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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Phantomz on May 22, 2010, 01:35:45 AM
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It seems i am not getting mail due to the postman being afraid of a dog inside so now they refused to deliver it we have talked to everyone that we possibly can so my question is.. Does anyone know what it takes to open a P.O box?
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Go down to the post office and get a PO Box....
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keep the dog in the house in the moring? after noon?
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As a retired Letter Carrier, I can tell you that dogs are the number one safety issue. There are over 100,000 dog bites per year.
Go to your local Post office, fill out form, show ID, pay fee, get PO Box keys.
Make sure you have all your mail addressed to P.O. Box, otherwise they will return it to sender. Good Luck.
<S> Oz
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As a retired Letter Carrier, I can tell you that dogs are the number one safety issue. There are over 100,000 dog bites per year.
Go to your local Post office, fill out form, show ID, pay fee, get PO Box keys.
Make sure you have all your mail addressed to P.O. Box, otherwise they will return it to sender. Good Luck.
<S> Oz
Sorry Oz, but that really irks me. I know the dangers involved but...if his city/county ordinance allowed it he could move the mail box away from the house to lessen the danger. Making him pay for a p.o. box because the mail carriers can't smarten up is total b.s. Delivering mail is just like any other job, there are inherent risks that go with the job, either accept them or get out of it.
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Sorry Oz, but that really irks me. I know the dangers involved but...if his city/county ordinance allowed it he could move the mail box away from the house to lessen the danger. Making him pay for a p.o. box because the mail carriers can't smarten up is total b.s. Delivering mail is just like any other job, there are inherent risks that go with the job, either accept them or get out of it.
Nobody is "making" him get a PO Box. He needs to control his animals or make the path to the mailbox safe. I ran in to the same thing as a milk truck driver loading up at farms. Control your animals or no service.
Want your mail? Follow the rules. It's not that tough. Service people get paid to deliver the service, not get mauled by dogs. Unless, that is, your job is animal control officer.
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Thought he said the dog was "inside"?
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Sorry Oz, but that really irks me. I know the dangers involved but...if his city/county ordinance allowed it he could move the mail box away from the house to lessen the danger. Making him pay for a p.o. box because the mail carriers can't smarten up is total b.s. Delivering mail is just like any other job, there are inherent risks that go with the job, either accept them or get out of it.
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Nobody is "making" him get a PO Box. He needs to control his animals or make the path to the mailbox safe. I ran in to the same thing as a milk truck driver loading up at farms. Control your animals or no service.
Want your mail? Follow the rules. It's not that tough. Service people get paid to deliver the service, not get mauled by dogs. Unless, that is, your job is animal control officer.
Blooz, the dog is inside the house...how much more control does he need to exercise than that?
It seems i am not getting mail due to the postman being afraid of a dog inside so now they refused to deliver it we have talked to everyone that we possibly can so my question is.. Does anyone know what it takes to open a P.O box?
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Gotta agree with one of the opinions above... Why not build a mailbox away from the house or door a bit? If you are worried about your mail getting stolen, there are plenty of locking mailboxes you can buy and you can anchor it in brick or concrete. Buying or having a mailbox built for you is probably cheaper in the long run than getting a p.o. box.
If that isn't an option, then yea get a p.o. box. Owning pets can be expensive, and this might be just one more pet owner expense for you.
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If the dog is indoors when the postman arrives and is there until he leaves then I don't see what the problem is. Even if you have one of those door slots cut in and are using that instead of a mailbox (very rare these days) the dog still can't get to him (unless he is very small :D )
Personally I don't know what to tell you since you say you've called everyone and I am sure that they're policy is the man delivering the mail has the final say. Maybe see if there is a place you can move the mailbox to that is away from the house or at least away from any doors or windows. No matter what though I would call the post office to see what would be an acceptable alternative to getting a PO BOX. Getting one of those would mean regular trips to the PO not to mention that recurring charges associated with that.
Just out of curiosity what kind of dog is? Please don't tell me it is a Chihuahua.
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Is the dog inside of the house, or inside of a fenced yard? The OP does not say.
Many service delivery folks won't deliver to my house because my dog is in the yard, inside of the fence. I've no problems with this. They either leave me a note, or use their cell phones to call me and I escort them into the yard, or make arrangements to pick up the delivery. My mailbox is located outside of the fence, so i have no problems with postal delivery.
If your dog is inside of a fenced yard and the Post Office refuses to make delivery because the dog is in the yard then the solution is simple: put up a Post Office approve mailbox outside of the fence. If your dog is inside of the house during the mail delivery and the postal worker refuses to deliver the mail, then contact the Supervisor at your local Post Office and inform him, or her, of the situation, and work out a solution.
Just some thoughts...
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hahaha can u post a pic of ur dog?. them boys on deadliest catch would laugh at the postman :x let the postman watch usain bolt :salute
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I would go talk to the local post master , asap . Take photo's of mail box and door and dog inside and show the post master .
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The dog is inside the house. Its a German Sheppard its a decent sized dog. We have a security gate on the door. What irks me about the whole deal is before this guy started delivering we had a little old lady deliver and back then we had 2 dogs inside she would just wave as she walked by they would bark away and it wasnt an issue. Now this relitively young guy decent build is too scared? Give me a break. In this neighborhood we have dogs that run around the neighborhood isnt he afraid of them? I mean come on common sense maybe? If he is that afraid he shouldnt be out doing that job.
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Darn I really wanted to find out that the big bad postman was afraid of a chihuahua. :lol
That is really messed up. I assume that there have been no episodes where the dog was left out accidentally when the postman arrived. I know you said you called everyone. While on the phone did you ask them what you could do and describe to them that the dog is penned in the house by that security gate (I assume is one of those meshed steal gates that is as high as the door)?
Other than that the only thing I can suggest is what someone said earlier, try moving the mailbox away from the door. I know it is anoying that he is that much of a wimp but do really want to pay a recurring charge for a PO Box?
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Fedex guy called me made me come out to the road and they weren't my dogs! :rolleyes: My sis worked as a carrier, yes theres some dumb people out there. If the dogs in the house I don't see what the problem is ?
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This "security gate". It's right next to the mailbox, ain't it?
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Yes.. The dog is completely secure inside the house there is really no excuse for it.
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OK. So closing the front door would solve the problem? That would seem easier than getting a PO Box but that's up to you.
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The door is always closed.. In Az we have this thing called a dry heat and we enjoy our A/C lol
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Government employees are the whiniest, laziest, most overpaid sob's I've ever met in my life. The only they work half as hard as someone in the private sector is near quitting time :mad:
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The door is always closed.. In Az we have this thing called a dry heat and we enjoy our A/C lol
OK. So is the yard knee deep in dog poo or something? There's obviously more to the problem than what we've read here. The postal delivery person is in danger of....what? Doors are closed, windows are closed, dog inside, what's outside keeping the mailman at bay? If all this were true the mail would be delivered. There's got to be more to this story. Has the dog been a problem for the postal delivery people in the past? Do you have a history of some sort?
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Government employees are the whiniest, laziest, most overpaid sob's I've ever met in my life. The only they work half as hard as someone in the private sector is near quitting time :mad:
Go work for the post office and you'll sing a different tune. Of all the jobs I've held that was the only .gov job and it was, by far, the hardest. Quitting time wasn't a clock, it was when the day's mail was all delivered.
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Lets see how i can put this... Our yard is fenced in but its seperate from the walkway. He can walk up the driveway past the garage onto another cement path that is the front porch. We have had many mail people before this guy thats never had a problem with at that time our 2 dogs since then 1 has passed. Now this guy comes i guess he had a dog attack him once or something but it wasnt our dog we have never had an issue before. So my deal is if he is this afraid of being out there where a dog is barking at him why is he still in that field? He should be doing an inside job then. Our house is secure there is no way a dog can get to him and if a little old lady can do it for years and wave at 2 barking dogs what is his problem? Its pure insanity.
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I would definitely call the PO again and very respectfully and politely ask what the mailman has a problem with as far as the dog and what their suggestion is as far as being able to get the mail delivered. Of course this would be after explaining everything you just did this time.
When making this next phone call be sure to speak with the postmaster and tell him the whole nine yards including the very secure security gate, the walk up to the door, and the fact that the dog is inside when the mailman arrives.
If everything you have said in here is totally true I can't really see how anyone would deny you your mail delivery, as long as you speak to the postmaster like a respectful citizen.
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Yeah this makes no sense, when you called did you tell them that the dog is secured inside the house with the doors closed when he is delivering the mail, and they're still saying that you have to do something?
I mean what kinda issue can there possibly be with the dog inside the house when the mail is being delivered? I mean what, is he doing this to ever house that has a dog in it, that's a lot of houses on his route I'm sure, I'd be very interested to know how many houses he's refusing to deliver to.
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Government employees are the whiniest, laziest, most overpaid sob's I've ever met in my life. The only they work half as hard as someone in the private sector is near quitting time angry
Be careful in generalizing...I was once a government worker and very darned few in the private sector would have volunteered to do my job. But then, I suppose that's what makes Marines, Marines, and others...others.
Perhaps you need to think before you slander.
Just a thought...
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Be careful in generalizing...I was once a government worker and very darned few in the private sector would have volunteered to do my job. But then, I suppose that's what makes Marines, Marines, and others...others.
Perhaps you need to think before you slander.
Just a thought...
I don't think anyone is dumb enough to compare a Marine to a DMV worker
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Get your bills via email.... and make sure all friends and family get your email address too.
make sure anyone sending you packages..uses fedex or ups.
issue solved.
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Go work for the post office and you'll sing a different tune. Of all the jobs I've held that was the only .gov job and it was, by far, the hardest. Quitting time wasn't a clock, it was when the day's mail was all delivered.
I will never have a problem with the letter sorters or mail delivery workers, as I realize they have a hard job with high standards. On the other hand, I've had to go to the New Britain Post Office every single morning for the past ten years, and I will never, ever understand why some of their counter workers are still employed.
Every single time I see a small tan paper in that P.O. Box, a little piece of me dies.
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Sorry Oz, but that really irks me. I know the dangers involved but...if his city/county ordinance allowed it he could move the mail box away from the house to lessen the danger. Making him pay for a p.o. box because the mail carriers can't smarten up is total b.s. Delivering mail is just like any other job, there are inherent risks that go with the job, either accept them or get out of it.
It's not "the mail carrier smartening up " It's the people who have dogs and repeatedly allow the dog to run loose, or be out when Mailman is around. Dog is inside house, must be something else too. Did you piss of regular carrier? Sometimes the Subs really don't care/ want to be there and create problems too. Also, i've had dogs push through screens, push open storm doors, jump through windows, etc. The Post Office will normally give the owners several opportunities to rectify the problem. As in almost all dog bite situations/lawsuits, owners are liable for not controlling their pets. I would be happy to pay for a P.O. Box, as opposed to paying out potentially tens of thousands of dollars in a lawsuit which dog owners almost always lose. I love dogs, don't know what it is with the mailman suit and dogs, but it's always been that way.
Best bet; keep contol of your dogs.
<S> Oz
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Well said Oz ...
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Thats the thing the dog is controlled. Dude is scared of whatever has happened to him before and now anytime he sees a dog its an excuse for him. My point is if he is that paranoid about it he needs to find another type of work or get transferred inside. Today i counted 3 dogs running around in the neighborhood about the same time he was delivering he didnt seem to have an issue then go figure.
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Last time I had a problem with the Post Office, it was the biggest hassle to try and get it solved. Everyone I talked to didn't know what the problem was, didn't know how to rectify it, and wasn't responsible for the problem. There seems to be no accountability and no commitment to their job, at least with the people I talked too. This was only one experience so others might have a different impression but I dread going to the Post Office, grumpy workers who just don't understand how people can't understand how the system works. If I have to send more than an envelope, I try to head to UPS. It's a little more costly but I've been very happy with their service.
Overall my only advice would be for you to judge how much effort you want to put into this just for the principle of it. You may be right, but good luck convincing everyone you have to talk to of that.
I think the USPS needs a major revamping, I don't see a postal service of some kind becoming completely obsolete in the near future, but it is becoming less and less important. Are they able to balance a constant growing population that needs to be reached while still seeing a decline in the amount of mail being sent?
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Government employees are the whiniest, laziest, most overpaid sob's I've ever met in my life. The only they work half as hard as someone in the private sector is near quitting time :mad:
Most of the people that say these untrue things are people who have been denied employment by the Federal government. A lot of Fed employees are vets. Many are disabled vets,like me.
<S> Oz
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Last time I had a problem with the Post Office, it was the biggest hassle to try and get it solved. Everyone I talked to didn't know what the problem was, didn't know how to rectify it, and wasn't responsible for the problem. There seems to be no accountability and no commitment to their job, at least with the people I talked too. This was only one experience so others might have a different impression but I dread going to the Post Office, grumpy workers who just don't understand how people can't understand how the system works. If I have to send more than an envelope, I try to head to UPS. It's a little more costly but I've been very happy with their service.
Overall my only advice would be for you to judge how much effort you want to put into this just for the principle of it. You may be right, but good luck convincing everyone you have to talk to of that.
I think the USPS needs a major revamping, I don't see a postal service of some kind becoming completely obsolete in the near future, but it is becoming less and less important. Are they able to balance a constant growing population that needs to be reached while still seeing a decline in the amount of mail being sent?
I totally agree. The Post Service (Mis) Management is destroying the vital service that is given to EVERY address in the country. The clerical people in the office are so discusted with the Superviser, Postmaster who
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on a daily basis, verbally abuse, ridicule, harrass, and attempt to get you to do more and more with less people within their own time figures, regardless of safety or well-being, so they can get their bonuses. Postal management is along the lines of "Dictatorship". They violate contracts (and pay thousands in grievance settlements) on a daily basis., to appease their bosses by pushing volume of(junk mail). A lot of clerks are grumpy and such, some downright rude, true.
When you go in next time, you see 1 clerk behind counter with a line. Sure, there should be 3.
Well, blame that on the Management chain, who does scheduling, hiring, etc.
If you have a problem with your Post Office, bypass everyone else ask for the Postmaster. Make him do his job by fixing the problem, instead of him out on the town, having a leisurely lunch, or playing golf on his work computer.
<S> Oz
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Most of the people that say these untrue things are people who have been denied employment by the Federal government. A lot of Fed employees are vets. Many are disabled vets,like me.
They aren't "untrue." They also aren't "universal." It all depends on the office in question. Some government employees are terrible, and others do a great job. I wouldn't be surprised to find most vets are the latter. I also don't think being a vet gives you a golden ticket to be free from all expectations and criticism for the rest of your life.