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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: whipster22 on May 14, 2010, 09:09:06 PM
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J7W cool plane not asking for it. http://www.geocities.jp/jp_j7w1_shinden/start-e.html (http://www.geocities.jp/jp_j7w1_shinden/start-e.html)
it is the most advanced WWII era Japanese plane
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Different, think I saw a German plane of similar design but it wasn't uncommon for Japan to buy blue-prints of various German aircraft. They only got around to the test flights in Aug 1945, definitely a bit late. :rofl
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pusher canard nothing else I've seen is like it
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Real old flight sim I had one first PC had Aces of PAcific I believe. the post-45 fantasy campaign had this plane in it. Plus the bearcat, tigercat, a japanese jet similar to 262. If I remember correctly that game had 2 30mm in the j7m.
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Real old flight sim I had one first PC had Aces of PAcific I believe. the post-45 fantasy campaign had this plane in it. Plus the bearcat, tigercat, a japanese jet similar to 262. If I remember correctly that game had 2 30mm in the j7m.
Yup, the WWII: 1946 had all those, plus my fav, the Ki-83 :aok
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Kinda looks like a Velocity. Sweet design.
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Different, think I saw a German plane of similar design but it wasn't uncommon for Japan to buy blue-prints of various German aircraft. They only got around to the test flights in Aug 1945, definitely a bit late. :rofl
Contrary to the myth, the Japanese were fully capable of designing their own aircraft. The J7W was entirely a Japanese design, but one that was too late to see service or combat.
The Germans tried repeatedly to buy a production license for the Ki-46 but for whatever reason the Japanese would never sell it.
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It's a very futuristic design and has been used in an animated film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05zFX3jn6h8
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it was abandoned in the prototype stage and never saw service. but I flew it on fsx ans it handles quite nice. if it had good guns and saw service, the Americans would have had a bit more challenges
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it was abandoned in the prototype stage and never saw service. but I flew it on fsx ans it handles quite nice. if it had good guns and saw service, the Americans would have had a bit more challenges
it wasn't abandoned there was massive production program under way but the engine had tuning problems and if the allies had invaded the home inlands would would of seen this plane flying around attacking P-51s :t
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Not all that overly fantastic, as far as designs go.
Not original, either. Or rather, not unique.
US had a very similar model but scrapped it because it didn't perform as well as expected.
(http://www.murdoconline.net/2008/xp-55.jpg)
It's a design that makes sense for liesurely aviation, but isn't really the best at hash combat regimes. The canard configuration allows for self-correcting stalls (the canards stall first, nose drops, prevents stall on main wings) but generally speaking that's not usually what you want a high-performance fighter to do.
I loved the later Beechcraft design, the Starship. Sad to see they went out of business (or bankrupt, or whatever).
Also, keep in mind canards are not high-tech. They're old tech. Wright flyer, baby!
(http://www.aviation-central.com/famous/images/ab1a0-ol.gif)
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pusher canard nothing else I've seen is like it
I have Curtiss Ascender.
(http://www.aviationpics.de/prev/curtiss-wright%20xp-55%20ascender%20prototype%20%7Busa%7D.jpg)
Had terrible cooling trouble, I'm betting the Shinden would be similar.
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The more I look at it, the more I would hate to have to try and bail out of something like that. The tail was usually trouble enough let alone a spinning prop...
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That would be why the Germans installed an ejection seat the in Do-335.
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reminds me of my old game crimson skies :rock :rock :rock
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We could add all three: the J7W, the Curtis, and the DO335 to the former WWI arenas. All Post 1945 aircraft could go there, like the F8/F7 combo as well as the Mig 15/F-86. B29, not so much since it would use too many pixels for our computers. These changes would bring the usage up there so that the disk partition and text on our arena selection page wouldn't go to waste. The Crimson Sky arena would be a catchy name :cheers:
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post war area 1945-1950
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Yep. Didnt go into Service.
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And where, pray tell, would HTC get performance data for the J7W, Infidelz?
It had one test flight before the war ended and that test flight was the basic "do a circuit without raising the landing gear" first flight.
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Karnak I didn't say I wanted it I just thought it was interesting also if search thought the website there is one operating in japan.
also one example was bought back to the states.
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My response was to Infidelz, as is indicated by the last word of the first sentence.
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I see
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pusher canard nothing else I've seen is like it
Go to Oshkosh or LA and look up. They're everywhere. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rutan_Long-EZ
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Different, think I saw a German plane of similar design but it wasn't uncommon for Japan to buy blue-prints of various German aircraft. They only got around to the test flights in Aug 1945, definitely a bit late. :rofl
Yup, Germans had designed it.
-BigBOBCH
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Yup, Germans had designed it.
So which plane are you speaking of?
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So which plane are you speaking of?
The one that the guy that started the thread posted? From what I was told it was designed by Germans.
-BigBOBCH
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The one that the guy that started the thread posted? From what I was told it was designed by Germans.
Could not have been one with some actual knowledge about WWII birds ;)
Let me quote for truth:
Contrary to the myth, the Japanese were fully capable of designing their own aircraft. The J7W was entirely a Japanese design, but one that was too late to see service or combat.
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And where, pray tell, would HTC get performance data for the J7W, Infidelz?
It had one test flight before the war ended and that test flight was the basic "do a circuit without raising the landing gear" first flight.
I don't know HTC, he is a clever fellow you know. I would be happy to entertain suggestions, after all it would be the Crimson Sky arena. Anything would be possible there. Maybe X-Plane?
How would you model something that was never recorded before, like a P51D/P47/LA7/etc in a dive going 550mph? Do we have complete data on any of the aircraft or are we using some kind of basic or complex flight rules based upon the type of aerodynamics inherent with the surfaces in the game etc?? Is there is enough data to do all of the planes we have in the game for everything that they are put through? Perhaps they are approximate which is pretty close to what they where? Are the planes in here capable of every maneuver you can put one though? Seem to have read somewhere in here that ...
I don't know just saying ... how would you do it? What if you had to come up with an approximation for the J7W? Would you like to be in on the flight model design evaluation team?
Infidelz
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let me say this there was 1 model sent to the USA and evaluated. :eek: