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Title: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: FarDown2 on May 29, 2010, 12:41:08 PM
i wish fly aces high 2 would bring the b29 in to  the battle just with heavier bombs.Andthe b25c taking off carriers like in the movie  :salute
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Jayhawk on May 29, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qga5eONXU_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qga5eONXU_4)
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 29, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
This is why we can't have nice things
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Wildcat1 on May 29, 2010, 02:13:18 PM
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/got20squeakers20cropped23.jpg)
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/NoB29.jpg)

now wake me up when summer is over :rolleyes:
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: oakranger on May 29, 2010, 02:33:04 PM
i wish fly aces high 2 would bring the b29 in to  the battle just with heavier bombs and aslo the b25c taking off carriers like in the movie  :salute

"bring the b29 in to  the battle just with heavier bombs"---- :huh  

"b25c taking off carriers like in the movie"--Since when dose Hitech have AC that go base off a "Idiotwood" movie?  And how many times do you thing the U.S. launch the B-25 of a CV during the war?  


DAM SQUEAKERS
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Jayhawk on May 29, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
i wish fly aces high 2 would bring the b29 in to  the battle just with heavier bombs and aslo the b25c taking off carriers like in the movie  :salute

If you are wondering why everyone is dogging on you (including me), here are three reasons.

1) You have a very poorly worded post, especially for your first post on these boards.  It's hard to read, and no one will take you seriously if they have to decipher what you wrote.

2) The B-29 has been on this wishlist literally hundreds of times, if you use that handy "search" box in the upper right hand corner you'd find that.

3)  You didn't back up your wish with any historical information, "like in the movie" will not suffice.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: FarDown2 on May 29, 2010, 02:45:17 PM
they got to add the b29 plus i think its the pearl harbor movie their both friends in the movie and they borth launched off carriers with b25s with low fuel and they wreck when they bombed the factory :aok
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Jayhawk on May 29, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
they got to add the b29 plus i think its the pearl harbor movie their both friends in the movie and they borth launched off carriers with b25s with low fuel and they wreck when they bombed the factory :aok

You should go meet a guy by the name of AKAK, he talks a big game but I bet you can beat him in a dogfight.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on May 29, 2010, 02:53:42 PM
they got to add the b29 plus i think its the pearl harbor movie their both friends in the movie and they borth launched off carriers with b25s with low fuel and they wreck when they bombed the factory :aok
The only thing that "got" to happen is you learning grammar and spelling. Do some research too. If you don't mind taking off from an underscaled aircraft carrier with a short deck, in a completely disarmed B-25 with only 100% fuel option and 2500 pounds of bombs...you can do it in offline mode. And it didn't happen the way the movie says it did.

As for the B-29 without saying "it's cool", "it would be cool", or anything of that nature, give one good reason for having it in Aces High (not fly aces high 2).




You should go meet a guy by the name of AKAK, he talks a big game but I bet you can beat him in a dogfight.
ROFLMAO...a fishing we will go, a fishing we will go, hi ho the merry o a fishing we will go...  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl
Nice one Jayhawk.  :aok
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: oakranger on May 29, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
You should go meet a guy by the name of AKAK, he talks a big game but I bet you can beat him in a dogfight.

I am getting some popcorn, drink, snow-caps really, really going to enjoy this. 
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: bagrat on May 29, 2010, 05:08:22 PM
lol yes b-25's just like on the movie pearl harbor. and can u change the pilots in the plane so they will look like ben afleck an matt damon....so it will be historicaly correct
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: fbWldcat on May 29, 2010, 05:20:45 PM
Maybe a time travelling Carrier can go back to when Pearl Harbor happened.  :D
God knows everything you see in movies is true  :aok
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: oakranger on May 29, 2010, 05:48:40 PM
lol yes b-25's just like on the movie pearl harbor. and can u change the pilots in the plane so they will look like ben afleck an matt damon....so it will be historicaly correct


Not matt damon, he was not in that movie.  You want Alic Baldwin and Josh Hartnett w/ Ben afleck.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: fbWldcat on May 29, 2010, 05:52:42 PM
(http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/kids_how_about_no.jpg)
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 30, 2010, 12:33:48 PM
Not one of you posted a kind or positive comment.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2010, 12:36:15 PM
Not one of you posted a kind or positive comment.

this is the same kid that runs around in the DA and calls everyone a m*****f****r, why should we be kind?
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 30, 2010, 12:38:19 PM
this is the same kid that runs around in the DA and calls everyone a m*****f****r, why should we be kind?
I'm in the DA all the time, never seen you or him before.

And even so, treat people with respect sir.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
they got to add the b29 plus i think its the pearl harbor movie their both friends in the movie and they borth launched off carriers with b25s with low fuel and they wreck when they bombed the factory :aok

(http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://craigswinejourney.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/facepalm23.jpg&ei=0aICTI2sBZWeMrb0_Ds&sa=X&oi=image_landing_page_redirect&ct=legacy&usg=AFQjCNHVKp36QT_Yn4rWnFWoRvYdMIFHIw)
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
I'm in the DA all the time, never seen you or him before.

And even so, treat people with respect sir.

this isnt my handle in the DA, and he hasnt been on in awhile. All he does is screech at people who get close to him in battle and then complain that everyone steals his kills.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 30, 2010, 12:48:32 PM
this isnt my handle in the DA, and he hasnt been on in awhile. All he does is screech at people who get close to him in battle and then complain that everyone steals his kills.

Oh him, lol are you serious ? I've taken many kills from him, he may say a few things, but i just pass them by.

No need to make a big deal out of it sir  :lol. <Salute>
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2010, 12:51:06 PM
Oh him, lol are you serious ? I've taken many kills from him, he may say a few things, but i just pass them by.

No need to make a big deal out of it sir  :lol. <Salute>

Fardown2? i dont think we are talking about the same person, if you get close to him when he is behind someone you will hear AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH and the glass within 20 miles of his house will shatter
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 30, 2010, 12:55:06 PM
Fardown2? i dont think we are talking about the same person, if you get close to him when he is behind someone you will hear AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHH and the glass within 20 miles of his house will shatter

I still have my windows, no shattering.

Ever try turning your volume off ?  :D  :rofl
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2010, 12:59:55 PM
I still have my windows, no shattering.

Ever try turning your volume off ?  :D  :rofl

our squad has teamspeak, he used to get on teamspeak and squeak too, but he called the squad leader a stupid s**t motherf****r. now i dont have to put up with him anymore. Furthermore if you make a post based on a movie, your proving your ignorance. Tell me how this sounds (essentially what he did)

I WANT THAT AIRPLANE FROM SKY CAPTAIN AND WORLD OF TOMMORROW BECAUSE IT CAN GO UNDERWATER AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY COOL AND STUFF CAUSE HE WAS LIKE THIS COOL DUDE AND STUFF
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 30, 2010, 01:03:57 PM
Oh dear...

Later...  :bolt:
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Jayhawk on May 30, 2010, 01:13:23 PM
Not one of you posted a kind or positive comment.

I posted some constructive criticism in reply #5, but as you can see in reply #6, it went right over his head.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: stephen on May 30, 2010, 01:45:48 PM
You want this game to stay available...., you are going to have to deal with kids.
The boards have allways been full of a cut-down mentality, alot of you think its up to you who posts here or what they post.

Give him a break, stop being a dogpile of jerks, and mabey this game will grow into one that HAS A B-29...
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: oakranger on May 30, 2010, 01:47:20 PM
Not one of you posted a kind or positive comment.

There is absolute nothing positive to post with the remarks he has to say. 
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on May 30, 2010, 03:32:52 PM
And even so, treat people with respect sir.
Buck, I used to think the same thing and it usually applies but after the last squeaker season...the old adage "for every rule there is an exception" has been proven time and again here. The worst ones are the American kids. They watch some movie or some History Channel episode and as soon as their sugar coma wears off they jump in the forums and start posting incomprehensible nonsense. A lot of legitimate realistic discussions get buried. That is not to mention the atrocious behavior in the arenas.

Just once I'd love to see one of these squeakers cuss on vox or on 200 while one of the HTC guys is online where they can hear it and see it.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on May 30, 2010, 03:59:17 PM
You should go meet a guy by the name of AKAK, he talks a big game but I bet you can beat him in a dogfight.

OK, can someone PLEASE answer this for me? Is AkAk (in game) Ack-Ack (forums)? I've never been able to drag an answer out of anyone.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on May 30, 2010, 04:02:10 PM
OK, can someone PLEASE answer this for me? Is AkAk (in game) Ack-Ack (forums)? I've never been able to drag an answer out of anyone.
Yes.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on May 30, 2010, 07:27:47 PM
OK, can someone PLEASE answer this for me? Is AkAk (in game) Ack-Ack (forums)? I've never been able to drag an answer out of anyone.

Not that I know, AKAK is just AKAK... in the old days one of the best P38 pilots that I remember.

And about the post.. OMG, go out to walk a lil looks like that you are watching too much movies on the XboX, but you got a +1 cuz u make me laugh the hell out.  :aok
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Tupac on May 30, 2010, 09:07:32 PM
(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz138/dcwdavid/n606268182_1384096_9068.jpg?t=1275271626)
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: AKP on May 31, 2010, 07:52:09 AM
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/got20squeakers20cropped23.jpg)
(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy329/Wildcat1995/NoB29.jpg)

now wake me up when summer is over :rolleyes:

Awwww..... you used my SoupNazi No B29 Pic!  I am... *sniff*... honored.   :salute
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Wildcat1 on May 31, 2010, 11:31:00 AM
Awwww..... you used my SoupNazi No B29 Pic!  I am... *sniff*... honored.   :salute

ah so you're the source! :salute

Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on May 31, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
Of course he's the source of that drivel. Where else would such nonsense come from but AKP?


Fact is that we WILL get the B-29, we WON'T get the nuke, and that it'll be perked to hell and gone. I won't be happy about seeing it (just a new lancstuka to kill my tiger), but that doesn't mean we won't. I wouldn't be supprised to see a perk price of 500 honestly.

And it would need that price concidering a flight of them could level all the hangers on a field. Seems the 91st will have a new toy to play with when HTC finally adds it. Hope I have enough perks built up so that I can fly and loose the 262 on a regular basis by that time.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 31, 2010, 04:50:52 PM
There is absolute nothing positive to post with the remarks he has to say. 

remarks ? the kid did a simple post, he put on a wish for a B-29 heavy bomber, what may i ask is so wrong with that.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Wildcat1 on May 31, 2010, 06:35:16 PM
remarks ? the kid did a simple post, he put on a wish for a B-29 heavy bomber, what may i ask is so wrong with that.

whats wrong is that he didnt try to search the topic before he started posting
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: 321BAR on May 31, 2010, 06:53:57 PM
I'm in the DA all the time, never seen you or him before.

And even so, treat people with respect sir.
youre correct buck. and thats why i havent posted here yet... but this same kid runs around the LWMA calling me a spy just cuz i turned him down for squad membership...
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on May 31, 2010, 08:39:07 PM
youre correct buck. and thats why i havent posted here yet... but this same kid runs around the LWMA calling me a spy just cuz i turned him down for squad membership...
Copy that, loud and clear. but please do try to understand, if some have their issue's with some players, especially kids, try not to go over board even if they make bad remarks or nasty comments (It does not mean you should do the same). The person which ever age he or she may be, deserves some respect even in the smallest ways.

Thats all i ask. <Salute>
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on May 31, 2010, 10:44:40 PM
Guys, what will happen when some kid uses the search function and brings a 4 month old thread back to life is that skuzzy will likely suspend him from the boards. And if skuzzy doesn't, you'll start yelling at him to make a new thread instead of bumping an old one.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on May 31, 2010, 11:05:46 PM
Guys, what will happen when some kid uses the search function and brings a 4 month old thread back to life is that skuzzy will likely suspend him from the boards. And if skuzzy doesn't, you'll start yelling at him to make a new thread instead of bumping an old one.
That's true for the most part. But there have been a couple who did use the search and either stated at the beginning of their post that they did a search and/or they posted the link to an old thread within their post. They didn't get flamed, yeah that's a rare case but it at least shows they read more than the title of this forum section and if 1 or 2 can do it, more can follow suit.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: AKP on June 01, 2010, 05:40:24 PM
Of course he's the source of that drivel. Where else would such nonsense come from but AKP?


Fact is that we WILL get the B-29, we WON'T get the nuke, and that it'll be perked to hell and gone. I won't be happy about seeing it (just a new lancstuka to kill my tiger), but that doesn't mean we won't. I wouldn't be supprised to see a perk price of 500 honestly.

And it would need that price concidering a flight of them could level all the hangers on a field. Seems the 91st will have a new toy to play with when HTC finally adds it. Hope I have enough perks built up so that I can fly and loose the 262 on a regular basis by that time.

Now Now Nemisis... no need to get nasty :)  I have completely resigned myself to the fact the people will never quit asking for the B-29, and that some day... we MAY actually get it.  And ya know what?  I will be among the first in line to fly it.  :huh  That is why I dont use my SoupNazi anymore.  But it's kinda cool that others do.  Kinda like how that cartoon pic with the "n00kie" in it gets used all the time. 

Anyway...  if the 29 gets added that is fine with me.  I used to go along with the "it will unbalance the game" arguement... but I am sure that one day, it will find its way into the game.  And... it wont be the killer every thinks it will be... unless it is flown and used properly.  No... we will never get the nuke.  That isnt what this game is all about.  The 29's played a far larger role than just dropping the ONLY 2 atomic bombs that have every been used during wartime.

So I will argue neither for, or against the B-29.  HTC knows it is wanted.  They will add it when they think it is the right time for it.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 01, 2010, 06:34:51 PM
Like I said in other threads: It will be the 3rd most hunted aircraft.

1: 262

2: Ar234

3 B-29


Everything that has 3 .50's or more in firepower will be taking potshots at D1000 hoping to land lucky hits.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on June 02, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
Like I said in other threads: It will be the 3rd most hunted aircraft.

1: 262

2: Ar234

3 B-29


Everything that has 3 .50's or more in firepower will be taking potshots at D1000 hoping to land lucky hits.


i didn't know that a 262 was the most hunted for in the game ? i couldn't care less going after a 262 lol. a b-29 is not a super bomber, like most think of it as, the only big difference is the bomb load out, to make it fit into gameplay just take off a few pounds.

plus the b-29 had 4-50-Cals on some gun positions, big deal, just cut it down to 2-50-cals to make people happy. htc is not totally historic accurate on this game, so ? whats the big problem if they just do some simple changes to the b-29 in order for it to fit in aces high.

And if its to big for the runways.....................s cale it down a bit  :rofl
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 02, 2010, 01:59:20 PM
htc is not totally historic accurate on this game,


Such as?

Aside from gv supplies and the like.




wrongway
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 02, 2010, 04:36:14 PM
Buck, YOU may care little about a 262, but it seems that whenever one comes within D1000, every single player in the vicinity opens up on it.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: lyric1 on June 02, 2010, 08:29:44 PM
lol yes b-25's just like on the movie pearl harbor. and can u change the pilots in the plane so they will look like ben afleck an matt damon....so it will be historicaly correct
Oh goody B25J's are on the way then. :aok
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on June 04, 2010, 01:49:33 PM

Such as?

Aside from gv supplies and the like.

1. well, vehicle spawns, you can spawn right next to an enemy base or at least close to it.

2. base radar is good, but base flashing ? it starts right as you get into the enemies radar circle.

3. fuel loud outs change in the DA and MA.

4. "a guess" Some planes in aces high don't act like the planes they should be, ( what are you saying ? ) for example a 190 in world war 2 could actually out fly a spitfire, a P-47 thunderbolt was a good dogfighter during world war 2, P-51's could out turn a 109, yet some have told me a 109 out turns a p-51 on aces high. in some ways I've wondered the possibility that htc had to make changes to these aircraft in order to balance gameplay in a dogfight ?

I just wonder is all, please understand, i am only replying at wrongways reply.
i am not in anyway bashing htc or their work that has been done, i am simple pointing out that in some area's this game is not totally historic accurate, and that it may not hurt to add some aircraft such as the b-29 to the game aces high II.

                                               <Salute>
   
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on June 04, 2010, 02:09:18 PM
1. well, vehicle spawns, you can spawn right next to an enemy base or at least close to it.

2. base radar is good, but base flashing ? it starts right as you get into the enemies radar circle.

3. fuel loud outs change in the DA and MA.

4. "a guess" Some planes in aces high don't act like the planes they should be, ( what are you saying ? ) for example a 190 in world war 2 could actually out fly a spitfire, a P-47 thunderbolt was a good dogfighter during world war 2, P-51's could out turn a 109, yet some have told me a 109 out turns a p-51 on aces high. in some ways I've wondered the possibility that htc had to make changes to these aircraft in order to balance gameplay in a dogfight ?

I just wonder is all, please understand, i am only replying at wrongways reply.
i am not in anyway bashing htc or their work that has been done, i am simple pointing out that in some area's this game is not totally historic accurate, and that it may not hurt to add some aircraft such as the b-29 to the game aces high II.

                                               <Salute>
Actually Buck, what you refer to there depends on the model and the situation. The 109E1 could not out fly any Spits after the 5. The 190A4 could not out fly any Spits after the 9. P-51Ds could turn tighter than 109G-6 in a sustained turn fight, but not the 109F-4. But the P-51 was faster than the 109F-4 and its predecessors. The P-47 was a good dog fighter, but not a good turn fighter. No plane could dog fight worth a bean if it was flying heavy with ords or drop tank.

The only way your statement holds true where the aircraft are concerned is in non flight related areas, like the way flaps are deployed and how many degrees of flap were available in real life for specific aircraft vs what is modeled in AH. Random component or weapons failures are not modeled. There are a lot of things not modeled in AH for game play purposes but as far as the flight models are concerned, they are as close as can be had with the available historic documentation that is relied on to reproduce realistic flight characteristics.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: LLogann on June 04, 2010, 02:41:22 PM
I want everybody in this thread to stop and count to ten please..............




 :uhoh
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: SEseph on June 04, 2010, 02:49:44 PM
If this topic were a horse, it would have been beaten, killed, beaten, beaten again, and again, an once again for good measure, sent to a glue and dog food factory, tenderized for 6 years, brought out only to be beaten once more for even better measure, turned into glue/ dog food, dropped repeatedly before being accidently shipped to a farmer whose dogs have an affection for glue covered dog food, to then go into the pasture to take a steaming one, trampled for several weeks before becoming grass to be eaten by the next horse in the process.  :aok

I appologize for any gramatical or spelling errors.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: whipster22 on June 04, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
If this topic were a horse, it would have been beaten, killed, beaten, beaten again, and again, an once again for good measure, sent to a glue and dog food factory, tenderized for 6 years, brought out only to be beaten once more for even better measure, turned into glue/ dog food, dropped repeatedly before being accidently shipped to a farmer whose dogs have an affection for glue covered dog food, to then go into the pasture to take a steaming one, trampled for several weeks before becoming grass to be eaten by the next horse in the process.  :aok

I appologize for any gramatical or spelling errors.


spot on  :)


not editing just say that he's right
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on June 04, 2010, 02:55:50 PM
I want everybody in this thread to stop and count to ten please..............
1...2...3...wait, did you pull the pin on this thing or???
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: LLogann on June 04, 2010, 03:09:49 PM
It's set to 6 seconds, shhhhhhh............    :lol

1...2...3...wait, did you pull the pin on this thing or???
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on June 04, 2010, 04:36:42 PM
Actually Buck, what you refer to there depends on the model and the situation. The 109E1 could not out fly any Spits after the 5. The 190A4 could not out fly any Spits after the 9. P-51Ds could turn tighter than 109G-6 in a sustained turn fight, but not the 109F-4. But the P-51 was faster than the 109F-4 and its predecessors. The P-47 was a good dog fighter, but not a good turn fighter. No plane could dog fight worth a bean if it was flying heavy with ords or drop tank.

The only way your statement holds true where the aircraft are concerned is in non flight related areas, like the way flaps are deployed and how many degrees of flap were available in real life for specific aircraft vs what is modeled in AH. Random component or weapons failures are not modeled. There are a lot of things not modeled in AH for game play purposes but as far as the flight models are concerned, they are as close as can be had with the available historic documentation that is relied on to reproduce realistic flight characteristics.


You know your history sir, and do very well at explaining it in excellent detail. i however am not fully correct on every detail as you may be. You stated that the 47 was a good dogfighter, but not a good turner, I'm a fan of (Dogfights) history channel, their was a pilot that took on a 109 in a p47 thunderbolt, he out flew a 109 in a flat turn low to the ground, afterwords the 109 left the dogfight as did the p-47 pilot, only due to no ammunition.

The pilot who flew the p47 was in the 366th fighter group. you also said that a p-47 flying heavy with ords and a droptank could not dogfight worth a bean ? 47's took off their fuel-tanks and ords in any kind of dogfight, leaving them ready for any action that would take place.

You can correct me if any of this is wrong.
                                                                         <Salute>
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: LLogann on June 04, 2010, 04:51:11 PM
109 doesn't turn all that well..... BUT.... I will say this much....  I have never flown a Thunderbolt IRL, but here in our world, the 47 turns with all but the Hurri and the Zero.  My USAF squaddie in fact swears it's the best turner in the game aside from that recycled American metal Jap turd.


You know your history sir, and do very well at explaining it in excellent detail. i however am not fully correct on every detail as you may be. You stated that the 47 was a good dogfighter, but not a good turner, I'm a fan of (Dogfights) history channel, their was a pilot that took on a 109 in a p47 thunderbolt, he out flew a 109 in a flat turn low to the ground, afterwords the 109 left the dogfight as did the p-47 pilot, only due to no ammunition.

You can correct me if any of this is wrong.
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So I sort of can't say you're wrong. 

And I can tell you totally counted to ten before posting.....  Thank You! 
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 04, 2010, 07:10:08 PM

You know your history sir, and do very well at explaining it in excellent detail. i however am not fully correct on every detail as you may be. You stated that the 47 was a good dogfighter, but not a good turner, I'm a fan of (Dogfights) history channel, their was a pilot that took on a 109 in a p47 thunderbolt, he out flew a 109 in a flat turn low to the ground, afterwords the 109 left the dogfight as did the p-47 pilot, only due to no ammunition.

The pilot who flew the p47 was in the 366th fighter group. you also said that a p-47 flying heavy with ords and a droptank could not dogfight worth a bean ? 47's took off their fuel-tanks and ords in any kind of dogfight, leaving them ready for any action that would take place.


Depends on speed, altitude, and a multitude of other factors. At 300 mph, the 47 will out turn a zero. At 250, a P-47 will out turn a zero. Fights take longer at higher altitude because often acceleration and climb rate have dropped to a minimum. A P-47 has a great advantage over most planes at 30k. And if it gets in trouble, it can just simply nose over and drop like a rock.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on June 04, 2010, 07:26:45 PM
Roger that LLogann and Nemissis.  :salute



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Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on June 04, 2010, 09:39:02 PM
You know your history sir, and do very well at explaining it in excellent detail. i however am not fully correct on every detail as you may be. You stated that the 47 was a good dogfighter, but not a good turner, I'm a fan of (Dogfights) history channel, their was a pilot that took on a 109 in a p47 thunderbolt, he out flew a 109 in a flat turn low to the ground, afterwords the 109 left the dogfight as did the p-47 pilot, only due to no ammunition.

The pilot who flew the p47 was in the 366th fighter group. you also said that a p-47 flying heavy with ords and a droptank could not dogfight worth a bean ? 47's took off their fuel-tanks and ords in any kind of dogfight, leaving them ready for any action that would take place.

You can correct me if any of this is wrong.
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I used to watch those history channel dogfights episodes myself. One thing of note was that they never knew what versions of aircraft anyone flew, a 109 was a 109 and a 190 was a 190. Strangely enough they never get it all correct, in those P-47 episodes, it seemed like all of the pilots flew "paddle prop" P-47s. In AH the P-47D-25 and D-40 can turn with a 109G-14 or K-4, but not a 109F-4.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on June 05, 2010, 10:16:18 AM
I used to watch those history channel dogfights episodes myself. One thing of note was that they never knew what versions of aircraft anyone flew, a 109 was a 109 and a 190 was a 190. Strangely enough they never get it all correct, in those P-47 episodes, it seemed like all of the pilots flew "paddle prop" P-47s. In AH the P-47D-25 and D-40 can turn with a 109G-14 or K-4, but not a 109F-4.

you said 25 and 40 can turn with a 109, but you didn't say out turn it, this pilot who flew in 1945 out flew in a flat turn with a 109 at low alt... probably a 109-g14, i fly the 47 quite a bit, and I've never out done 109s low and slow, with light fuel no ords even in a D11 <<< in any arena. i can trick someone with a 47, maybe if I'm lucky out run a few 109s, but never out done a 109 in a flat turn at low alt.

still think something is not right with some aircraft, i just don't.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 06, 2010, 12:54:38 PM
I believe the 109 had gun gondolas carried in that one (unless I'm thinking of a different fight), and it looked like the P-47 was a D40. The D40 can turn with a 109, but not out turn it. Add the gondolas into the equation (or flaps for the P-47, can give it a big boost over a short time) and the P-47 might be able to out turn the 109.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 06, 2010, 01:10:56 PM
1. well, vehicle spawns, you can spawn right next to an enemy base or at least close to it.

It's a game.  How far would you prefer to drive?  Would driving further be fun?

2. base radar is good, but base flashing ? it starts right as you get into the enemies radar circle.

I assume you are speaking of NOE.  Otherwise, why wouldn't the base flash as you show up on radar?  Anyway, NOE base flashing is supposed to represent someone on the ground seeing and reporting enemy units in the vicinity.

3. fuel loud outs change in the DA and MA.

Burn Multiplyer?  A gameplay concession due to the fact that enemy bases usually aren't merely 30 miles away.  If you are refering to a plane taking off with less than a full fuel load, then I'm with you.

4. "a guess" Some planes in aces high don't act like the planes they should be, ( what are you saying ? ) for example a 190 in world war 2 could actually out fly a spitfire, a P-47 thunderbolt was a good dogfighter during world war 2, P-51's could out turn a 109, yet some have told me a 109 out turns a p-51 on aces high. in some ways I've wondered the possibility that htc had to make changes to these aircraft in order to balance gameplay in a dogfight ?

You "guess"?  Based on Dogfights or your own personal research and actual flight experience?

I just wonder is all, please understand, i am only replying at wrongways reply.
i am not in anyway bashing htc or their work that has been done, i am simple pointing out that in some area's this game is not totally historic accurate, and that it may not hurt to add some aircraft such as the b-29 to the game aces high II.

It's not history.  It's a game.  Spitfires didn't fight Spitfires.  ME109s didn't fight FW190s.

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Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 06, 2010, 01:37:32 PM
Lets not forget the abundance of tigers. More are killed each month than were produced in WWII. We also have an over abundance of M4A3(76)W's, Spit XVI's, P-47M's and others. All relative to the numbers we see in the game.

Also, P-51's rarely, if ever, carried 1000lb bombs AND rockets. Much is fubar in AH if we are going on history. If you want realism as far as numbers, go play WWIIOL (type in in google).
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 06, 2010, 03:03:07 PM
Lets not forget the abundance of tigers. More are killed each month than were produced in WWII. We also have an over abundance of M4A3(76)W's, Spit XVI's, P-47M's and others. All relative to the numbers we see in the game.

Also, P-51's rarely, if ever, carried 1000lb bombs AND rockets. Much is fubar in AH if we are going on history. If you want realism as far as numbers, go play WWIIOL (type in in google).

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Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Spikes on June 06, 2010, 03:06:19 PM

i didn't know that a 262 was the most hunted for in the game ? i couldn't care less going after a 262 lol.
Fly one, go in at 5K into a mess of enemy, around ~350-400 and see how many guys you have on your six when you emerge. Also how many fire at you from 800-1K .
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: grumpy37 on June 06, 2010, 03:07:13 PM
Not one of you posted a kind or positive comment.

+1  And HTC thinks over crowded arenas are what keeps new guys from becoming paying subscribers...
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Buck on June 06, 2010, 03:46:06 PM


wrongway



I pay 14 bucks a month as well, so please, since you're are so wise, keep that in mind.
                            
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Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Plazus on June 06, 2010, 06:58:41 PM
+1  And HTC thinks over crowded arenas are what keeps new guys from becoming paying subscribers...

Really? And just how do arenas become over-crowded when new players dont subscribe?
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 06, 2010, 08:38:03 PM


I pay 14 bucks a month as well, so please, since you're are so wise, keep that in mind.
                            
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Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: fbWldcat on June 06, 2010, 09:15:46 PM


I pay 14 bucks a month as well, so please, since you're are so wise, keep that in mind.
                             
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 :headscratch: Is this some new noob logic I have yet to encounter? Zounds!  :noid
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 06, 2010, 09:36:51 PM
Really? And just how do arenas become over-crowded when new players dont subscribe?

Simple: all the GV'ers pile into the map that breeds the better fights, bomb****s follow for easy kills, and then the fighter boys jump on the wagon to hunt the low flying aircraft.

It can also start with the bombers: fighters come to hunt them, and GV's come to opperate under the percieved saftey of aircover. WHY would any GVer want to go to the arena full of bomb****s and lacking in fighters? And why would the fighter pilots all pile in with the GV's, when bombing provides no chalange for them?

Everyone goes to the fights, or where they can opperate in an area that can give something approaching an even fight.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Plazus on June 06, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
Everyone goes to the fights, or where they can opperate in an area that can give something approaching an even fight.

Your post fails to answer my question. I was asking, "How is it that the arenas are over crowding when newer people are chosing not to subscribe?" If a population chooses not to subscribe, then the arena count would be dropping, or staying the same as it is right now.

You are trying to tell me that people go where fights are. What does that have to do with people not subscribing? You are not making any sense. If people are looking for fights, and they find them, then the logical reasoning is that they are likely to subscribe, as that is the type of gameplay they have been looking for in a combat flight sim.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Nemisis on June 06, 2010, 09:53:25 PM
It has little to do with subscribing, but you asked how the arenas are getting crowded. Its only one arena, with the overflow going to the other arena. Usually the overflow from LWO heading for LWB.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: ebfd11 on June 07, 2010, 01:11:30 AM
Ok we have gone off topic.. Wasn't the original post asking for the b29 and abilility to take off from a carrier??
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: 321BAR on June 07, 2010, 10:06:52 AM
Ok we have gone off topic.. Wasn't the original post asking for the b29 and abilility to take off from a carrier??
bah...thats about as good as a topic about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: gyrene81 on June 07, 2010, 10:11:37 AM
bah...thats about as good as a topic about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
I think 321BAR is stuck in youtube...LOL...almost every post for the last 2 days has had a link to a vid.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: 321BAR on June 07, 2010, 10:21:07 AM
I think 321BAR is stuck in youtube...LOL...almost every post for the last 2 days has had a link to a vid.
if the threads arent worth it :rofl i post those
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Hap on June 07, 2010, 10:29:47 AM
I'd like both; 25's off cv and 29's from airfields.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: SEseph on June 07, 2010, 03:51:53 PM
I want a V1 or a V2 if you get yer B25 carrier version!
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: oakranger on June 07, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
I want a V1 or a V2 if you get yer B25 carrier version!

I would rather see the V1 and V2 over the B-25 carrier version.  Still not sure why asked for it when it was only used once. 
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Bronk on June 08, 2010, 05:02:48 AM
I would rather see the V1 and V2 over the B-25 carrier version.  Still not sure why asked for it when it was only used once. 
Yea flying an ac as apposed to launch and forget is some peoples idea of fun.  :rolleyes:
Why not just fly off line missions then you will  never have to interact with other players.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: Jayhawk on June 08, 2010, 11:38:21 AM
So Fardown2 sent me a message here on the BBS asking to be in our squad.  I very politely informed him that we ask our members to be 18 and up for a variety of reasons.  He replied today:

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r u treating me like a 6 year old wel lim 17 i heartd more worst stuff thne u will every think of devil

Thought I would share  :lol
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: oakranger on June 08, 2010, 07:31:37 PM
So Fardown2 sent me a message here on the BBS asking to be in our squad.  I very politely informed him that we ask our members to be 18 and up for a variety of reasons.  He replied today:

Thought I would share  :lol

WOW,  sure fool me on that.  take him.
Title: Re: b29 and b25 taking off carriers
Post by: 321BAR on June 08, 2010, 07:44:15 PM
So Fardown2 sent me a message here on the BBS asking to be in our squad.  I very politely informed him that we ask our members to be 18 and up for a variety of reasons.  He replied today:

Thought I would share  :lol
he wanted to be in my squad and when i said no because of his age and immaturity he called me a spy on bishland country :aok Hes just a kid though. no worries