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Title: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: Ardy123 on June 04, 2010, 03:48:37 AM
I have created this thread so that we could post recent films for HTC to help them narrow down or explain the issue.
I have been experiencing a bad case of dud tators as well. Here are some dud tator vid from fights I had last night. I have posted similar bugs in the bugs section before, but no official explanation resulted

BTW none of these fights were with a mossy.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/my2j45mdt3e/dud-tator-clip.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/my2j45mdt3e/dud-tator-clip.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynmwznymayi/dud-tator-clip2.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynmwznymayi/dud-tator-clip2.ahf)

Previous bug report filed in the bugs section
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281521.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281521.0.html)

It would be very much appreciated if HTC could look into this issue.
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: Chalenge on June 04, 2010, 04:07:40 AM
"Mediafire has been blocked due to unsafe content."  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 04, 2010, 05:44:09 AM
I have created this thread so that we could post recent films for HTC to help them narrow down or explain the issue.
 
I have posted similar bugs in the bugs section before, but no official explanation resulted


Previous bug report filed in the bugs section
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281521.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,281521.0.html)

It would be very much appreciated if HTC could look into this issue.


just because you did not see a reply from an HTC employee does not mean they are not looking into it!

oh, and wrong forum........

supposed to post these where you said you already posted them....... why all these AH players keep insisting on not understanding where to post post, or posting twice in 2 seperate forums about the same thing, is unreal....... makes for big post count though........ guess people get a lil something out of it......
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: RTHolmes on June 04, 2010, 07:11:08 AM
I reckon everything in the game suffers from rubber bullets at one point or another, its just more noticeable with eg. 30mms or tank rounds because you fire less of them and notice the effects of the individual rounds. Ive fired 400 rounds at convergence from the jugs 8x.50s before for just a fuel leak, clearly not all of the rounds were causing damage but the effect is less noticeable than firing a single rubber tater. Ive experienced this with almost everything ive fired ingame at some time.
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on June 04, 2010, 07:53:02 AM
Think so?


Try it with the p-39's 37mm, it never fails.
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: 321BAR on June 04, 2010, 08:05:36 AM
i feel that the 30mm taters can go either way... either they ARE bugged, or its just that people over estimate their power. Think that where one 30mm would hit a plane, 3 20mms would be striking the same target making more of an impact? the 30mm has a somewhat slow fire rate, yeah maybe 4 30mms increase your chance of hits but what if you only hit the target with one? i've never had a problem killing the enemy when i KNOW i've hit with more than one tater nut
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: RTHolmes on June 04, 2010, 08:07:02 AM
never fly the P39, but if I did for a whole tour I guarantee there would be some 37mm hits which did hardly any/no damage, just like I experienced last tour with .50s, 20mm hispanos, 76mm AP rounds etc. etc...
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: -sudz- on June 04, 2010, 10:38:59 AM

http://www.mediafire.com/file/my2j45mdt3e/dud-tator-clip.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/my2j45mdt3e/dud-tator-clip.ahf)
http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynmwznymayi/dud-tator-clip2.ahf (http://www.mediafire.com/file/ynmwznymayi/dud-tator-clip2.ahf)


Both these films showed a previously unknown problem with the target planes, not the ammo.  It's been a long standing bug (we'll look at all other planes too) that will be addressed in the next patch.

Thanks,
- Sudz

<edit> PS  The mossie had a separate, unrelated damage problem that has also been addressed.

Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: DrBone1 on June 04, 2010, 10:55:58 AM
Both these films showed a previously unknown problem with the target planes, not the ammo.  It's been a long standing bug (we'll look at all other planes too) that will be addressed in the next patch.

Thanks,
- Sudz

<edit> PS  The mossie had a separate, unrelated damage problem that has also been addressed.


:aok HTC is the best  :D
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: grizz441 on June 04, 2010, 10:57:27 AM
This is awesome news.  Thanks Hitech, sudz, and HTC for looking at this and having a fix in the works.  :aok
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: TequilaChaser on June 04, 2010, 10:57:50 AM
You did a good job Ardy by posting the films,

~S~
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: FireDrgn on June 04, 2010, 11:04:10 AM
Might want to check the seafire.  It took a 37mm from the yakT. No damage.. I can email film if needed.


<S>
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: Ardy123 on June 04, 2010, 01:05:36 PM
Both these films showed a previously unknown problem with the target planes, not the ammo.  It's been a long standing bug (we'll look at all other planes too) that will be addressed in the next patch.

Thanks,
- Sudz

<edit> PS  The mossie had a separate, unrelated damage problem that has also been addressed.



Thank you Suds & HTC for looking into the issue!  :aok
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: gyrene81 on June 04, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
Might want to check the seafire.  It took a 37mm from the yakT. No damage.. I can email film if needed.


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Er...not sure how HTC has it modeled but the 37mm in the Yak were AP rounds for anti-armor, pass right through an aircraft like a hot knife in butter. Unless it hit some solid part of the the framework and detonated all it would do is leave a large smoking hole.

And you probably missed this little snippet.

Both these films showed a previously unknown problem with the target planes, not the ammo.  It's been a long standing bug (we'll look at all other planes too) that will be addressed in the next patch.

Thanks,
- Sudz
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: thndregg on June 04, 2010, 02:00:09 PM
Might want to check the seafire.  It took a 37mm from the yakT. No damage.. I can email film if needed.


<S>

Now that is saying something. A Yak 9T's spud gun is usually destructive.
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: killnu on June 04, 2010, 02:25:47 PM
very nice to hear.
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: BillyD on June 04, 2010, 03:51:58 PM
woot
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: TwinBoom on June 04, 2010, 04:14:34 PM
i hit a 190 a5 3 times i saw 30mm sprite from the 109k4 i was flying he took no damage
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: Ardy123 on June 04, 2010, 05:41:36 PM
i hit a 190 a5 3 times i saw 30mm sprite from the 109k4 i was flying he took no damage

got film?
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: morfiend on June 04, 2010, 11:15:55 PM
Er...not sure how HTC has it modeled but the 37mm in the Yak were AP rounds for anti-armor, pass right through an aircraft like a hot knife in butter. Unless it hit some solid part of the the framework and detonated all it would do is leave a large smoking hole.

And you probably missed this little snippet.



  The yak fires an He round as Ap was rarely if ever used in the Yaks 37 mm gun.


    :salute
 
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: gyrene81 on June 05, 2010, 01:39:02 AM
The yak fires an He round as Ap was rarely if ever used in the Yaks 37 mm gun.

    :salute
Ah ok, I knew they were given HE for the P-39s didn't know for sure if the Yaks had the same ammo.  :salute
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: texastc316 on June 05, 2010, 07:12:00 PM
very nice to hear.

I want to touch your avatars naughty pillows.
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: morfiend on June 06, 2010, 07:14:09 PM
Ah ok, I knew they were given HE for the P-39s didn't know for sure if the Yaks had the same ammo.  :salute


 Actually the Yak and P39 guns only share the same caliber,two different guns and completely different ammo.

 The Yak has the same gun as the IL2,37mm that is,and both HE and AP were available and used.The only thing is the Yaks almost never used the AP rounds,not saying never,just that the Yak's were used for a different purpose and HE was used most commonly.

   :salute
Title: Re: Dud Tator Films For HTC
Post by: JunkyII on June 06, 2010, 08:20:48 PM
The luftwhiners have been heard


 :salute HTC