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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Getback on May 27, 2010, 10:53:28 AM
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Its work! Been exercising 3 - 5 times a week and then I started my garden. Oh lordy, right now I am drenched in sweat, my back hurts, and I cannot drink enough water. I hand dug the thing which is about 20 by 20. Then I hoed a small part of it. Got a nice blister and said hey Ma' can I borrow your tiller. Well its a little cutie, being electric and all. That thing was bouncing all over the place. Only problem is I have hold on to it with one hand and manage the extension cord with the other. Still better than the hoe though.
I best get to hitting it again.
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See? even in real life the HO(e) and HO(eing) suck. :D
And so far as the bouncing tiller goes....have you tried re-calibrating it?
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See? even in real life the HO(e) and HO(eing) suck. :D
And so far as the bouncing tiller goes....have you tried re-calibrating it?
:rofl :rofl :rofl Well I would if it was a solid CH Product.
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(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/MiniTiller.jpg)
The mighty mini. Lordy that was work!
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The ground is to dry. Are you going to mixed your soil with compose or top soil?
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The ground is to dry. Are you going to mixed your soil with compose or top soil?
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My garden is way smaller and use my mom's gas powered Mantis. It's about the same size and my garden has been in place for 12 years now and I still get some bouncing. That's a LOT of work you got going on there. Sure your gonna sleep good tonight.
With the Mantis, I found pulling it towards you creates less bouncing and digs in deeper, but it doesn't have wheels on the back, just a movable kickstand.
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Going thru that sod with that little tiller, wow..a rear tine tiller been a better choice,but I suppose the cost would be expensive to rent.
If you break more sod a suggestion would be to spray round up on the grass and kill it off before tilling.
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Going thru that sod with that little tiller, wow..a rear tine tiller been a better choice,but I suppose the cost would be expensive to rent.
If you break more sod a suggestion would be to spray round up on the grass and kill it off before tilling.
I believe the dryness and compaction of the ground is where he will run into more work. What he needs to do is get a foot and a half or two feet into the ground and mixed it up with compose or top soil.
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Going thru that sod with that little tiller, wow..a rear tine tiller been a better choice,but I suppose the cost would be expensive to rent.
If you break more sod a suggestion would be to spray round up on the grass and kill it off before tilling.
I was thinking the same thing, I'm doing my garden soon it's about 20x35 i have a front tine tiller about 2.5 hp works great on already established gardens, but breaking new ground it will thrash ya around, i called our local rental place and they quoted me for a 5hp rear tine tiller full day $52 or half day for $28, I reserved one for Sat pickup and he told me they wont be open Sun or Mon so return it Tuesday, darn good deal if you ask me lol,,, looks similar to this pic
(http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s35/68zoom/BCS_5HP_Tiller_710.jpg)
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The ground is to dry. Are you going to mixed your soil with compose or top soil?
Welp, I believe that is an excellent idea but no not going to. I'll do the planting and then add liquid fertilizer. Always worked before. The gournd is quite wet under those clods. I may start a compost pile this summer for next year though.
Did get my corn in today, but holy cow this old man's muscles have quit working. Going to use square foot gardening for many of the other plants like bush beans, onions, carrots etc.
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Welp, I believe that is an excellent idea but no not going to. I'll do the planting and then add liquid fertilizer. Always worked before. The gournd is quite wet under those clods. I may start a compost pile this summer for next year though.
Did get my corn in today, but holy cow this old man's muscles have quit working. Going to use square foot gardening for many of the other plants like bush beans, onions, carrots etc.
The soil that is below the clods, is it clay or is the soil compacted? What is the depth of the area of soil? I asked because if you have clay like soil or that soil is compacted, you will need that foot and half to two death to have lose soil for a better root system of the plants. If the roots can not go deep, you will not have the a good growth.
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All types of pepper plants can be grown in big drywall mud buckets. I do this every year and them bring them inside during the winter and put them back out on the deck in the spring. AMlost NO slugs, few caterpillars, and almost NO weeds. The weeds that pop up are quickly plucked out with little effort. I had a 10 year old habenero but the heavy rain last summer killed it before I could get it to safety. I have 5 that made it frm last uear. They are 4 feet tall and growing like weeds--already putting out peppers as we speak.
Also: onions, spices, herbs, work well in big buckets.
ROX
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The soil that is below the clods, is it clay or is the soil compacted? What is the depth of the area of soil? I asked because if you have clay like soil or that soil is compacted, you will need that foot and half to two death to have lose soil for a better root system of the plants. If the roots can not go deep, you will not have the a good growth.
The soil is fairly loose for about a foot, about the length of the shovel head. That is plenty in my humble opinion because this old man is not digging any deeper. There is clay at about, my guess, a foot and half. Most of the soil above that is top soil.
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The soil is fairly loose for about a foot, about the length of the shovel head. That is plenty in my humble opinion because this old man is not digging any deeper. There is clay at about, my guess, a foot and half. Most of the soil above that is top soil.
CC, not sure where you are. Just keep in mind that comapced soil slows down root growth and drainage is slow.
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I started my garden a few years ago the same way as the OP here. The best thing I ever did was mix in heavy amounts of mushroom mulch after tilling it the first time to loosen up the ground. That stuff gave me the best harvest I ever had.
I use the same tiller that you have posted in here and it works but it takes a long time and it is alot of work but worth it in the end.
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My wife's garden is doing well. Peas, carrots, various herbs coming up. Tomatoes are started, and Lord knows what else she's got going.
My project, money-permitting with my crappy job, is staring at me at my front door. Intend on getting pasture grasses started on most of the six acres out yonder. Would like to raise a couple of beef steers for the dinner plate and to sell. Been piecing it together since Dad died last year.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs296.snc3/28464_1333246968868_1161866757_30818262_3301088_n.jpg)
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My wife's garden is doing well. Peas, carrots, various herbs coming up. Tomatoes are started, and Lord knows what else she's got going.
My project, money-permitting with my crappy job, is staring at me at my front door. Intend on getting pasture grasses started on most of the six acres out yonder. Would like to raise a couple of beef steers for the dinner plate and to sell. Been piecing it together since Dad died last year.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs296.snc3/28464_1333246968868_1161866757_30818262_3301088_n.jpg)
That's an awesome farm thndregg! I am jealous.
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My wife's garden is doing well. Peas, carrots, various herbs coming up. Tomatoes are started, and Lord knows what else she's got going.
My project, money-permitting with my crappy job, is staring at me at my front door. Intend on getting pasture grasses started on most of the six acres out yonder. Would like to raise a couple of beef steers for the dinner plate and to sell. Been piecing it together since Dad died last year.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs296.snc3/28464_1333246968868_1161866757_30818262_3301088_n.jpg)
Go to the conservation office for assistance or country extension offices. they may give you advise what tot do.
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I have most everything planted except odds and ends, about 2 pounds triple sweet corn, 20 tomatoes, pound of beans, 50 pounds potatoes, various peppers, herbs (basil), onions, squash, pumpkins,radishes, and 3 pounds feed corn for the deer or whatever else gets hungry.
I use a old john deere model 99 2 row planter converted to 3 point (originally horsedrawn).
I also made a 3 point implement ( needs work yet) to make windrows, works fast for potatoes, squash, onions. For bedding plants, I use a cordless drill with a 3 inch auger.
Just for fun back in March here in Wisconsin, there was quite awarm spell and with so many potatoes left over, I planted my first row of potatoes. Even after the tops being frosted off so many times the potatos are still growing.
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Just to make a side note, years ago with a smaller garden and heavy clay, I used gypsum to help break up the soil. This would be expensive for a larger size garden.
I have used compost, old silage, cow manure in the garden I have now and it still can get pretty hard being clay. What is great, when its hot and dry everything keeps growing. Having heavy clay though does restrict somethings which I cannot get to grow.
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I'm going to have to make the garden bigger or I want get all the veggies I purchased in. Uhg!
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(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Garden060710.jpg)
Its done! Worked on it for over 7 hours yesterday. Its not pretty but who cares. Planted Peas, Corn, Carrots, Lettuce, 2 types of onions, pole beans, bush beans, tomatoes, peppers, and broccoli. Still had cherry tomatoes and more pepper seeds but the heck with that. I can't move today.
Was in a panic mode Sunday when I saw the Bush beans had shot up about 5 inches. That's about the size they were when the rabbits hate them a couple of years ago, hence the fence.
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Year 1 is always ugly. I farm about 1000 acres and first year out of sod is a mess. I dont spray so I fight the little green blades for a year. This year however in ole W Wa has been so wet I cant plant anything except the garden.
Grind that garden up good in the fall. You'll be a lot happier next spring.
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My wife's garden is doing well. Peas, carrots, various herbs coming up. Tomatoes are started, and Lord knows what else she's got going.
My project, money-permitting with my crappy job, is staring at me at my front door. Intend on getting pasture grasses started on most of the six acres out yonder. Would like to raise a couple of beef steers for the dinner plate and to sell. Been piecing it together since Dad died last year.
(http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs296.snc3/28464_1333246968868_1161866757_30818262_3301088_n.jpg)
Looks like you've put alot of work into that thndregg nice garden.
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Thanks, but what the pic shows is just what will be decent pasture, eventually. Right now money is really tight. Therefore it's taking a long time to get to where I would like to be as far as raising food for our family table.
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Year 1 is always ugly. I farm about 1000 acres and first year out of sod is a mess. I dont spray so I fight the little green blades for a year. This year however in ole W Wa has been so wet I cant plant anything except the garden.
Grind that garden up good in the fall. You'll be a lot happier next spring.
I'm going to take you up on that last suggestion.
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(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Cucumbers.jpg)
Planted these cucumbers on June 7. Looked at the hills yesterday and nada. Then today the rascals popped up and inch or better
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Gardenday180612.jpg)
Starting to look like a real garden. Started digging on May 25. So this is day 18. Not sure when I planted everything. The corn was first and the first 8 tomato plants the next day I think.
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You should get some cages for the tomatoes, keep them off the ground.
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You should get some cages for the tomatoes, keep them off the ground.
I looked into cages and they were too expensive in my humble opinion. I'll stake them in about another week.
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Are you going forward or walking backward with the tiller? Those tillers with front mounted tines don't bounce hardly at all when you go backward and they till deeper that way. I figured that out myself this spring while doing my garden. :aok
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One day the rains came and washed all the crops away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rhy2rBqrao
The peas popped out of the ground and some tomatoes fell over. Back yard is like a swamp and more rain today.
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/PoppedPeas.jpg)
Tomatoes fell, Time for stake and maybe a little more dirt.
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/TomatoesFellover.jpg)
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looks good :aok if you have kids tell them the weeds are waiting for them :rofl there is nothing better than home grown veggies, i look forward all year long to fresh tomatoes, corn, watermellon, potatoes, zuccini, cucumbers and pea's, my fruit tress are still a few years out from producing anything worth eatting, but the wait will be worth it
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One day the rains came and washed all the crops away.
Yea, staking is going to help. Next year you may also want to consider creating raised rows, making small ditches in between each row. It's more work, but significantly aids in drainage and can save you if you live in an area prone to heavy rains. However, it works better with smaller crops that don't have massive root systems. (http://tedspace.net/Raised%20Rows%20001.jpg)
If you want to step up the time / money investment one more level, you can always go with raised beds as well.
Jayhawk, once you get some funding I'd consider some tall fescue grass for that plot. http://www.seedland.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Seedland&Product_Code=FES-KENTUCKY32-50&Category_Code=FES-LOWENDO (http://www.seedland.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Seedland&Product_Code=FES-KENTUCKY32-50&Category_Code=FES-LOWENDO) is one type. It's a pretty common pasture seed, and can be grown in a wide variety of climates. You can also try to just propagate whatever grass is naturally growing, but that doesn't always end well. Either way, I'd grab a soil sample of your area so you know what kind of growing conditions you are looking at. Kansas State has a great extension service, so I'd give them a call. I also work with a couple feed and fodder / grazing specialists, so I could possibly hook you up with one of them for some advice if you are interested.
:rock on, growers.
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You should get those stakes in soon and drive them deep, by waiting you could possibly drive the stake through the root system. I use heavy duty cages and stake them to keep them from tipping over.
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Yea, staking is going to help. Next year you may also want to consider creating raised rows, making small ditches in between each row. It's more work, but significantly aids in drainage and can save you if you live in an area prone to heavy rains. However, it works better with smaller crops that don't have massive root systems. (http://tedspace.net/Raised%20Rows%20001.jpg)
If you want to step up the time / money investment one more level, you can always go with raised beds as well.
Jayhawk, once you get some funding I'd consider some tall fescue grass for that plot. http://www.seedland.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Seedland&Product_Code=FES-KENTUCKY32-50&Category_Code=FES-LOWENDO (http://www.seedland.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=Seedland&Product_Code=FES-KENTUCKY32-50&Category_Code=FES-LOWENDO) is one type. It's a pretty common pasture seed, and can be grown in a wide variety of climates. You can also try to just propagate whatever grass is naturally growing, but that doesn't always end well. Either way, I'd grab a soil sample of your area so you know what kind of growing conditions you are looking at. Kansas State has a great extension service, so I'd give them a call. I also work with a couple feed and fodder / grazing specialists, so I could possibly hook you up with one of them for some advice if you are interested.
:rock on, growers.
You gotta respect that!
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AH garden club!
Well I don't have the acreage you guys have as I'm in little ol' England but after 25 years I have just started to grow my own stuff again.
Front of the house was covered in wisteria, looked nice when out but the roots were getting into the foundations so it had to go
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/DWAsleep.jpg?t=1276715556)
I have started really small just some salad and some runner beans
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/Image019.jpg?t=1276715622)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/Image020.jpg?t=1276715663)
but big plans for next year! - had a machine dig out an old flower bed (wrecked the lawn but it's recovering) and will put some raised beds in for next year (wood is only temporary atm, will get some sleepers). Digging it out atm and have a couple of bins of horse watermelon to go in when its broken down a bit)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/Image021.jpg?t=1276715795)
looking to grow cauliflower, cabbage, leeks, maybe some sweetcorn. I'm in Dorset (southern England), its a pretty mild climate
I mean, I should grow something, in the 1950's my house was the local village garden nursery (old 1960's aerial pic) (all the land was sold off for development in the 1970's, I bought it in 1995)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/house1963a.jpg?t=1276715875)
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AH garden club!
Well I don't have the acreage you guys have as I'm in little ol' England but after 25 years I have just started to grow my own stuff again.
Front of the house was covered in wisteria, looked nice when out but the roots were getting into the foundations so it had to go
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/DWAsleep.jpg?t=1276715556)
I have started really small just some salad and some runner beans
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/Image019.jpg?t=1276715622)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/Image020.jpg?t=1276715663)
but big plans for next year! - had a machine dig out an old flower bed (wrecked the lawn but it's recovering) and will put some raised beds in for next year (wood is only temporary atm, will get some sleepers). Digging it out atm and have a couple of bins of horse watermelon to go in when its broken down a bit)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/Image021.jpg?t=1276715795)
looking to grow cauliflower, cabbage, leeks, maybe some sweetcorn. I'm in Dorset (southern England), its a pretty mild climate
I mean, I should grow something, in the 1950's my house was the local village garden nursery (old 1960's aerial pic) (all the land was sold off for development in the 1970's, I bought it in 1995)
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a174/Dorsetdave/House/house1963a.jpg?t=1276715875)
That would be Pole Beans here.
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Day 29, there are a couple of tomatoes in there somewhere.
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Garden062410.jpg)
Here they are!
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Babytomato.jpg)
Here's the enemy. A rabbit ate several of my bean plants that were outside the fence. So I bought some rabbit be-gone.
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Theenemy.jpg)
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My wife's garden project. The pic is not the best at this angle.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/3151/1000285v.jpg)
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Higher than knee high!
(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/GardenJuly4.jpg)