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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: stealth on May 15, 2010, 04:42:05 AM
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This aircraft I say is more fighter then bomber including how many guns it has. Just think of it like a Me110,just Japanese ;)
Type
Seven-crew long-range bomber.
Powerplant
Two 1,825-hp(1261-kW) Mitsubishi MK42 Kasei 25 radial piston engines.
Performance
Maximum speed 292 mph(470km/h) at 16,895 ft (5150m); service ceiling 30,250 ft (9220m); maximum range 2,694 miles (4335 km)
Weights
Empty 18,049 lb (8350 kg); maximum take-off 27,558 lb (125000 kg)
Dimensions
Wingspan 82 ft 1/4 in (25.00m); length 63 ft 113/4 in (19.50m); height 19ft 81/4 in (6.00m); wing area 841.01 sq ft (78.13 m2)
Armament
Four 20-mm cannon and two 7.7-mm (0.303-in) machine-guns plus on 1,764-lb (800-kg) torpedo or 2,205 lb (1000 kg) of bombs.
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good link http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/mitsg4m.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/mitsg4m.html) :rock
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+1 with the option for a Bakka bomb :joystick:
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+1 with the option for a Bakka bomb :joystick:
WTFH is it with people and wanting to be able to ram into things for score?
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their are no good ankles to hump
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What do you think of this thing. I think it's to heavily armed to even come to the game. All planes have a weakness though,what's this planes weakness?
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This aircraft I say is more fighter then bomber including how many guns it has. Just think of it like a Me110,just Japanese ;)
Except that the G4M didn't have any fixed forward firing guns...
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Oh, silly Motherland! You forget who typed that! As if he actually knows what he's talking about? :huh
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What do you think of this thing. I think it's to heavily armed to even come to the game. All planes have a weakness though,what's this planes weakness?
It was called the "Honorable one shot lighter" for a reason.
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What do you think of this thing. I think it's to heavily armed to even come to the game. All planes have a weakness though,what's this planes weakness?
Like Karnak said, it has armor just like an A6M, and by that I mean virtually none. Secondly, the armament you posted was of an extremely late war model that we almost certainly wouldn't see. The model we would see when/if we get it would either have 4x 7.7mm and 1x 20mm or 4x 7.7mm and 2x 20mm.
On the other hand, it's actually a good request and the bomber would fill a nice hole in the Japanese Bomber plane set.
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A6M had more armor, in a way. At least the A6M's wing skin isn't also the fuel tank.
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You got to admit, the thought of the sight of massed formations of Bettys silhouetted against a clear blue sky trailing sheets of golden flame hundreds of feet long certainly sounds picturesque.
:D
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The sad thing about it is, Mitsubishi told the Imperial Navy that they couldn't make an effective bomber with the demanded range on only two engines. The Navy repeatedly denied Mitsubishi's request to go to a four engined design which would have allowed greater payload, armor and self sealing tanks while meeting the Navy's range requirement, but the Navy denied them each time. The customer got what the customer demanded and I doubt Avro, Junkers, Boeing or Tupolev could have done better given the customer demands.
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Why did the IJN want a twin engined aircraft? Supply concerns?
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Why did the IJN want a twin engined aircraft? Supply concerns?
I am not sure, but I expect it was concern over lack of experience operating four engined aircraft. It might also have been a cost issue.
Whatever it was, they were wrong and Mitsubishi was right.
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The Navy's requirements for the A6M and G4M were so steep that Nakajima didn't even try for the contracts. Mitsubishi may have been the only option, but even then the A6M1 failed to meet the Navy's speed requirements.
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WTFH is it with people and wanting to be able to ram into things for score?
The bakka bomb is for ships, not for ramming into your opponent in the air. Kamikaze is a not otherwise a viable tactic in AH.
From Wikipedia:
The only operational Ohka was the Type 11. Essentially a 1,200 kg (2,646 lb) bomb with wooden wings, powered by three Type 4 Model 1 Mark 20 solid-fuel rocket motors, the Type 11 achieved great speed but with limited range. This was problematic, as it required the slow, heavily-laden mother aircraft to approach within 37 km (20 nmi; 23 mi) of the target, making them very vulnerable to defending fighters. There was one experimental variant of the Type 11, the Type 21, which had thin steel wings manufactured by Nakajima.
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The bakka bomb is for ships, not for ramming into your opponent in the air. Kamikaze is a not otherwise a viable tactic in AH.
From Wikipedia:
The only operational Ohka was the Type 11. Essentially a 1,200 kg (2,646 lb) bomb with wooden wings, powered by three Type 4 Model 1 Mark 20 solid-fuel rocket motors, the Type 11 achieved great speed but with limited range. This was problematic, as it required the slow, heavily-laden mother aircraft to approach within 37 km (20 nmi; 23 mi) of the target, making them very vulnerable to defending fighters. There was one experimental variant of the Type 11, the Type 21, which had thin steel wings manufactured by Nakajima.
Fail
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Oh well, you're just not into sinking cruisers with a bakka bomb. I think it'd be fun. Racing across the wavetops at 500 mph without anyone being able to stop you (except the 5" gunners and autoack) gets the adrenaline primed for system dump. Of course, people would use it in roles it was never intended for...it's a game, nothing is as it was. Very limited range and hardly any controlability other than straight and level would make it a challenge to hit anything. No, I don't intentionally ram anything. I've been playing this game for 11 years now and I've never intentionally rammed anyone. I have hit the odd building or tree on occasion and clipped an opponent every now and again but that happens, I am NOT a Call of Duty/infinite life gamer.... I play to win and stay alive. The longer I live, the more fun I have. That may sound stranges but it's my $14.95.
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Ok, you get your kamikaze. And once you smash into a ship and explode yourself, your account is permanently closed and you can never come back again.
And if your large, vulnerable mothership is shot down en route to target? Well sorry, but you took off as a kamikaze.
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Ok, you get your kamikaze. And once you smash into a ship and explode yourself, your account is permanently closed and you can never come back again.
And if your large, vulnerable mothership is shot down en route to target? Well sorry, but you took off as a kamikaze.
With limited sight people such as you, I should think I'd be glad to have my account permanently deleted. I certainly won't be posting anything on any of these forums EVER again. Thanks for saving me some time and energy.
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I have hit the odd building or tree on occasion
I keep smacking into perfectly normal trees and buildings. ;)
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With limited sight people such as you, I should think I'd be glad to have my account permanently deleted. I certainly won't be posting anything on any of these forums EVER again. Thanks for saving me some time and energy.
Yeah, because the game would be made SO much better by dweebs in bomb-and-bail Lancstukas being able to inflict more damage by ramming their whole plane into the target.
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Would we want the Ohka,it's a jet yes. Was barely used and unsuccessful. First you gotta get a bomber close enough to the target. You gotta have no enemies around you so they won't get you as you glide down. Then your rockets ignite. Then you got dozens of 20mms,40mms and even if you get past that you got 5 inchers. Lastly you gotta ram into going 500mph or faster a couple feet off the water. After you do all that you still need like another 1000 pounds of ords to just sink a destroyer.
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Would we want the Ohka,it's a jet yes. Was barely used and unsuccessful. First you gotta get a bomber close enough to the target. You gotta have no enemies around you so they won't get you as you glide down. Then your rockets ignite. Then you got dozens of 20mms,40mms and even if you get past that you got 5 inchers. Lastly you gotta ram into going 500mph or faster a couple feet off the water. After you do all that you still need like another 1000 pounds of ords to just sink a destroyer.
Depends. One of them sank one of our DDs. Another punched through another DD's bow for minimal damage. Those are the only hits I know of.
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All conversations aside......
+1
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Lots of people do the same thing with fiters. Dive at 500 mph drop eggs crash, no difference than this bomber.
Semp
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As a perk loadout requiring the Ohka player to spend perks, only retaining them if the G4M lands with the Ohka still loaded. The death of the player is simulated by the loss of the perks.
This is about the only kamikaze mechanism I could see in the game. It is controlled by the perk price and is attached to a very vulnerable G4M2 delivery system.
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Wouldn't the Betty - Baka combo require two pilots?
How 'bout if the Baka crash did not generate damage points then perks would be lost. Or if the Betty did not rtb.
If the Baka did generate damage points, and the Betty got back to base, the perks could be saved. Heck, that double feat itself should generate a bunch of perks!
Will it happen in AH? Nahhh! :D
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Wouldn't the Betty - Baka combo require two pilots?
How 'bout if the Baka crash did not generate damage points then perks would be lost. Or if the Betty did not rtb.
If the Baka did generate damage points, and the Betty got back to base, the perks could be saved. Heck, that double feat itself should generate a bunch of perks!
Will it happen in AH? Nahhh! :D
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Yes, it would require two pilots as I see it. Could have a gunner as well for the G4M2. Perks would be lost if the Ohka was dropped, period. The perk loss is to simulate the pilot's death.