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Title: p-38
Post by: jimmiet on December 01, 1999, 08:45:00 PM
i would love to see the p38 in ah cuz it is 1 of my fav planes my grandpa(who flew his own plane in wwII said that the p-38 was used through most of the war i like the idea of rare planes but i want my p38 also it was a cool plane i also wouldnt mind seeing a b24 liborator in there either
Title: p-38
Post by: Nath-BDP on December 02, 1999, 04:05:00 AM
plz lern english beter becuz i cant understood a wurd u sey!

tankz alot
Title: p-38
Post by: Fishu on December 02, 1999, 04:51:00 AM
Nath: wan't to buy one of my CRC-2000 talk-error-check module?
At least I understood what he said :P

About P-38, I wouldn't mind see all of allied uber planes here.. uh uh..
(<mumble> wheres my He162 or even Me262 uber LW plane)
Title: p-38
Post by: gatt on December 02, 1999, 07:11:00 AM

Uh? There are non rare a/c here. What we get in AH are "new" a/c or variants like the C.205, the G-10, the N1K2, the F4U-1D or the incoming Marauder.
I'm sure we'll see the P38 (J-type, I guess) some more bombers and maybe the P47D.
Then I'm sure we'll step back to 1942-43 fighters. And then to the 1940-41 plane set.

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Title: p-38
Post by: juzz on December 02, 1999, 07:26:00 AM
Nath: Don't trust Fishu and his CRC-2000 device; look at this word he wrote - wan't - obviously it doesn't work correctly, or Fishu doesn't trust it enough to use it himself.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

So hows about after the B-26 Maruader, maybe a Tempest V or Ju188?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: p-38
Post by: gatt on December 02, 1999, 08:53:00 AM

Yeah, I forgot to mention the Typhoon or Tempest ... uhmmmm .... great!

Title: p-38
Post by: Vermillion on December 02, 1999, 09:41:00 AM
Now now....

Lets not forget the P-63C KingCobra in VVS markings!!

1.)Never done in a sim before
2.)Qualify's as both a "Soviet" bird and a "US bird"
3.) Also makes also those BFG type guys really happy (like me).

And for arena fighting it should knock off the P-51 as the king O' da Heap (at least at arena altitudes).

Of course a Typhoon/Tempest might very well do the same.



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Vermillion
WB's: (verm--), **MOL**, Men of Leisure,
"Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires ;) "
Title: p-38
Post by: gatt on December 02, 1999, 10:25:00 AM

Really the KingCobra can beat a Pony? Can you provide some performance figures Verm?

And who keep Leonid quiet if another kite with VVS marking enters the arena? I'm really worried about that ...  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: p-38
Post by: -kier- on December 02, 1999, 01:43:00 PM
As far as level speed is concerned, I believe I have read numbers that back up Verm. I'll see what I can find...
Title: p-38
Post by: Fishu on December 02, 1999, 03:47:00 PM
P38, P47, P63, Typhoon, Marauder, Tempest... wait a minute, wheres all non-brit/US plane?
If we get all these, wheres my Dora or Ta152 with what to fight against them?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Oh, btw. you guys ever knew about P38s engine freezing problem at higher altitudes, and given restrictions for maximum altitude?
What I remember J still suffered of those but L was now better made for cold...
Hehe, would love to see P38 engines freeze at 30k  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: p-38
Post by: Vermillion on December 02, 1999, 03:59:00 PM
Well...

These are from American Hundred Thousand (AHT), easily the best American Fighter book ever published. I won't give numbers since most would typically require a graph.

P63C vs P51D Comparison

Max Speed:
P-63C has better speed up until 20K, where the P51D becomes superior

Times to Climb:
P-63C is vastly superior throught the entire altitude spectrum.

Range & Radius:
P-51D is has much better range, with and without droptanks (both are dropta
nk capable)

Takeoff Distance:
P-51D has a shorter takeoff distance.

Roll Rates:
P-63 has better roll rates

Turn Rates:
P-63 has superior turn rates

Level Flight Acceleration (250mph):
P-51 accelerates better

Vertical dive Acceleration:
No data given for P-63, P-51 ranked 2nd overall

Dive Speed Limit:
Tie, both are 500mph dive speed limited

Visibility:
P-51D has much better visibility

Firepower (opinon):
P-63 has x4 .50cals + x1 37mm, P-51 has x6 .50cals, opinon is that edge goes to KingCobra


There are several others, but what it comes down to is personal preference. How do you like to fight and at what altitude? Personally I think the P-63 would fit my style much better, but they are both very capable aircraft.



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Vermillion
WB's: (verm--), **MOL**, Men of Leisure,
"Real men fly Radials, Nancy Boys fly Spitfires ;) "
Title: p-38
Post by: Westy on December 03, 1999, 09:00:00 AM
I too would like a P63 over a P39.

<slobber>

--Westy
Title: p-38
Post by: val on December 03, 1999, 05:35:00 PM
After the poor showing of the Bell P-39, and the requirement for long range escort the USAAC was not very interested in the P-63. Nearly all of them were shipped to the Soviets under lend-lease.

(The following is true and not a joke or troll)

A few were kept and used in Frangible bullet training for bomber gunners. These P-63s were given extra armor and painted bright orange. The had lights installed on them that lit up they were hit by gunner trainees shooting ceramic bullets. The project was named Operation Pinball.

val

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Scott (val) Valline
Dweebs of Death
Title: p-38
Post by: Glasses on December 03, 1999, 05:54:00 PM
leave Jimmet alone,he's only 5  >:'p
Title: p-38
Post by: jimmiet on December 03, 1999, 06:51:00 PM
hahahahahaha very funny guys  i love the game sofar i just want more nplanes like this 1  a b29 superfortress
just thought  i woul share some thoughts with u guys but seems some of u cant reply in a grown up manner so i wonder whos 5 as for me im not 5 but i know some stuff bout planes since i have alwaws adored plane but mostly war planes that is why aces high is my most fav flight sim yet .....
Title: p-38
Post by: val on December 05, 1999, 12:21:00 PM
JIMMIET:

Since most of us never meet face to face, all we have to judge each other by is how we write. Your style of writing (no punctuation, poor spelling, and poor grammer), gives other posters the impression that you are very young. First impressions are very important, and on the Internet it is more important than anywhere else.

If you want to get your ideas across and be taken seriously, try to write in a way that shows you are educated. Otherwise most readers will not take you seriously, and others will insult your intelligence and ideas.

val



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Scott (val) Valline
Dweebs of Death
Title: p-38
Post by: Hristo on December 05, 1999, 12:38:00 PM
Umm, P 38 ?! That a Kraut pistol or something ?  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

I want one in my 190.
Title: p-38
Post by: The Flying Penguin on December 11, 1999, 05:34:00 PM
hey all.

havent posted in a bit....
I'd take a superfort too jimmy,
give me a fatman while your're at it.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

You would have to make it loose presurization in the waste above 35k(?) or so,...we would have to account for the waist blisters breaking. :P

I'll take a P-38J for a spin, but lets see some more brit\german\soviet\navy planes first.....some pre-war\early war's would be fun too. .....p26, bristol bulldog, commonwealth boomerang, curtis hawk, f2a2, swordfish, tbd-3 devistator, he111, ju52 (i like her!...shes a wonderful trainer), kondor, maybe some flying boats....pby or that large 4 engined german boat that i always forget the name of.....but most of all...I NEED A B-17C (and all the problems associated with her)
<drool>

--drako