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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Terrible on May 06, 2010, 06:53:00 PM
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I have just returned to aces high after a few years and I am trying to figure out what the difference is with this model from the other P47s in performance, I can not find any data on it's in game performance.
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I'm not sure of the exact stats, but the climb rate is much higher than other JUGS. Other than that, it's still a JUG. Love em or leave em, your choice, but I will continue to fly them every chance I get. :D
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I have just returned to aces high after a few years and I am trying to figure out what the difference is with this model from the other P47s in performance, I can not find any data on it's in game performance.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/planeperf.php
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Wow its a beast!
Thanks Lusche.
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Wow its a beast!
Thanks Lusche.
Top P47 is the (M) model.
Beast ? M's a Monster :D.
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One nice feature of the M is the dive brake, which I made a point of getting figured out after diving on a B-17 and ignominiously augered into a friendly field after I got too fast and went into compression..... the next time I got into a tight spot I had them figured out and they worked like a charm.....
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It's a light N. Note the charts show for light loadout. It never historically took the full guns load that most folks spray and pray with, so if you load it down with 1000lbs extra weight the climb rate isn't so good (only slightly better than other jugs)
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Top P47 is the (M) model.
Beast ? M's a Monster :D.
Not hardly. A substantial part of the plane set out-climbs her. She's got speed at all altitudes but a number of rides will still run her down, and if she IS caught she's still a Jug. Spits, F4Us, 109s, F6Fs, and pretty much anything else that excels in a close-range maneuvering fight will eat her alive if she gets slow. She doesn't really come into her own until you get her up above 25-30k, which you just don't see all that often in the Mains.
Good plane? Yes. Monster? Not at all.
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She's as much a monster as the 47N is, and the N is also a monster. Unstoppable? No. Beast? No. Just ordinary "monster"....
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Why is it my opinion never counts ? I've played a long time, i think i know what I'm talking about :lol. P-47-M is a fast bird, and I've flown it a lot, its climbs very good for a jug, runs really good, and gets its airspeed back faster than any other 47.
I've out done many pilots in the DA and MA with that bird. also saxman, 2 of those aircraft you put in there are navy, your a navy squad guy correct ? if a P-47-M got in a dogfight, say F6F or an F4U, it can out run both if it fails in a turn fight. except a F4U-4 naturally. I've won against f4u's and f6f's, both of which also lose airspeed and don't get it back as easy, and if you put down flaps on a F4U ! your a sitting duck :rofl.
Many underestimate the P-47-M and what it can do, i love the F4U, my favorite bird, but i like all american aircraft, and will post a text to show what they can do.
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Monster? Not at all.
Once you get a taste of those 8 x 50s you'll think again :D.
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Great plane, although it does weird stuff near stall speed, although as Krusty mentioned, most folks insult it by flying it like an Lgay and spraying and hoing away at everything in sight, then running off. The original half-dozen or so UBER D-25/D-40 sticks from the 56th, placed into this plane, would own everything and everyone they come across :aok
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Great plane, although it does weird stuff near stall speed, although as Krusty mentioned, most folks insult it by flying it like an Lgay and spraying and hoing away at everything in sight, then running off. The original half-dozen or so UBER D-25/D-40 sticks from the 56th, placed into this plane, would own everything and everyone they come across :aok
Well happy to know sticks from the 56th support it :).
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I've out done many pilots in the DA and MA with that bird. also saxman, 2 of those aircraft you put in there are navy, your a navy squad guy correct ?
Marines. :furious :furious :furious :furious
What does it matter that I mentioned two blue planes that would beat it if she's dragged in close? I also noted that the 109s and Spits would, too.
She's the best bird in her line to be sure, but at the end of the day she's STILL a Jug. Every tactic for fighting a Jug still applies.
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Why is it my opinion never counts ? I've played a long time, i think i know what I'm talking about :lol. P-47-M is a fast bird, and I've flown it a lot, its climbs very good for a jug, runs really good, and gets its airspeed back faster than any other 47.
I've out done many pilots in the DA and MA with that bird. also saxman, 2 of those aircraft you put in there are navy, your a navy squad guy correct ? if a P-47-M got in a dogfight, say F6F or an F4U, it can out run both if it fails in a turn fight. except a F4U-4 naturally. I've won against f4u's and f6f's, both of which also lose airspeed and don't get it back as easy, and if you put down flaps on a F4U ! your a sitting duck :rofl.
Many underestimate the P-47-M and what it can do, i love the F4U, my favorite bird, but i like all american aircraft, and will post a text to show what they can do.
Buck, do you fly under the name "Buck"? If so did you fly under some other name before that? Going by the score pages, your first tour was 104, and your forum sign on is April 2010. Basically you have to earn your reputation with "time in service". Some people have been here for 5, even 10 years (were has the time gone !). Some have built a rep as being very knowledgeable with things in the game while some very quickly build a rep of pure stupidity. Give your self time and let people get to know you. Take the time to read what others say that might be contrary to what you post, test it, and be open to changing your opinion. As for the P47M being a monster, it is in the right hands as well as in the right conditions, but over all, as used in the MA's it's not. If you get under 350 in it spits and hogs will eat you alive, and under 300 109s and f6's get lunch too.
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What he said!!!!!
I love the jug "M"
it has strengths and weakness, just like every other bird in the game!
That said, I love to get up high with the spixteens and 14's then slam on the brakes and sucker them into the fight they didn't expect,,,
It is good to check the skill of the pilot of the spit first so as to know if this will work, but when it does, 200 will light up like a Christmas tree with the Cheater,Cheater code please? pops right up!!!
I need to save some of the better films of the spixteen fights, they are Hilarius!
but do not confuse this with the planes better ability to stall/turn fight, it is not built for that, any "good" pilot who knows his plane will most likely turn the tables on you very fast!
If you want to fly the "big" jug, the "M", then spend a month or two in it, every flight,I like to fly it all day long, the same plane if I can, just re arm it over and over! :airplane:
and I am nowhere near as good as I would like to be in it, or as good as many others in it,, but I think with a little more time and learning/training, it, could be unbeatable,, more so than any other plane in the game!
alas, I have only been flying since tour 72, so I am still a rookie by many standards, someone will be along to correct me soon enough, don't worry about being Ignored, this place is filled with many who think they know it all, and a few who actually do,,,, I am neither!!!!!!
<<S>> See ya in the Cartoon Wars :bolt:
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What he said!!!!!
I love the jug "M"
it has strengths and weakness, just like every other bird in the game!
That said, I love to get up high with the spixteens and 14's then slam on the brakes and sucker them into the fight they didn't expect,,,
It is good to check the skill of the pilot of the spit first so as to know if this will work, but when it does, 200 will light up like a Christmas tree with the Cheater,Cheater code please? pops right up!!!
I need to save some of the better films of the spixteen fights, they are Hilarius!
but do not confuse this with the planes better ability to stall/turn fight, it is not built for that, any "good" pilot who knows his plane will most likely turn the tables on you very fast!
If you want to fly the "big" jug, the "M", then spend a month or two in it, every flight,I like to fly it all day long, the same plane if I can, just re arm it over and over! :airplane:
and I am nowhere near as good as I would like to be in it, or as good as many others in it,, but I think with a little more time and learning/training, it, could be unbeatable,, more so than any other plane in the game!
alas, I have only been flying since tour 72, so I am still a rookie by many standards, someone will be along to correct me soon enough, don't worry about being Ignored, this place is filled with many who think they know it all, and a few who actually do,,,, I am neither!!!!!!
<<S>> See ya in the Cartoon Wars :bolt:
Just out of interest, when you 'slam on the brakes' for the Spitfires, what do your better opponents respond by doing?
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I like to use it as a Buff hunter, it excells at this. Look at it's traits, good top speed, very tough, great dive, good high alt., and the punch and range of 8 .50's. These traits also make it pretty good as an escort fighter as well. It doesn't do bad as a pure fighter, but you have to know it's limitations and when to get out of a fight before it gets into a slow turning match with more agile aircraft. Overall it's a very good plane, flown to it's strengths.
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BigRat
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Just out of interest, when you 'slam on the brakes' for the Spitfires, what do your better opponents respond by doing?
they move away and above, if they can, getting space between them and you, the less well trained will get in as tight as they can, the jug will do a pretty well controlled flat spin, if you can keep the guns on, I have done this type of turn all the way to the deck to then pull out and fly away all be it very slowly,,, the smart ones just pull off a bit and try to re-engage, at this point,if you are high enough you can dive away, if not your toast, full flaps and wep will make it fun to fly tho for a bit if you decide to stay and fight , also once you have got some speed, it will turn like crazy while still going strait down encase you don't get enough separation.
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Well said, sir.
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Well said, sir.
Thank you BrownBaron :salute.
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Buck, do you fly under the name "Buck"?
No i don't fly under the name buck.