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Title: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: SCTusk on April 27, 2010, 01:01:59 AM
Not that this would ever apply to me but here goes, I'm aware of the upcoming changes to the WW1 scene but this is something not covered by that. I think most would agree that WW1 more so than WW2 was the time of the Great Aces, the very best were much publicised and held in high esteem. The rank system is what it is (I suspect most don't put that much stock in it, I'm often bested by people 1v1 who according to their rank should be not too much trouble). That said, it might be fun (and something to aspire to) if say, the top three or five (or ten?) ranking flyers were somehow highlighted (put their handle up in a different colour maybe?) or even get access to a/c with special 'Ace' skins. Imagine coming up against an all red Tripe in there, now that would be cool.

I seem to remember the old Flying Circus game by Simguild had a Black Ace award which worked something like that, but you had to achieve a run of 100 kills to win it. As far as I know, only the Skeleton Crews' own SC-PLight ever won that distinction (but I could be mistaken). Anyway I think something along those lines would be very much in keeping with the WW1 theme, add to the fun, and give some of the top guns from the WW2 arena another good reason to come over occassionally and try their luck in the old bipes n' tripes. I've seen some fantastic flying in there on occassion, which should really get more of a reward than some barely noticed number on a ranking list, and it would add a little more of a WW1 'feel' to proceedings imho.   
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: stealth on April 27, 2010, 01:38:39 AM
Seems like a good idea. Instead of a skin though for the aces,make it like ribbons on there planes wings. A ribbon for every rank would be interesting.
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Simba on April 27, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
"most would agree that WW1 more so than WW2 was the time of the Great Aces, the very best were much publicised and held in high esteem."

Not quite so much by the British, who recognised the fact that it was the two-seater crews who did the most important work and that the fighter pilot's main duty was to gain and hold sufficient air superiority to enable them to do that work while denying the same freedom of action to the enemy. But this arcade game is called Aces High after all, so sure, why not?

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Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Wmaker on April 27, 2010, 03:08:32 PM
I'm aware of the upcoming changes to the WW1 scene   

What upcoming changes? Have I missed something?
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: ACE on April 27, 2010, 03:27:00 PM
+1
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: 321BAR on April 27, 2010, 03:27:56 PM
+1 to the skins, not ribbons. i'd say the winner gets a read baron style plane? WWI updates? what are you talking about?
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: SCTusk on April 28, 2010, 01:34:45 AM
Here's a quote from a previous thread re new arenas in case you missed it:

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As I said previously our next big task is to bring up user spawned arenas where they have control of all. So that will be a good venue for what you ask.

HiTech

Apparently we'll be able to modify most of the current content within reason for these arenas. The reason I asked about some sort of top ace recognition beyond the present rating system is that it would require something new added, as opposed to manipulating what is currently available. 
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: stealth on April 28, 2010, 01:50:48 AM
Well I say when we look at score on roster it has it like General,Sargent and so on. I would like that to not just skins.
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: FLS on April 28, 2010, 06:49:44 AM
So you could get medals, ribbons, rank, and special skins showing your elite status by parking an F3b under a furball and jumping to the gunner seat?
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: gyrene81 on April 28, 2010, 06:59:46 AM
So you could get medals, ribbons, rank, and special skins showing your elite status by parking an F3b under a furball and jumping to the gunner seat?
LMAO...bet no one thought of that.



Here's a quote from a previous thread re new arenas in case you missed it:

Apparently we'll be able to modify most of the current content within reason for these arenas. The reason I asked about some sort of top ace recognition beyond the present rating system is that it would require something new added, as opposed to manipulating what is currently available. 
There are going to be limitations to what you can enable/disable...it's not going to be like player hosted servers where anything goes...there is a reason the plan is to have HTC host the servers and allow control similar to the CM's and special events servers.
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Miska on April 29, 2010, 06:54:19 PM
...it was the two-seater crews who did the most important work and that the fighter pilot's main duty was to gain and hold sufficient air superiority to enable them to do that work while denying the same freedom of action to the enemy.

I've never understood what so complicated about that.  That's really what the game should boil down to.
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: 321BAR on April 29, 2010, 07:27:25 PM
I've never understood what so complicated about that.  That's really what the game should boil down to.
but the WWI feel nowadays is to fly with the aces, to be the best. Honor, glory... nobody thinks of bombers of WWI. They think of the feel of the close range 15 plane dogfight which the top survive.
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Miska on April 29, 2010, 07:38:17 PM
For what purpose?  And how does the dogfight happen?
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: 321BAR on April 29, 2010, 07:42:11 PM
In WWI the dogfights just...happen, theyre all fun and honorable flyers. never angry and always laughing and having a good time... no need to destroy the arena with bombers and score hos. Make a second WWI MA for that and leave the dogfight arena for a blast from the past. I'd love to get a Red Baron skin for my plane just to show "im the best, try me!" you cant kill steal anymore and the pilots dont mind much about scores so this would be perfect
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Simba on May 04, 2010, 05:50:01 PM
"In WWI the dogfights just...happen, theyre all fun and honorable flyers. never angry and always laughing and having a good time... no need to destroy the arena with bombers and score hos. Make a second WWI MA for that and leave the dogfight arena for a blast from the past. I'd love to get a Red Baron skin for my plane just to show "im the best, try me!"

Typical furballer elitism - which is why all you ever do is end up flying in ever-diminishing circles until you disappear.

The persistent fable that WW1 combat flyers were 'Knights of the Air' dishonours the memory of the men who did it for real. But as I said earlier in this thread, this is only an arcade game, not a WW1 combat flight simulation, so play away to your heart's content in your new play-pen.

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Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: 321BAR on May 04, 2010, 08:50:11 PM
Typical furballer elitism - which is why all you ever do is end up flying in ever-diminishing circles until you disappear.

The persistent fable that WW1 combat flyers were 'Knights of the Air' dishonours the memory of the men who did it for real. But as I said earlier in this thread, this is only an arcade game, not a WW1 combat flight simulation, so play away to your heart's content in your new play-pen.

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elitism...BAH, its fun, most furballs in the MAs include alot of HOing, picking, etc. WWIs different... its like a new old DA when people had a blast and nobody cared what happened. Knights of the Air, yeah i know the realism behind WWI, but this is a game like u stated. And like i also stated, when most people think of WWI they think in that fashion, wouldnt this create a larger player base? sure make another arena for WWI realism but im stickin with the dogfighting :aok
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Boxboy on May 04, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
"In WWI the dogfights just...happen, theyre all fun and honorable flyers. never angry and always laughing and having a good time... no need to destroy the arena with bombers and score hos. Make a second WWI MA for that and leave the dogfight arena for a blast from the past. I'd love to get a Red Baron skin for my plane just to show "im the best, try me!"

Typical furballer elitism - which is why all you ever do is end up flying in ever-diminishing circles until you disappear.

The persistent fable that WW1 combat flyers were 'Knights of the Air' dishonours the memory of the men who did it for real. But as I said earlier in this thread, this is only an arcade game, not a WW1 combat flight simulation, so play away to your heart's content in your new play-pen.

 :cool:

LOL I have known you a long time Simba "who peed in your wheaties???", while AH is a computer game I would rate it far above "arcade" level
not quite a perfect simulation but close :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 04, 2010, 10:28:52 PM


The persistent fable that WW1 combat flyers were 'Knights of the Air' dishonours the memory of the men who did it for real. But as I said earlier in this thread, this is only an arcade game, not a WW1 combat flight simulation, so play away to your heart's content in your new play-pen.

 :cool:

I agree.  Any notion of them being 'Knights of the Air' went out the window when that Frenchman brought along a rifle.

ack-ack
Title: Re: WW1 Top Gun type award
Post by: SCTusk on May 04, 2010, 11:01:27 PM
Obviously I wasn't there when the RFC and Die Fliegertruppen des deutschen Kaiserreiches first took to the air; I only know what I've learned from books, documentaries etc. All indications are that this was a different age, when a mans' word meant something, and he made sure his daily toil produced something worthwhile. At the outset there was definitely an attempt to fight a 'gentlemans war', but with the escalation in firepower and aviation technology this could never last, not with the crews lives - and often much more - at stake. I think there is an attempt being made in the WW1 arena to hold on to some small thread of chivalry, as there was in the real air war. Not by everyone, but most of the good sticks seem to be pulling in the same direction. We can afford that luxury, it is after all a game. I'm not sure where the 'arcade' reference comes from, or even quite what it means. Some sort of payout? If so perhaps the reference is made by a real world pilot who has spent some time in a real cockpit? As have many of the players in the WW1 arena, including myself. We all seem happy enough with it so maybe it's subjective.

Fun is just fun; everyone who 'flies' a MMP combat flight sim is role playing. What's wrong with allowing the top guns a little extra colour and style?