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Title: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: zarkov on May 22, 2010, 03:57:49 PM
The head position of the Sopwith Camel's pilot seems a little high; it's significantly over the windshield.
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: gyrene81 on May 22, 2010, 04:31:21 PM
It's so you can taste the oil...make sure it's fresh.

Here's a vid that shows some close views of a pilot in the cockpit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22o010KJje4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22o010KJje4&feature=related)
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: infowars on May 22, 2010, 04:34:41 PM
Are you guys talking about a WWI plane? 

Who flies those?
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: zarkov on May 23, 2010, 12:00:54 AM
It's so you can taste the oil...make sure it's fresh.

Here's a vid that shows some close views of a pilot in the cockpit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22o010KJje4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22o010KJje4&feature=related)

I just looked at it.  The pilot's head is right behind the windshield, where it belongs, not a foot over it.
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: gyrene81 on May 23, 2010, 01:13:59 AM
Check again sir....if u look real close, that windscreen is about 18 inches or so high and his chin is about level with the top when he is sitting upright not slouched over...there are a couple of other videos that show the same thing. Besides, you would not want to be looking through that windscreen.
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: froger on May 23, 2010, 01:25:55 AM
Are you guys talking about a WWI plane? 

Who flies those?

just thinkin that my self  :old:
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: Max on May 23, 2010, 08:16:50 AM
Are you guys talking about a WWI plane? 


Is there a WW2 Sopwith Camel I don't know about?
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: zarkov on May 23, 2010, 11:44:24 PM
Check again sir....if u look real close, that windscreen is about 18 inches or so high and his chin is about level with the top when he is sitting upright not slouched over...there are a couple of other videos that show the same thing. Besides, you would not want to be looking through that windscreen.

It doesn't make any sense to have the windscreen placed such that it obstructs the passage of air hitting the pilot's chest instead of his chin.

I suspect that the pilot is either freakishly tall or he's sitting on a phone book.

I've seen period photos of various WWI air-craft and the biggest argument for the head being too high in AH2 in the Sopwith Camel is that in every photo I've seen, the gun-sight lines up with the windshield, not above it.
Title: Re: Sopwtih Camel Pilot Head Position
Post by: AWwrgwy on May 24, 2010, 12:39:06 AM
It doesn't make any sense to have the windscreen placed such that it obstructs the passage of air hitting the pilot's chest instead of his chin.

I suspect that the pilot is either freakishly tall or he's sitting on a phone book.

I've seen period photos of various WWI air-craft and the biggest argument for the head being too high in AH2 in the Sopwith Camel is that in every photo I've seen, the gun-sight lines up with the windshield, not above it.

The windshield isn't designed to obstruct anything.  It is designed to redirect the air over the pilot.

Example:

Racing Shelby Cobra

(http://www.tampabayshelby.com/newsite/img/csx7000.jpg)

Notice the relationship of the "pilot" to the windscreen.

Another example:

motorcycle

(http://image.baggersmag.com/f/18663214+w750+st0/0908_hrbp_20_z+2009_harley_davidson_street_glide_flhx+new_windshield.jpg)

The "pilot" still looks over the windscreen which redirects the air over his head.

You're over thinking things.  It's WW I.  They're not in a car, protected from the elements.


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