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Title: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 08:59:55 PM
This is a joke i just fired a load of .50's in a 47 at a 24.And what do i get nothing the hacker kills me with no damage this is ridiculous around 1k of rounds in him and hes not getting any damage.Either its the Gun damage ratio or hes a worthless hacker.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Wolfala on May 08, 2010, 09:04:39 PM
See Rule #4
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:07:29 PM
You sir, are an idiot.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/47Mvs190A8firemodcopy.jpg)


Sure im the idiot atleast im not an idiot enough to use a un-appropriate statement as a reply to a fact.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:09:03 PM
You sir, are an idiot.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/47Mvs190A8firemodcopy.jpg)

Also that is a 190 being shot by a 47 not a 24  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: grizz441 on May 08, 2010, 09:10:29 PM
You probably shouldn't associate the word 'fact' with any of your posts in this thread.  It's not fair to the word 'fact', he has feelings too you know.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: WWhiskey on May 08, 2010, 09:11:06 PM


Sure im the idiot atleast im not an idiot enough to use a un-appropriate statement as a reply to a fact.
Quote
hes a worthless hacker.
Pretty much covers his comment and then some!
Rules are there for your protection!!!! hopefully I have mine on!
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:11:51 PM
You probably shouldn't associate the word 'fact' with any of your posts in this thread.  It's not fair to the word 'fact', he has feelings too you know.


Yes but this happened in an in-game scenario he has no right to call me an idiot.Whenever i have a scenario that needs an explantion.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Wolfala on May 08, 2010, 09:12:40 PM

Also that is a 190 being shot by a 47 not a 24  :rolleyes:

This is obviously better for you.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/P47Ndrilldownwithblurs.jpg)

If you are unable to take out a 24, you can't aim. They catch fire at the wing root no matter how hard you hit them. Keep practicing.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:14:18 PM
Whatever i hit his engine and wings this again is nothing but a joke.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:15:29 PM
This is obviously better for you.

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r207/wolfala/Aces%20High%20Artwork/P47Ndrilldownwithblurs.jpg)

If you are unable to take out a 24, you can't aim. They catch fire at the wing root no matter how hard you hit them. Keep practicing.


Burning at root called fuel tanks his engine never shut down either he flew right on.N0 problems And why does that look like another sim,something about snapshot makes it look different.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Wolfala on May 08, 2010, 09:16:50 PM
Whatever i hit his engine and wings this again is nothing but a joke.

Let me help ya out. Turn yr tracers off - b/c they won't help ya here. You need to anticipate where the bullets will end up - not be shown. Put yr inside guns to 475, and yr outside guns to 450. See what happens. Myself and Stoney have more time in P-47s then the rest of the MA population combined. Do these 2 things, and you will kill with them.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Karnak on May 08, 2010, 09:17:00 PM
Post a film.  It is hard to tell what happened from your posts.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:18:08 PM
Let me help ya out. Turn yr tracers off - b/c they won't help ya here. You need to anticipate where the bullets will end up - not be shown. Put yr inside guns to 475, and yr outside guns to 450. See what happens. Myself and Stoney have more time in P-47s then the rest of the MA population combined. Do these 2 things, and you will kill with them.

Will try sorry for the disrespect. <S>
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Wolfala on May 08, 2010, 09:21:08 PM
Will try sorry for the disrespect. <S>

Busting balls is part of the fun. Don't sweat the small toejam. I'll find a few videos to post up for your assistance. Stby 1.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:21:40 PM
Busting balls is part of the fun. Don't sweat the small toejam. I'll find a few videos to post up for your assistance. Stby 1.
TY sir.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Wolfala on May 08, 2010, 09:43:19 PM
http://www.mediafire.com/file/dwmzoifjzam/1 half turn jug kill.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/dwmzoifjzam/1 half turn jug kill.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bum0jyiztmn/109 vs 47m.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/bum0jyiztmn/109 vs 47m.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/tgzutznkcjd/190 low and close 47m.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/tgzutznkcjd/190 low and close 47m.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qnzm0mrdze5/190 out numbered 47m.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/qnzm0mrdze5/190 out numbered 47m.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/olxjzmdmjjo/47M vs 109g6.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/olxjzmdmjjo/47M vs 109g6.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/xamkydynjhk/B26 rocket kill.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/xamkydynjhk/B26 rocket kill.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zimmzmjytz5/c47 109 vs 47m.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/zimmzmjytz5/c47 109 vs 47m.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qozmm5znmmy/Deck fight 47.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/qozmm5znmmy/Deck fight 47.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2t3miofj2yh/G14 blew his pass vs 47m.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2t3miofj2yh/G14 blew his pass vs 47m.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2dkjufzdnyt/Great 47d vs me.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/2dkjufzdnyt/Great 47d vs me.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fzjhcf0mzto/Holy crap this 47 is an idiot.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/fzjhcf0mzto/Holy crap this 47 is an idiot.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t0mmq01dmzy/Holy toejam 47m and ta.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/t0mmq01dmzy/Holy toejam 47m and ta.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/hhynzemymyz/Low knife fight with a 47.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/hhynzemymyz/Low knife fight with a 47.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jny5lfzwynm/P47 sponge.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jny5lfzwynm/P47 sponge.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/jz2tmni2zok/saving swampy.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jz2tmni2zok/saving swampy.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yzijz5mjm4t/Stuff to watch.zip (http://www.mediafire.com/file/yzijz5mjm4t/Stuff to watch.zip)
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Bronk on May 08, 2010, 09:48:12 PM
"There is always a small microcosm of people who need to explain away their suckage."
SlapShot
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: uptown on May 08, 2010, 09:54:00 PM
Is your vertical sync off?
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: mtnman on May 08, 2010, 09:54:12 PM
It doesn't take nearly that much ammo, or that many hits to wipe out a flock of bombers, especially B24's.  Those are extremely easy to set afire if you put a concentration of fire in the right place.

The first step is to set your convergence effectively, the second is to hit a vital area on your target, from as close to that convergence distance as possible.

Resist the urge to set your convergence way out to a long distance.  Like Wolfala says, some people like to stagger their convergence settings, others like to set them all to the same point.  

Personally, I like to set them out to around 300yds (I use 275, for a "special" reason), because following a lot of testing in the DA, i think that's about the "optimal" range to set them.  I won't say Wolfala's settings aren't good, but I sure wouldn't set wing-mounted guns out any further than that, as it really seems to neuter them for the ranges where they're the most effective.  With a setting of 300yds, as the icon counter shifts from D400 to D200, you're right at 300 yards from your target.

When it comes to killing bombers, you need to get a concentrated enough stream of fire, for long enough, in a vulnerable area, without getting yourself shot.  This film shows one of the easiest, most effective attacks.  I'm higher above the buffs than necessary, but you get the idea.  Now, these attacks are from above, at a steep angle, but not steep enough in the "firing portion" of the attack to survive some of the best bomber gunners.  You can see the idea though.

Vulnerable areas are wing roots, cockpits, and wingtips (if a bomber loses a wingtip, it's doomed).  Once set afire, the bombers will always die, so time your passes so that one set afire "pops" before you attack again, so you have fewer guns pointed at you...

If you're going to look at killing the whole flock, it's also important to attack in proper "order".  It's best to kill the right-hand drone first, followed by the left drone, saving the leader for last.  This eliminates "warpy" bombers that result from killing the leader first, and also eliminates the slight challenge of shooting the right-hand drone as it shifts positions, which is what happens if you shoot the left-hand drone first.

This film is a bit old, so the flames from the bombers aren't showing.  Each bomber is set afire in a single pass, with relatively few rounds.  The F4U carries enough .50's that I've gotten 10+ bomber kills in a single hop.  The P47 uses the same guns, but has two extras...

http://www.4shared.com/file/wKWoxP0r/B24s_0001.html
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 09:59:35 PM
Yes but just got 7 lancs in a D-25 easy
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 08, 2010, 10:03:23 PM
Oh man im loving this D-25 And D-40
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: WMLute on May 08, 2010, 10:14:03 PM
Who remembers the guy that had a similar whine and sent the film in to HTC.  He had "claimed" to have shot his opponent with hundreds of rounds and was crying that the game must be screwed up.

After reviewing the film, Dale came on here and showed that he had indeed fired hundreds of rounds at his opponent but only landed like 6.

Pretty sad to blame the game for ones own failure.

To the OP I would say "learn to aim".
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: BrownBaron on May 09, 2010, 02:50:45 AM


Sure i'm the idiot, at least I'm not (notice the lack of "an" here) idiot enough to offer an inappropriate statement as a response to poor marksmanship, sportsmanship, and general ill temperament.

I'm sorry...Grammar Nazi Protocol...oh...and fixed
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: BrownBaron on May 09, 2010, 02:59:11 AM
...the hacker kills me with no damage this is ridiculous around 1k of rounds in him and hes not getting any damage.Either its the Gun damage ratio or hes a worthless hacker.

For the sake of my mental health, I did not correct your various pervertions our good English.

Firstly, if the guy went on to kill you, you either had a poor gun solution (in which case, i do not see how you could have emptied 1,000 plus rounds into him), or you have bigger issues with your combat maneuvers than you do with gunnery.

Secondly, I had to ask...what compelled you to capitalize "Gun"?  :uhoh
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Ghosth on May 09, 2010, 06:19:13 AM
First off if the guy killed you, I'd be willing to bet my dollars vs your donuts that you were dead 6.

Second, if you shoot the wing tip, and hit it, it will be destroyed, and the bomber will roll over and fall.
This is in my experience by far the easiest way to kill bombers. Yes you can set them afire, but in my experience that takes more precise aim and more ammo. Hitting anything in the fuselage is a waste of time and ammo.  The odds of actually killing anything vital in the fuse are extremely low. Except in a nose to nose pass where you have a chance at killing the pilot.

Shooting off the wingtip is not that difficult, but it does take discipline.
Quite easy to do so as long as you are making good high, or low 3-9 line passes.
Rather more difficult from Coalt, Dead 6, but as you learned that is not a good place to be in an aircraft hunting bombers.

Take the time to get above him, attack from the side. If you attack from say high 2 oclock relative to the bomber. To his guns you are presenting a constantly changing target in both elevation and bearing. That is a lot harder to hit than someone climbing up a bombers dead 6. To a bombers guns that target is stationary. He can wait till you get inside the 800 yard mark and rip you to shreds.

Remember, all bombers guns from formations converge at 500 yards. So dead 6 at 300 - 800 is the dead zone. Stay OUT of it if you want to live.

Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Hap on May 09, 2010, 09:51:41 AM
Remember, all bombers guns from formations converge at 500 yards. So dead 6 at 300 - 800 is the dead zone. Stay OUT of it if you want to live.

 :aok
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: bj229r on May 09, 2010, 10:40:29 AM
I had numerous instances last night of planes  vaporizing with 1 jug burst....odd. Maybe nearly all of them suffered previous damage
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: RTHolmes on May 09, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
if you shoot the wing tip, and hit it, it will be destroyed, and the bomber will roll over and fall.
This is in my experience by far the easiest way to kill bombers.

good tip. after a HO, wingtips are the easiest way to kill buffs (esp B-17s). big target, doesnt take alot to remove it and unlike fighters they will not be landing with a wingtip missing :aok  as a bonus, even if you dive in with no angle off, aiming for the wingtip means you are displaced from the buff's centre line meaning his gunners have to make a deflection shot. having said that I usually go for B-24s wing root, just because they look really cool on fire :D
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: THRASH99 on May 09, 2010, 12:38:18 PM
This is a joke i just fired a load of .50's in a 47 at a 24.And what do i get nothing the hacker kills me with no damage this is ridiculous around 1k of rounds in him and hes not getting any damage.Either its the Gun damage ratio or hes a worthless hacker.
Well I shot a single B-17 on the wing about a few hundred times with 6 50 cals, I hear two pings on my wing and it busts off, so that tells me something is really stupid how my bullets didn't take his wing off, but two pings on my wing did, and I was flying P-51D, I've taken 20mm rounds alot on the wing.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: grizz441 on May 09, 2010, 12:52:03 PM
Well I shot a single B-17 on the wing about a few hundred times with 6 50 cals, I hear two pings on my wing and it busts off, so that tells me something is really stupid how my bullets didn't take his wing off, but two pings on my wing did, and I was flying P-51D, I've taken 20mm rounds alot on the wing.

Just because you heard 2 pings on your wing, doesn't mean he only hit you 2 times.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: curry1 on May 09, 2010, 01:49:10 PM
And why does that look like another sim,something about snapshot makes it look different.
cough coughPHOTOcough SHOPcough
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: gyrene81 on May 09, 2010, 03:41:22 PM
Appears there are quite a few "new guys" experiencing the occasional "rubber bullet" syndrome...it's happened to a lot of us and boiled down to our game settings...whines like what the OP posted and from Thrash99 need to be posted with film or screen shots in the tech support forum along with details on game settings...even a dxdiag and help will be given.

Otherwise you're just going to get flamed by those who know better than you.



Another piece of advise that I'll pass on to you new guys...if you want to improve your gunnery, turn off the tracers...you will be surprised at how much you're actually missing.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: LCCajun on May 09, 2010, 04:37:54 PM
I have to say my favorite way of taking out bombers is by climbing above and about 2-2.5 in front them turning back and diving in with at an angle and just destroying the cockpit. You don't have to worry about their tail gun most of the time, but be careful with collisions.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: beau32 on May 09, 2010, 05:44:14 PM
I have to say my favorite way of taking out bombers is by climbing above and about 2-2.5 in front them turning back and diving in with at an angle and just destroying the cockpit. You don't have to worry about their tail gun most of the time, but be careful with collisions.

I agree. My favorite form of attack. Though firing time is shortened, its alot more fun to put a few rounds into the cockpit and watch em fall to their death.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 09, 2010, 07:22:56 PM
Yes but considering i do gun in bombers i could never perform what he performed.Takes me maybe 3-4 short burst to a planes wing before he goes down.But this guy 1 super short burst had me.And i got a very long burst to his wing and #1-#2 engines but again,i couldnt do enough damage to get a kill.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Kweassa on May 09, 2010, 07:26:11 PM
Quote
Yes but considering i do gun in bombers i could never perform what he performed.Takes me maybe 3-4 short burst to a planes wing before he goes down.But this guy 1 super short burst had me.And i got a very long burst to his wing and #1-#2 engines but again,i couldnt do enough damage to get a kill.

1. the first thing you should learn in AH is there are a lot of people who can do what you cannot.

2. the second thing you should learn in AH is the game's fine about 99% of the time. If something seems wrong, it's because you suck, not the game.

3. the third thing you should learn in AH is stop making these threads. After a few months, you realize how embarassing saying stuff like this is.


Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: BrownBaron on May 09, 2010, 07:35:23 PM
3. the third thing you should learn in AH is stop making these threads. After a few months, you realize how embarassing saying stuff like this is.

Seriously, this is sumthin like your third or fourth whine thread. No more. We get it. Hitech is evil and out to get you. You flew with perfection, and the game screwed up.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 09, 2010, 09:16:11 PM
Seriously, this is sumthin like your third or fourth whine thread. No more. We get it. Hitech is evil and out to get you. You flew with perfection, and the game screwed up.

Who are you?? and why are you masquerading as some type of English guru??  The guy is obviously intent on the game and has made all the same mistakes we made INCLUDING posting when angry.  Some have helped him out, all you have done is flame him, thanks for your generous support to the community.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 09, 2010, 10:28:47 PM

Who are you?? and why are you masquerading as some type of English guru??  The guy is obviously intent on the game and has made all the same mistakes we made INCLUDING posting when angry.  Some have helped him out, all you have done is flame him, thanks for your generous support to the community.

Pour gasoline over your head, put a cig between your lips and walk up to someone....  What do you expect to happen?


wrongway
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: BrownBaron on May 09, 2010, 11:13:25 PM
Who are you?? and why are you masquerading as some type of English guru??  The guy is obviously intent on the game and has made all the same mistakes we made INCLUDING posting when angry.  Some have helped him out, all you have done is flame him, thanks for your generous support to the community.

Erm. I'm a member of the AH community, just like you, if that's what you mean.

I don't feel that I am, I just can not help myself when I see so many ridiculous mistakes.

I suppose he is enjoying the game, but when I had those first sorties I knew that it was my fault I sucked. Not HTC's, not my ISP's, Mine.

I assume your final statement was saracasm, in the likely event that I am wrong, you are very welcome.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Steve on May 09, 2010, 11:17:11 PM
This is a joke i just fired a load of .50's in a 47 at a 24.And what do i get nothing the hacker kills me with no damage this is ridiculous around 1k of rounds in him and hes not getting any damage.Either its the Gun damage ratio or hes a worthless hacker.

You should quit this game... now.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Karnak on May 10, 2010, 02:11:17 AM
We all start someplace, Steve.  Be nice to the chum....er,  new guy.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 10, 2010, 02:14:31 AM
Pour gasoline over your head, put a cig between your lips and walk up to someone....  What do you expect to happen?


wrongway

Sorry flaming has always been a pet peeve of mine, constructive criticism is fine, but criticism just for the sake of flaming someone is not in my book.

These "holier than thou" guys come on here and flame the guy instead of just informing him of the facts,  a waste of time as far as I am concerned, those of you that get "kicks" out of it probably like pulling wings off of flies also.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Kweassa on May 10, 2010, 02:58:19 AM
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Sorry flaming has always been a pet peeve of mine, constructive criticism is fine, but criticism just for the sake of flaming someone is not in my book.

These "holier than thou" guys come on here and flame the guy instead of just informing him of the facts,  a waste of time as far as I am concerned, those of you that get "kicks" out of it probably like pulling wings off of flies also.

There are newbies who come to the boards asking questions and seeking answers with a likeable attitude and respect towards other players and the game ... and then, there are the n00bs, who make debut at the forums with guns blazing and start flinging stupid accusations on how the game is such a piece of crap, full of over/under/wrongly modelled stuff which somehow mysteriously seeks to treat only himself unfairly. It's always the game's fault, or some other cheating, hacking, cable-pulling sonofabi*ch who gets away with it. It's never because of one's own lacking skills. It's always "I fire zillion rounds and saw some hit flashes, but the other guy is fine. Either the game's fediddleed up or the other guy is a cheater" again and again and again.

Don't ask us to treat those two types as the same. They aren't.



Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2010, 03:25:14 AM
There are newbies who come to the boards asking questions and seeking answers with a likeable attitude and respect towards other players and the game ... and then, there are the n00bs, who make debut at the forums with guns blazing and start flinging stupid accusations on how the game is such a piece of crap, full of over/under/wrongly modelled stuff which somehow mysteriously seeks to treat only himself unfairly. It's always the game's fault, or some other cheating, hacking, cable-pulling sonofabi*ch who gets away with it. It's never because of one's own lacking skills. It's always "I fire zillion rounds and saw some hit flashes, but the other guy is fine. Either the game's fediddleed up or the other guy is a cheater" again and again and again.

Don't ask us to treat those two types as the same. They aren't.



+1
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: WWhiskey on May 10, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
Aim here 

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/p47m2.jpg)
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 10, 2010, 10:13:12 AM
There are newbies who come to the boards asking questions and seeking answers with a likeable attitude and respect towards other players and the game ... and then, there are the n00bs, who make debut at the forums with guns blazing and start flinging stupid accusations on how the game is such a piece of crap, full of over/under/wrongly modelled stuff which somehow mysteriously seeks to treat only himself unfairly. It's always the game's fault, or some other cheating, hacking, cable-pulling sonofabi*ch who gets away with it. It's never because of one's own lacking skills. It's always "I fire zillion rounds and saw some hit flashes, but the other guy is fine. Either the game's fediddleed up or the other guy is a cheater" again and again and again.

Don't ask us to treat those two types as the same. They aren't.


Who decides what a likeable attitude is and what is not? You?  The facts are that there are some A type personalities who just need some advice, flaming them will not change their behaviour just make it worse.  Some of you seem to have pretty tender skins when it comes to the boards, but have no problem roasting the other guy
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Lusche on May 10, 2010, 10:25:51 AM
Who decides what a likeable attitude is and what is not? You?

Do you?

Fact is, that is not the first thread by the OP just ranting and blaming the game for his own shortcomings. He wasn't asking for help. He wasn't even asking for information, clarification or even other people opinions "I have trouble in/with... I wonder if the P-47... how do you XXX?". No, he straight went to pull the hacker card.

This is a joke i just fired a load of .50's in a 47 at a 24.And what do i get nothing the hacker kills me with no damage this is ridiculous around 1k of rounds in him and hes not getting any damage.Either its the Gun damage ratio or hes a worthless hacker.

If you think that's a likeable attitude...  :rolleyes:

Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 10, 2010, 10:55:09 AM
Do you?

Fact is, that is not the first thread by the OP just ranting and blaming the game for his own shortcomings. He wasn't asking for help. He wasn't even asking for information, clarification or even other people opinions "I have trouble in/with... I wonder if the P-47... how do you XXX?". No, he straight went to pull the hacker card.

If you think that's a likeable attitude...  :rolleyes:



So your position then Snail, is that flaming is good and the Gods of BBS should rule (could we have a chart on that please).  I never said his rant was likeable, I just said setting him straight in some OTHER mannor than flaming him would have been better.  Your post is no less of a rant than his except you are defending being "right" to flame.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Ack-Ack on May 10, 2010, 12:42:44 PM
Well I shot a single B-17 on the wing about a few hundred times with 6 50 cals, I hear two pings on my wing and it busts off, so that tells me something is really stupid how my bullets didn't take his wing off, but two pings on my wing did, and I was flying P-51D, I've taken 20mm rounds alot on the wing.

I take it, like usual, you don't have any film to back up your exaggerated tales?

ack-ack
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Demetrious on May 10, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Appears there are quite a few "new guys" experiencing the occasional "rubber bullet" syndrome...it's happened to a lot of us and boiled down to our game settings...whines like what the OP posted and from Thrash99 need to be posted with film or screen shots in the tech support forum along with details on game settings...even a dxdiag and help will be given.

This. Every online game ever invented has had issues with collision detection brought on by network lag or similar issues. AH is no exception. And if you're a newb, it can be extremely frustrating starting out in a game like this, where everyone else has more stick time and the first six weeks (at least) is nothing but being bent over a barrel and getting... loved tenderly.

And then you finally get a set-up on a big, blundering bomber and you go OHBOYOHBOY FOR ONCE I FINALLY GET TO SHOOT SOMETHING-

and then rubber bullets.

Not everybody's been playing this game for years and years, fellas. And this game in particular is unusual among the MMOs for the high number of older/adult players on here. We should be able to manage a little more patience for the wild noobs, eh?
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Ghosth on May 10, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
With an april of 08 bbs registration he really should not be, nor post like a newb.

Granted he got rode hard by a few, but he also got politely pointed the error of his ways by most.
For someone who's been in the game for 2 years he should know better than pull the hacker bs.
And yes he did post some 4 or 5 posts in quick succession. All in a very similar vein.

Not that a bit more tolerance would hurt in some cases.

Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Kweassa on May 10, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
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So your position then Snail, is that flaming is good and the Gods of BBS should rule (could we have a chart on that please).  I never said his rant was likeable, I just said setting him straight in some OTHER mannor than flaming him would have been better.  Your post is no less of a rant than his except you are defending being "right" to flame.

You have your methods, we have ours. Don't like it? Well that's too bad.
You call it "flame", we call it "treating one as they deserved to be treated." What comes around goes around.
You're welcome to turn the other cheek and stick to your kindergarten idealism, but don't expect us to do the same.

If the OP had a better attitude and asked politely on what's going on, we'd have more than gladly answered his questions no matter how
stupid or naive it might have been. The snailman and plenty more other people shown face on this thread already have shown they could do
so in many other posts.

Instead, the OP chose to openly flame and belittle the game for his own shortcomings, and you expect us to be all nice and cozy...and then
go so far as to criticize people who don't feel like kissing a salamander's ass.

Just who's calling who 'forum God' here?
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Wolfala on May 11, 2010, 05:06:06 PM
Dirt,

Did ya figure it out or do you want me to ride jump seat with you in the TA?
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 12, 2010, 12:15:55 PM
You have your methods, we have ours. Don't like it? Well that's too bad.
You call it "flame", we call it "treating one as they deserved to be treated." What comes around goes around.
You're welcome to turn the other cheek and stick to your kindergarten idealism, but don't expect us to do the same.

If the OP had a better attitude and asked politely on what's going on, we'd have more than gladly answered his questions no matter how
stupid or naive it might have been. The snailman and plenty more other people shown face on this thread already have shown they could do
so in many other posts.

Instead, the OP chose to openly flame and belittle the game for his own shortcomings, and you expect us to be all nice and cozy...and then
go so far as to criticize people who don't feel like kissing a salamander's ass.

Just who's calling who 'forum God' here?


Hmmm 6k plus posts and you wonder what a form God is? BTW who the hell is we? If you can't stand up for yourself don't post, looks to me like your the childish one with name calling rant.  If you want to hump Snails' ankle send him a pm
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Lusche on May 12, 2010, 12:20:23 PM

Hmmm 6k plus posts and you wonder what a form God is? BTW who the hell is we? If you can't stand up for yourself don't post, looks to me like your the childish one with name calling rant.  If you want to hump Snails' ankle send him a pm

You are aware of the irony that you are flaming and ranting more than anyone else in this thread? With a choice of words & phrases that aren't showing a particular adult style at all?  :)
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: gyrene81 on May 12, 2010, 01:27:55 PM
You are aware of the irony that you are flaming and ranting more than anyone else in this thread? With a choice of words & phrases that aren't showing a particular adult style at all?  :)



eeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyeeeooowww!!!

(http://www.ratewall.com/cpics/7b0a37b6-b362-4006-b146-9132b433c7b7_Jeff_Dunham_Peanut.jpg)

Don't think so.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 12, 2010, 05:20:27 PM
You are aware of the irony that you are flaming and ranting more than anyone else in this thread? With a choice of words & phrases that aren't showing a particular adult style at all?  :)

LOL you call that a flame but disregard the screaming ranting post that caused the reply??? I think your bias skirt is show abit there Snail (but why should I expect different, I am chastising the "BBS Gods" and of course they will attempt to shout me down to maintain their fictitious position of superiority). :neener:

As for Gyrene we haven't agreed on much since I said "no" to no icons, so his response is both typical and expected  :banana: :banana: :banana:
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Lusche on May 12, 2010, 05:50:46 PM
LOL you call that a flame but disregard the screaming ranting post that caused the reply???


Ahhhh  so your flame & rant is of course justified, but my "rant" is not. In other words.... it's not a bad thing as long as you are doing it. ;)
Now who's acting as a BBS "God"  now? :)

And please go back and compare your choice of words with mine.... The irony is still strong  :lol

Typical case of pot calling kettle black.  But alas, I'm done with this.


Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Boxboy on May 12, 2010, 07:31:58 PM

Ahhhh  so your flame & rant is of course justified, but my "rant" is not. In other words.... it's not a bad thing as long as you are doing it. ;)
Now who's acting as a BBS "God"  now? :)

And please go back and compare your choice of words with mine.... The irony is still strong  :lol

Typical case of pot calling kettle black.  But alas, I'm done with this.




 :huh :huh I never referred to your post except as how it referred to my response to Kawassa, but I must confess you ARE a pro at being obtuse  :rofl :rofl :bolt:
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: dirt911 on May 13, 2010, 06:37:43 PM
No i got it fuel tanks right off the fuselage easy kill right there.
Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: Kweassa on May 13, 2010, 07:36:19 PM
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I never referred to your post except as how it referred to my response to Kawassa, but I must confess you ARE a pro at being obtuse

Welcome to the club.

Title: Re: P-47 BS
Post by: EDO43 on May 14, 2010, 03:34:46 PM
Let me help ya out. Turn yr tracers off - b/c they won't help ya here. You need to anticipate where the bullets will end up - not be shown. Put yr inside guns to 475, and yr outside guns to 450. See what happens. Myself and Stoney have more time in P-47s then the rest of the MA population combined. Do these 2 things, and you will kill with them.

I'd like to see a logbook....Myself and Hajo have flown these things religiously for the past 10 years starting way back in AH Beta (or shortly thereafter) with the -30.  I don't think you've got more time in than both of us put together, let alone the main arena....that is of course, unless you fly 24/7/365.  Then, I'll admit you've got more time in than we do.