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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Mano on April 20, 2010, 04:32:53 PM
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The current planes in WWI are outstanding. This is the best damage model I have seen to date.
I hope more planes are added down the road.
The next four planes for the WWI arena should include the following:
Halberstadt CL2, Albatros DVa, SE5a, and the Spad XIII. I believe these planes
would all be viable with the current line up. On any given night you typically see all of the current planes
being used. These four would offer a bigger variety of fighting styles. The SE5a and Spad XIII are excellent
BnZ planes.
If any of you think another set would better compliment the current planes.......please leave a post.
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Mano
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Yep, considering the planes WWI arena has now, those are IMO the best choises for the next four planes.
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Doubling the planeset would help to draw in numbers. :aok
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Doubling the planeset would help to draw in numbers. :aok
i agree :aok
i know little about WWI aircraft, but the first thing that came to mind when the WWI arenas were released was "why no Spad XIII??!"
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I would agree with that plane set.
Would work well with what we already have.
And would add those the majority are asking for.
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A well thought out addition which would balance the current lineup very nicely for AvA :pray The Halberstadt CL2 vs the F2b, the Albatros DVa matches the SE5a, and the Spad XIII balances with the DVII. Already matched are the Camel and the DR1 ; yeah right lol. Oh well, war is hell.... and realism is heaven.
I can't think of a better addition :aok
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Good choice, Mano, ya ol' Pigstomper. I miss my SE5a 'Old Scotch'.
Personally, I'd also enjoy flying some of the earlier types; a '1915-16' planeset to complement the '1917-1918' one. DH2 and FE2b v. Fokker E.III Eindekker and Roland C.II or the Albatros C.III. Mmmmmm . . . . be tricky modelling the Poor Bloody Observer's gun(s) though (especially the Fee's), see the earlier thread on that.
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Doubling the planeset would help to draw in numbers. :aok
I doubt it. Not without a more meaningful world for them to bother flying in.
:aok on the Spad. That has always been one of my WWI favorites.
Wab
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Nice choice of AC to add to WWI. :aok
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Hi guys
i always enjoyed the Spad 7 myself,
im hoping they add plenty more planes and vehicles over time like the ww2 arenas have, has there been any confermation of more planes and vehicles comming?
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i agree and dissagree at the same time...
i would say these:
Albatross Dva - twin, synchronous machine guns set the standard for other German and Allied fighters. By the end of 1916, increased production of the Albatros gave Germany numerical superiority in the air
neuport 17 - helping end Germany's domination of the air war, the Nieuport 17 easily outclimbed and outperformed the Fokker E.III.
spad S.XIII - it was fast and powerful but difficult to fly. The SPAD XIII was flown by many of the famous aces including Georges Guynemer and Eddie Rickenbacker.
Pfalz D.IIIa - helped revive Germany's air superiority over the Allies. Compared to its contemporary rivals, the Pfalz D.III was not a great fighter, but it was very fast in a dive
so well get a german plane that cant dive, a french plane thats difficult to fly, a french plane thats pretty good, and a german plane that CAN dive.
would help make furballs more interesting
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NICE PLANES. BUT, DID YOU SEE THAT BIG TANK!!!???
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Excellent post The4ork. I know you put allot of time and thought into selecting those four planes.
I did some reading on the Pfalz D.IIIa and it did serve time at the front line between 1917 and 1918.
It appears it's best feature is the ability to dive w/o tearing off the wings(BnZ)......especially when balloon
busting. The "a" model had a more powerful engine and the guns were reset to a better position
so the pilot would be able to unjam them during flight. I cut and pasted some info from Wikipedia.
I hope HiTech saves this post for whenever they can add more planes.
I would like to see a diversity of planes being flown in the WWI arena.....as do we all. Different flying
styles and methods of attack make the sim more entertaining......addicting too. :) That's why we fly the ol' kites.
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Mano
Operational history
Pfalz D.IIIa (serial 4203/17) of Jasta 30
Pfalz D.IIIa (serial 8413/17) displaying hastily applied Balkenkreuz markings
Deliveries to operational units began in August 1917. Jasta 10 was the first recipient of the new aircraft, followed by Jasta 4. While markedly better than the earlier Roland designs, the D.III was generally considered inferior to the Albatros D.III and D.V. German pilots variously criticized the Pfalz’s heavy controls, low speed, lack of power, or low rate of climb compared to the Albatros.[5][8][9] The D.III slipped in turns, leading to crashes when unwary pilots turned at very low altitudes.[5][10] Moreover, the Pfalz stalled sharply and spun readily. Recovery from the resulting flat spin was difficult, though some pilots took advantage of this trait to descend quickly or evade enemy aircraft.[11]
The Pfalz’s primary advantage was its strength and sturdiness. The Albatros scouts were plagued by failure of their single-spar lower wings.[12] The Pfalz, however, could safely dive at high speeds due to its twin-spar lower wing.[3][13] For this reason, the Pfalz was well-suited to diving attacks on observation balloons, which were usually heavily defended by anti-aircraft guns trained to the balloon's altitude.[14]
[edit] D.IIIa
The most pressing complaint about the new Pfalz was that the guns were buried in the fuselage, preventing pilots from clearing gun jams in flight.[4] This feature had been carried over from the earlier Roland designs.[7] In November 1917, Pfalz responded by producing the slightly modified D.IIIa, which relocated the guns to the upper fuselage decking.[4] The D.IIIa was distinguishable by its enlarged semicircular horizontal stabilizer and cropped lower wingtips.[4] It also featured a more powerful version of the Mercedes D.III engine.
Pfalz built approximately 260 D.III and 750 D.IIIa aircraft.[7] Most were delivered to Bavarian Jastas.[15] Once Pfalz completed the final batch in May 1918,[16] production shifted to the D.IIIa's successor, the D.XII. Some aircraft from the final D.IIIa batch were delivered to Turkey.[16]
As of 30 April 1918, 433 D.IIIa scouts were still in frontline use.[17] By 31 August, that number had declined to 166.[17] Many serviceable aircraft were sent to advanced training schools, but approximately 100 aircraft remained in frontline use at the time of the Armistice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfalz_D.III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfalz_D.III)
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Mano:
Thanks for getting the wish list going. I am with ASP...like the Spad 7. It does not exactly match up with another plane - as most of your additions are well-though-out paired matches.
The 7 is a plane that can fly as well, in intense turn fights, as any of the planes. While it is not the shooting platform of the Dr, it is much better in vertical moves and can turn with the Dr.
If they ever develop an arena with the full strat game...true bombers would be fun, the Gotha and Hanley.
We would hope the fm for the 13 would allow that excess speed to be maintained...old favorite for loon busting and extending through a fur ball with lots of tagged cons. And give it that special throaty sound purring sound...I like it LOL.
If the additions are confined to four planes, well paired for game play, yours is a great suggestion...
Just don't forget the poor little 7, and someday the bombers.
One
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I'd rather see the pfalz than the albatross
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The current planes in WWI are outstanding. This is the best damage model I have seen to date.
I hope more planes are added down the road.
The next four planes for the WWI arena should include the following:
Halberstadt CL2, Albatros DVa, SE5a, and the Spad XIII. I believe these planes
would all be viable with the current line up. On any given night you typically see all of the current planes
being used. These four would offer a bigger variety of fighting styles. The SE5a and Spad XIII are excellent
BnZ planes.
If any of you think another set would better compliment the current planes.......please leave a post.
<S>
Mano
Hmm this line up sounds all too familiar, I like it :aok
The Albatross with its sleek lines is a big favorite of mine. Would love to fly it with the current FM here.
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The Spad and the Se5 both being faster would help balance the Dr1.
And as soon as I have an albatross to play with I'll stop flying the Dr1.
Surely I can't be the only one to feel that way?
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yeah ive been making due with the f2b. its pretty respectable when flown correctly (no HO then run and gun, thats for sissies) but id really really like to see a nieuport or spad or se5a
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Definately a step in the right direction. Hopefully they can add the Albatross and SE5a immediately. The need to bring the Dr1 under control is strong.
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"Albatross Dva - twin, synchronous machine guns set the standard for other German and Allied fighters. By the end of 1916, increased production of the Albatros gave Germany numerical superiority in the air"
It was the Albatros D.I and D.II variants that 'set the standard' during 1916. There were better fighters in service with the Allies by the time the D.Va appeared. Germany never 'enjoyed numerical superiority in the air' during WW1 except when their aircraft were specifically concentrated against local opposition; methinks you mean 'technical superiority'?
Have to agree with you on including the Albatros D-types, no self-respecting WW1 combat flight sim can call itself such unless they're included. Or the SE5a and SPAD 13 for the Allies.
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Good list but I'd switch the Halberstadt CL2 for the Neuport (sp) 17.
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im all for the addition of the four more ww1 planes, the arena needs more diversity...
~slayer~