wont fit in at church and a lot of employers might fire you for over using one at a meeting and schools might confiscate the thing if you browse the wrong subjects or something. So TV browsing/shopping is probably where it belongs.
Apple should add a universal remote app and then its all good.
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I might agree that Flash sucks but to claim that it's the #1 reason why it makes your OS crash, at least to me, says more about the OS than Flash.
ack-ack
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But Mac's "just work" ack-ack :D
Flash isn't perfect, but it fills a need.
The funny thing is all the cultee's claiming HTML5 and Java will negate the need for flash.... cept the ipad/iphone don't support java LOL. I wonder when steve will make his 'java sucks' speech?
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Apple should add a universal remote app and then its all good.
No IR on the i-whatsits though :D unlike my treo... (I have an IR remote app, plus a bluetooth one for controlling presso's on my PC, had em for 6 years or so).
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IR is outmoded these days. TVs need Wi-Fi control.
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I heard a Talk Show host say today he couldn't wait to get home and "play" with his iPad. I thought the choice of words coincided with some of the posts here.
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IR is outmoded these days. TVs need Wi-Fi control.
I can't wait for steve jobs to tell the world TV IR remotes are dead and iphones will only support wiif remotes going forward :D
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Ha! They would probably buy into it.
@Getback: Was that Boortz? I heard him say the same thing.
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personally Im very interested of iPad, even if it has some drawbacks. BUT it is interesting machine...
http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2010/04/ipad-review.ars/
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Who is the Terminator for? :D
http://laxina.net/imagevue.php#/content/animation/1t600.flv/
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Ha! They would probably buy into it.
@Getback: Was that Boortz? I heard him say the same thing.
Staying away from #14 :lol :lol
I'd say he/they/she were paid.
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It's getting better, people are starting to test HTML5 on the ipad, going by Almighty Steve's logic the ipad should NOT support HTML5 either :D
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Well Ruppert Murdoch is saying the iPad could very well turn around newspapers that are losing tons of money and make them profitable again. More than one million units sold and already Murdoch is pulling in more dough anyway. The cost is nothing compared with the profit and significantly less than printing costs. What I cant figure out is why the Nook or Kindle wasnt doing the same thing for him.
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Get a propper Notebook, far more useful unless your looking to impress at a local cafe with the rest of the Apple fanboys.. IPad is nothing more then another over priced useless apple tax.
<S>...-Gixer
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It's getting better, people are starting to test HTML5 on the ipad, going by Almighty Steve's logic the ipad should NOT support HTML5 either :D
this makes no sense at all. one of the reasons apple has stated for not wanting to allow flash plugins for the iPhone OS browser is that HTML5 can replicate most of the flash plugin functionality natively without adding another application layer. jobs stated this in the iPad launch months ago. you also make it sound like using HTML5 is some kind of user hack, whereas WebKit has had some parts of HTML5 implemented for ages (HTML5 isnt even a standard yet btw). Out of all the engines WebKit has the best support for HTML5 so far, so I think we can assume that apple likes HTML5.
The funny thing is all the cultee's claiming HTML5 and Java will negate the need for flash.... cept the ipad/iphone don't support java LOL. I wonder when steve will make his 'java sucks' speech?
java on iPhone OS? :huh jobs has already stated - no VMs on iPhone OS. java is no different from flash in this respect, both VMs which run platform agnostic bytecode. as a user why would you even want to run java or flash apps on a low powered device when a natively written app will be much faster and much more stable? personally I dont even want to run java or flash apps on a quad core desktop for this reason.
edit: btw steve doesnt need to make a "java sucks" speech - that would just be stating the obvious :D
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Isnt that the reason that Chrome is the fastest growing browser (WebKit)?
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I'd say its more because Google are pushing it hard on the back of their search dominance, halo effect if u like. however webkit is fast, compliant and open source, so that certainly helps :)
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No... they are the fastest growing because they are the smallest (most to gain). The surprising thing is that IE6 is still in widespread use (maybe not so surprising considering the world market as a whole). Sometime this summer Chrome should overtake IE8 which is still not as accepted for some reason. Will IE9 be as slow to be adopted as IE8 has been?
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this makes no sense at all. one of the reasons apple has stated for not wanting to allow flash plugins for the iPhone OS browser is that HTML5 can replicate most of the flash plugin functionality natively without adding another application layer. jobs stated this in the iPad launch months ago. you also make it sound like using HTML5 is some kind of user hack, whereas WebKit has had some parts of HTML5 implemented for ages (HTML5 isnt even a standard yet btw). Out of all the engines WebKit has the best support for HTML5 so far, so I think we can assume that apple likes HTML5.
Job's doesn't like Flash due to performance and stability. Yet the HTML5 performance tests on the ipad so far have been mediocre. On the back of this we have rumours of apple developing their own flash alternative. There has been an underlying rumour that the lack of flash support on iphone/ipad has been due to apple wanting to be able to tightly control content delivery (especially advertising) - and it seems to be coming true. Why didn't apple give users the choice to turn flash on or off?
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lol wtf is the point of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wklrVOFMKA
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Isnt the original definition of 'Hacker?' To do something because you can and because you arent supposed to? I mean before the idiots writing for newspapers made 'hacker' a name for criminals only.
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lol wtf is the point of this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wklrVOFMKA
There were keyboards out for treos and Palm PDA's years back. They were very useful.
I can take my treo all over and have full email access. Just like the iphone and ipad. But sometimes you want to whack out a long email, then those keyboards would be very useful. Typing on a screen is rubbish. I can't believe Apple don't allow bluetooth keyboards or mice to pair with iphones/ipads. If they did you could travel without a laptop/netbook. But as it is they force the need.
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You can pair it with bluetooth keyboards... as long as its Apples at least.
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a rare open letter from jobs:
steves thoughts on flash (http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/)
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Judge orders unsealing of affidavit :
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9FMPN901&show_article=1
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Im typing this with my new iPad. Sold my mini laptop away few weeks ago and must say that ipad is much much better.