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Title: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: humble on May 28, 2010, 09:18:22 PM
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Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: USRanger on May 28, 2010, 10:47:06 PM
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Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Brentlo on May 28, 2010, 11:24:54 PM
It really was enjoyable.  Keep your head on a swivel.  Several times I heard em before I saw em!!!
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: jimson on May 29, 2010, 02:05:01 AM
Indeed, it's the only place I fly now. :salute
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Slash27 on May 29, 2010, 02:25:19 AM
I take full credit. :bolt:
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: humble on May 29, 2010, 09:31:05 AM
I'd love to see that carried over to the MWA or EWA as well.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Lusche on May 29, 2010, 09:32:23 AM
I'd love to see that carried over to the MWA or EWA as well.

Keep that stuff to the AvA please.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: FiLtH on May 29, 2010, 10:05:08 AM
 I prefer icons.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Oldman731 on May 29, 2010, 10:10:48 AM
I prefer icons.

I don't think there's any serious possibility that no-icons will spread beyond the AvA, Filth.

Hope you come in to see what it's like, though.  Could use one of your bomber missions.

- oldman
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: BaldEagl on May 29, 2010, 10:18:14 AM
Tried it when the WWI planes were in there.  Didn't like it.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: gyrene81 on May 29, 2010, 11:42:03 AM
Tried it when the WWI planes were in there.  Didn't like it.
LOL...buy a bigger monitor and try it again.  :D  I think Chilli or Chewie (one of the two) uses a laptop...talk about having to be squinty eyed. SA and comms are a must. Adjusting your sounds helps a lot too. Personaly I think a couple of hours in the AvA makes jumping into the MAs a bit easier.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Lusche on May 29, 2010, 11:45:41 AM
Adjusting your sounds helps a lot too.

Yayyy.. Compensating "no icons" by turning internal engine sounds down so that you can hear enemy plane approaching from 3 miles away...  Now that's realism!  :aok
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: gyrene81 on May 29, 2010, 11:55:31 AM
Yayyy.. Compensating "no icons" by turning internal engine sounds down so that you can hear enemy plane approaching from 3 miles away...  Now that's realism!  :aok
Uh...no, quite the contrary...but think what you wish. I know quite a few people who never go to the AvA that have their internal engine sounds nearly muted and they're not afraid to admit it.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: humble on May 29, 2010, 01:56:20 PM
To me it shows just how artificial our perception of ACM really is, huge difference IMO...
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Oldman731 on May 29, 2010, 03:55:20 PM
To me it shows just how artificial our perception of ACM really is, huge difference IMO...

It IS a huge difference, one that makes real WWII pilot accounts more comprehensible.  Breaking off an engagement can actually happen even if your plane is slower than his.  Camouflage plays a real role.  The fights and the gunnery are closer, not much 600 yard trick shooting.  BnZ tactics work for the planes they historically worked for (apologies for this sentence).  So many new things.

- oldman
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: USRanger on May 29, 2010, 05:02:25 PM
I think the no icons is very fun.  It only works in the AvA or special events because of planesets.  I really like having to get up close to visually identify the bad guy you are facing.  I hope it stays a permanent feature and people will come check it out, at least once.  Let's see how good some of you ubers really are without your icon crutch. :D  The new AvA terrain team is also hard at work at making AvA-only terrains that will be smaller, highly custom & built specifically for the two sided type of play.  Give it a chance folks.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Kermit de frog on May 29, 2010, 05:05:37 PM
mmm cookies...

Viel Glück with your terrain making AvA!  It sounds promising.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: USRanger on May 29, 2010, 05:12:21 PM
Thx Kermit.  I've got a great group of guys that are serious about it & I can't wait to knock the community's socks off with some of the stuff in production.  Will take a little time but well worth it for the finished product.  We're trying to make the AvA something really special.
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Slash27 on May 29, 2010, 06:01:02 PM
Yayyy.. Compensating "no icons" by turning internal engine sounds down so that you can hear enemy plane approaching from 3 miles away...  Now that's realism!  :aok

 :cry
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: SAJ73 on May 29, 2010, 06:15:47 PM
Thx Kermit.  I've got a great group of guys that are serious about it & I can't wait to knock the community's socks off with some of the stuff in production.  Will take a little time but well worth it for the finished product.  We're trying to make the AvA something really special.

Yeah!!  :x

I am really looking forward to seeing the future development in the AvA arena. I was not aware that you were part of the AvA terrain team USRanger until I read this post, but now I am REALLY looking forward to see what's coming!  :O

As to the no icon thing I have to say I think its a thrill to fly in the AvA just because there are no icons! And I use a 15" laptop, but I have my engine sound muted to about 37. Always, no matter what arena! Because I've found that to be the best setting for my headset, was getting tired of the constant engine roar at full volume..  :rolleyes:

The only thing keeping me from having a maximum great time in AvA is the random low framerates I get in there. Sometimes they are too low to even think about fighting, when it is down to like 10frps.. Then I go find me another arena to play in.  :frown:
Title: Re: No enemy icons in AvA is a hoot...and well worth trying
Post by: Dawger on May 30, 2010, 08:22:52 AM
No icons is great fun and the fights can be more intense.

Last night I was firmly in control of a fight with a 109 and I lost sight of him in the terrain because of some low lying fog. Reviewing the film I was only 600 yards behind him when he was lost in the ground clutter of a few buildings. I did not reacquire him until he broke and his planform was showing.

It was a very long 10 seconds.

While no icons has no place in a Main Arena setting it certainly is great fun and an excellent change of pace.

Most people won't enjoy it as a steady diet and some hate it it completely but if you have flown no icons give it a try in the AvA.