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Title: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Wildcat1 on April 29, 2010, 07:38:24 PM
I know that the Americans put sandbags on the front of their M4A3's to improve survivability from frontal hits, but im not sure if any other country used this tactic.

could be a pretty neat feature, especially with the addition of two types of shermans. maybe for the cost of 1 or 2 perks. slight mobility decrease sacrificed for slight frontal armor increase, i would do that every time  :aok
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: 321BAR on April 29, 2010, 07:39:41 PM
soft armor would be cool +1 unless it couldnt stop a 75mm round... then whatever
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Kenne on April 29, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
you wood need spare parts too, and logs n such. 
maybe some foliage as well!
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: 321BAR on April 29, 2010, 07:45:15 PM
you wood need spare parts too, and logs n such. 
maybe some foliage as well!
but no.... soft armor didnt really have any of this kenne
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Kenne on April 29, 2010, 08:12:19 PM
but no.... soft armor didnt really have any of this kenne

soft armor as in literally non-solid protection?
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: BrownBaron on April 29, 2010, 08:14:15 PM
Soft as in not a high-strength metal...
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: ACE on April 29, 2010, 08:14:22 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: 321BAR on April 29, 2010, 08:14:42 PM
soft armor as in literally non-solid protection?
well in that case sand aint solid... or bags...or extra tracks etc... idk about trees as soft armor
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Wildcat1 on April 29, 2010, 08:17:45 PM
well in that case sand aint solid... or bags...or extra tracks etc... idk about trees as soft armor

i think the point of the sandbags was to trigger the fuse on the AP round before it hit the hull of the tank, so when it did reach the hull, the round was significantly weaker, and sometimes didnt penetrate at all.
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Kenne on April 29, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
i think the point of the sandbags was to trigger the fuse on the AP round before it hit the hull of the tank, so when it did reach the hull, the round was significantly weaker, and sometimes didnt penetrate at all.

i lean towards ANY substance in the definition of 'soft armor' as a substance to explode/divert prematurely
incoming rounds...
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Wildcat1 on April 29, 2010, 08:27:54 PM
i lean towards ANY substance in the definition of 'soft armor' as a substance to explode/divert prematurely
incoming rounds...

yes but the sandbags have historical significance because thats what the Americans used, not trees or foilage or dead livestock. thats why im asking for the sandbags :aok
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Kenne on April 29, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
yes but the sandbags have historical significance because thats what the Americans used, not trees or foilage or dead livestock. thats why im asking for the sandbags :aok

:p   ill break out my 2AD book and scan in some pics of M4s with spare tracks and road wheels and chunks of trees IN ADDITION TOO sand bags, fashioned here n there!
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: 1carbine on April 29, 2010, 10:45:20 PM
+1 sounds good.
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: BowHTR on April 29, 2010, 11:05:57 PM
(http://www.history.army.mil/reference/Normandy/TS/OD/notes/253.jpg)
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tanks-medium/m4-medium-tank-sherman/m4-medium-tank-13.png)
(http://www.756tank.com/756crewrest.jpg)
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Guppy35 on April 30, 2010, 12:17:53 AM
To go along with the complete silliness of this thread, I would suggest that sand bags would have to be perked.  This poor guy only had enough perk points for a few sandbags on the front, but not enough to fill the frames built on the sides of his M4A3(76) or the turret.

(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/sandbag.jpg)
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Guppy35 on April 30, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
Would it be more or less perks for the wooden sides and wire grating on the hatches modifications?
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/M4A3.jpg)
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: cobia38 on April 30, 2010, 06:25:30 AM

  notice the 4 inches of dirt between the wood and the hull 
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Tilt on April 30, 2010, 08:04:05 AM
Be some thing for spawn campers to do I suppose...........  fill the sand bags whilst waiting.
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: waystin2 on April 30, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
Be some thing for spawn campers to do I suppose...........  fill the sand bags whilst waiting.

LOL.  Thank goodness I am the CO.  Fill those bags boys, I'll be over here brewing a cup!  :lol
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: AKP on April 30, 2010, 10:35:23 AM
Sure... why not, and while we are at it, why not this too:

"Well, yeah, man, you see, like, all the tanks we come up against are bigger and better than ours, so all we can hope to do is, like, scare 'em away, y'know. This gun is an ordinary 76mm but we add this piece of pipe onto it, and the Krauts think, like, maybe it's a 90mm. We got our own ammunition, it's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes... pretty pictures. Scares the hell outta people! We have a loudspeaker here, and when we go into battle we play music, very loud. It kind of... calms us down." - Oddball
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Krusty on April 30, 2010, 04:52:18 PM
Just even remotely going along with the sillyness of this post, HTC doesn't do field mods  :devil
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: AWwrgwy on April 30, 2010, 05:31:50 PM
Sure... why not, and while we are at it, why not this too:

"Well, yeah, man, you see, like, all the tanks we come up against are bigger and better than ours, so all we can hope to do is, like, scare 'em away, y'know. This gun is an ordinary 76mm but we add this piece of pipe onto it, and the Krauts think, like, maybe it's a 90mm. We got our own ammunition, it's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes... pretty pictures. Scares the hell outta people! We have a loudspeaker here, and when we go into battle we play music, very loud. It kind of... calms us down." - Oddball

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/7462/paint02.gif)


wrongway
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: theNewB on April 30, 2010, 06:25:39 PM
Quote
i think the point of the sandbags was to trigger the fuse on the AP round before it hit the hull of the tank, so when it did reach the hull, the round was significantly weaker, and sometimes didnt penetrate at all.

Makes sence to me since the germans had a lot of APHE/HEAT rounds. I can see it helping with 50mm-75mm armed AFVs and ATGs depending on range, angle and luck but I dont think it would help after taking the 1st round. Might even be handy against some anti-tank infantry weapons aswell. (perhaps enough time to either get out of there or locate the target and return fire, or dissapate that infantrys anti-armour weapon)

Maybe they can make the burlap an orange color like the panzers "camo", make that Firefly and M4 stand out as bad as the panzer. *Poking fun at topic, as we dont have any sort of HEAT/APHE to begin with*

I do give you props however for a different wish other then "we need *insert 1945-1946 superdupernoober LW stuff* It would rulez"
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: 321BAR on April 30, 2010, 10:50:23 PM
Just even remotely going along with the sillyness of this post, HTC doesn't do field mods  :devil
idk if im correct but isnt the PnzrIVH side armor sheet a field mod or were they built in later in production lines?
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: Krusty on April 30, 2010, 11:57:12 PM
I wouldn't think it's a field mod, not in this spirit. Sometimes things were refurbished at a depot level before going out to troops, not actually done by the troops themselves. That's not really the same as a field mod where some pilot hacks a P-38 to carry 6x50cal or whatever. :)
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: 321BAR on May 01, 2010, 07:04:29 AM
I wouldn't think it's a field mod, not in this spirit. Sometimes things were refurbished at a depot level before going out to troops, not actually done by the troops themselves. That's not really the same as a field mod where some pilot hacks a P-38 to carry 6x50cal or whatever. :)
ok. always thought they did that in the field :aok
Title: Re: ability to put sandbags on tanks
Post by: guncrasher on May 02, 2010, 01:39:52 AM
LOL.  Thank goodness I am the CO.  Fill those bags boys, I'll be over here brewing a cup!  :lol

damn  hate being the new guy, i got 30 ready 200 more to go...

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