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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FireDrgn on April 21, 2010, 04:31:51 PM
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Getting the M4A3 76mm S othats two tanks now wonder if there is naythign else comming :airplane:
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Pershing II (US tank comparable to Tiger) :pray
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Great, more tanks... they do look fantastic though.
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Awesome! More of anything is better than nothing, still think we will see the Ki-43 and updated A6M with these soon. :pray
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YAK3
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not bad.
(http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/images/m4a3_76mm/m4a3761.jpg)
But bronk want
(http://www.olive-drab.com/images/id_m4a3e8_4id_pettit_106_20051202_700.jpg)
M4A3E8
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My question is besides the rockets what are we getting that the Firefly doesnt do? Im going to take a guess and say they are going to raise the perk on the FireFly...
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Woot woot! :banana: :aok :)
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Is the Firefly enabled in MW? If not, you will prob. see these Shermans there to help fill out the playset. Also scenarios, snapshots & other historical events will benefit from having these two models.
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Just so we're clear......... The American M4 is nothing like the Firefly. Two almost completely different medium tanks....... From armor protection, power/weight ratio, ordinance, suspension, engine, and so on.
My question is besides the rockets what are we getting that the Firefly doesnt do? Im going to take a guess and say they are going to raise the perk on the FireFly...
75mm, not 76............ Right? M4a3, 75mm
EDIT........ 76mm it is.................
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My question is besides the rockets what are we getting that the Firefly doesnt do? Im going to take a guess and say they are going to raise the perk on the FireFly...
unperkied sherman is better than the firefly and i know that ill be using these babies more than the pnzrIVH :D
i really hope they up perk the firefly darnit, that thing is used way too much in the LW arenas... The 75mm and 76mm Shermans encountered the Tiger MUCH more than the firefly did... and i cant wait for those gvers being surprised when they say... "oh just another 76mm M4A3. (BANG) ...ow...that was a firefly huh?"
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USRanger wouldn't DOB be fun with the proper tanks? :D Maybe we'll get a remolded M3/M16.
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Hmm, makes you wonder if it is an optional load out rather than two tanks......
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Hmm, makes you wonder if it is an optional load out rather than two tanks......
do you mean the 76mm and 75mm versions?
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USRanger wouldn't DOB be fun with the proper tanks? :D Maybe we'll get a remolded M3/M16.
Yep, would've came in handy the last run. Many new possibilities will be opening up now without the need for improper substitutions. :aok
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unperkied sherman is better than the firefly and i know that ill be using these babies more than the pnzrIVH :D
i really hope they up perk the firefly darnit, that thing is used way too much in the LW arenas... The 75mm and 76mm Shermans encountered the Tiger MUCH more than the firefly did... and i cant wait for those gvers being surprised when they say... "oh just another 76mm M4A3. (BANG) ...ow...that was a firefly huh?"
I'm wondering how hard its going to be for most people (including me) to differentiate all 3 different American tank models; especially at long range. When you get a kill credit, you don't know the type of the plane/tank you shot down and this could lead to some extra care required on your part because of the resemblance... probably some misjudgement and armor issues as well, like always.
I never thought it would come to this, but changing a standard kill message like "You have shot down Lepape2 #99" to --> "You have shot down Lepape2 driving an M4A3 75 #100" is starting to come to mind now. :)
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As I sit here and type this....................... I want to yell to you "We don't have ANY American tanks right now"
I'm wondering how hard its going to be for most people (including me) to differentiate all 3 different American tank models; especially at long range. When you get a kill credit, you don't know the type of the plane/tank you shot down and this could lead to some extra care required on your part because of the resemblance... probably some misjudgement and armor issues as well, like always.
I never thought it would come to this, but changing a standard kill message like "You have shot down Lepape2 #99" to --> "You have shot down Lepape2 driving an M4A3 75 #100" is starting to come to mind now. :)
The homepage is wrong. Firefly is British / Canadian.
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Pershing II (US tank comparable to Tiger) :pray
Super Pershing would be nice with the 90mm main gun but with only 3 being deployed in the ETO and seeing service, I don't think we'll get that one.
ack-ack
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As I sit here and type this....................... I want to yell to you "We don't have ANY American tanks right now"
The homepage is wrong. Firefly is British / Canadian.
:aok
Super Pershing would be nice with the 90mm main gun but with only 3 being deployed in the ETO and seeing service, I don't think we'll get that one.
ack-ack
just give us the Pershing I
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As I sit here and type this....................... I want to yell to you "We don't have ANY American tanks right now"
The homepage is wrong. Firefly is British / Canadian.
Thanks for the correction. My knowledge of tanks is near abysmal. They still look alike to the untrained eye. :cool:
:salute
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yeaaa, another GV for me to kill in my P-47
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I'm wondering how hard its going to be for most people (including me) to differentiate all 3 different American tank models; especially at long range. When you get a kill credit, you don't know the type of the plane/tank you shot down and this could lead to some extra care required on your part because of the resemblance... probably some misjudgement and armor issues as well, like always.
I never thought it would come to this, but changing a standard kill message like "You have shot down Lepape2 #99" to --> "You have shot down Lepape2 driving an M4A3 75 #100" is starting to come to mind now. :)
Why would it matter which Sherman you killed? Ded is ded.
wrongway
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My question is besides the rockets what are we getting that the Firefly doesnt do? Im going to take a guess and say they are going to raise the perk on the FireFly...
M4A3 76mm will be LWA only, so far as I recall service dates.
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This continues to make me hopeful that the perked loadout system is on the way...
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do you mean the 76mm and 75mm versions?
If you look closely, you'll see the 76mm has a completely different turret than the 75mm.
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If you look closely, you'll see the 76mm has a completely different turret than the 75mm.
this is what i was thinking too i was just questioning the other person's post
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Don't ignore it.... E8 dagnabit. :D
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yeaaa, another GV for me to kill in my P-47
^ THIS
<-- Loves the ch 200 whines when I egg the spawncampers with 1000lbers from the N-Jug :devil
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75mm Sherman, 76mm Sherman; can the 105mm sherman be far away?
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75mm Sherman, 76mm Sherman; can the 105mm sherman be far away?
I hope not.
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From what I understand the 105 wasn't really that effective of an anti-tank weapon. It mainly turned the Sherman into self-propelled artillery. Although maybe that IS why people want it....
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From what I understand the 105 wasn't really that effective of an anti-tank weapon. It mainly turned the Sherman into self-propelled artillery. Although maybe that IS why people want it....
What, never hear of a HEAT round?
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Those tanks did not have the HEAT round in WWII, and that is not the same M-68 105mm main gun that is on the M-48A5's, M-60's model and M1-IP models.
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Those tanks did not have the HEAT round in WWII, and that is not the same M-68 105mm main gun that is on the M-48A5's, M-60's model and M1-IP models.
Quite a few tanks and field guns in WWII had HEAT rounds -- including the 105mm armed Sherman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_explosive_anti-tank_warhead
A note about their introduction:
In mid-1940 Germany introduced the first HEAT round to be fired by a gun, the 7.5 cm Gr. 38 fired by the 7.5 cm Kw.K. of the Panzer IV tank and the Stug-III self propelled gun. In mid-1941 the first HEAT rifle-grenade (issued to paratroopers) and the improved 7.5 cm Gr. 38 Hl/A design followed. In 1942 Germany started the production of HEAT rifle-grenades for regular army units and introduced another improved design, the Gr. 38 Hl/B. In 1943 finally the Püppchen, Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck were introduced together with the design of the Gr. 38 HL/C.
Scroll down a bit on this link and find a note where it is quoting
"U.S. Army Test No.2
Firing Tests conducted 12-30 July 1944 by 1st U.S. Army in Normandy.
REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS OF BOARD OF OFFICERS"
http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/ww2-general/pzkpfw-v-panther-its-variants-14571-9.html
My search for the original document has failed in the time my limited patience has allotted, but here is the relevant part of the report . . .
9) 105mm Howitzer, M4, mounted on Medium Tank, M4
HEAT M67 will penetrate front glacis slope plate and gun mantlet at 500 yards (see assumption made in paragraph 1c).
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Quite a few tanks and field guns in WWII had HEAT rounds -- including the 105mm armed Sherman.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_explosive_anti-tank_warhead
A note about their introduction:
I read nothing in your wiki link that indicates the sherman 105 of WWII carried heat rounds???? As far as I am aware the sherman 105 was an infantry support tank, utilized for taking out bunkers and MG pillboxes, some later varients also carried a flame thrower I think.
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I read nothing in your wiki link that indicates the sherman 105 of WWII carried heat rounds???? As far as I am aware the sherman 105 was an infantry support tank, utilized for taking out bunkers and MG pillboxes, some later varients also carried a flame thrower I think.
See my latest modification above. Do your own search for the M67 HEAT round used with the US 105mm howitzers. I'm going to bed. :aok
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The 105mm Sherman was not meant to shoot other tanks. It was used by HQ companies to provide indirect and direct fire support. Same 105mm Howitzer as on the M7 Priest. In tank units the M7 was considered too vulnerable due to the open top so the 105 Sherman was used instead.
I kind of think we ought to wait til we get these two new Shermans before we start asking for more though. Seems like the 76mm gunned Sherman might do quite well. And the early 75mm gunned Sherman sure opens the door for more scenario options in particular if we get some other German armor to go with it. The skinners ought to have a great time with all the options for paint schemes on the 75mm gunned Sherman, in particular if HTC allows M4, M4A2 and M4A4 variants to be skinned on the M4A3 so that both US and other Allied Shermans can be done.
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The 105mm Sherman was not meant to shoot other tanks. It was used by HQ companies to provide indirect and direct fire support. Same 105mm Howitzer as on the M7 Priest. In tank units the M7 was considered too vulnerable due to the open top so the 105 Sherman was used instead.
I kind of think we ought to wait til we get these two new Shermans before we start asking for more though. Seems like the 76mm gunned Sherman might do quite well. And the early 75mm gunned Sherman sure opens the door for more scenario options in particular if we get some other German armor to go with it. The skinners ought to have a great time with all the options for paint schemes on the 75mm gunned Sherman, in particular if HTC allows M4, M4A2 and M4A4 variants to be skinned on the M4A3 so that both US and other Allied Shermans can be done.
Since we're getting the M4A3 75mm I'd actually love to see a small PnzrIII added now before the M-18 :aok
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Update the Panzer IV H and add the Panzer IV D.
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Update the Panzer IV H and add the Panzer IV D.
Update the jeep.
(http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/selfpropelledguns/usspg-Jeep-37mm.jpg)
:noid
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Update the jeep.
(http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/selfpropelledguns/usspg-Jeep-37mm.jpg)
:noid
:rofl somehow whenever i see your profile pic and something like this it just makes things even funnier bronk :aok
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http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56118 (http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56118)
link to 105mm heat test recap in 7/44
This site appears to indicate that the 105 had some HEAT rounds as part of the standard loadout...
[url] http://www.strijdbewijs.nl/tanks/sherman/eng.htm/url]
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Great, more tanks... they do look fantastic though.
Kazaa can you believe over the past 2 weeks I've become addicted to tanks. For the first 14 months I never set foot in a tank now look :rofl
I got 54 hours just in tanks this tour crazy.