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Title: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on June 05, 2010, 08:58:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx_PX-r-MYQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx_PX-r-MYQ)


A new tool for the bag:  http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&productid=33
 (http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&productid=33)
http://shar.es/mwXh7 (http://shar.es/mwXh7)

Going to be using this for after action reports on landings and students maneuvers. This particular video was shot in 1080i, with 127* wide angle. I could've down sampled and gone 170* at 960p, but 1080i shows the control surfaces just as well. Can record a full morning lesson, switch a battery at lunch, and finish the afternoon on the same SD card.
HD HERO Wide Angle DVR and 5MP Still camera.

    * Lens Type: Fixed Focus (2ft/.6m – ∞), glass
    * Aperture: f/2.8 (high performance in low-light situations)
    * Angle of View: 170º ultra wide angle in WVGA, 720p, or 960p mode
    * Angle of View: 127º wide angle in 1080p mode
    * Depth Rating: Up to 180 feet / 60 meters
    * Construction: Polycarbonate and stainless steel
    * Average recording times (using 32GB SD card):
    * 1080p (30 fps): 4h 21m
    * 960p (30 fps): 5h 26m
    * 720p (60 fps): 4h 21
    * 720p (30 fps): 8h 09m
    * WVGA (60 fps): 8h 09m
    * Battery Life: Approx. 2.5 hrs
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: ramzey on June 06, 2010, 03:07:30 AM
That's very interesting gadget and affordable.
I think 720 will be enough in terms of quality for training purposes and make transfer to PC faster.
I wondering how you  mount it on the plane.
Alex did u use spot metering for that?
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on June 06, 2010, 06:54:05 AM
That's very interesting gadget and affordable.
I think 720 will be enough in terms of quality for training purposes and make transfer to PC faster.
I wondering how you  mount it on the plane.
Alex did u use spot metering for that?

Light meter? No. It was set to Spot Metering by default.

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs653.snc3/32250_432896786213_656951213_5649369_2848882_n.jpg)

Transfer time isn't an issue. I'm using a class 6 SD at the moment so 20-30MB per second is plenty quick to write. Not sure what copy is. The mount, there was a stock clip with 3M VHB tape on it. I cleaned a section of the tail and attached that clip. Snapped the camera into place, then came the Gorilla tape. I need to buy stock in that company - great product Gorilla tape. But yea, for roughly $200 - its a pretty slick package.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Russian on June 06, 2010, 08:59:10 AM
Neat angle.  Would be cool to place this on a low-level flight...but there is no way-in hell I can get approval for that.  Plus that thing probably will not withstand 300+ knots.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on June 06, 2010, 09:20:13 PM
Neat angle.  Would be cool to place this on a low-level flight...but there is no way-in hell I can get approval for that.  Plus that thing probably will not withstand 300+ knots.

Become buddies with your crew chief. He will 'find' a way my friend.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Russian on June 07, 2010, 10:20:26 PM
Become buddies with your crew chief. He will 'find' a way my friend.

Too much red tape here for anything like this. Best I can do is to take video with camera within cockpit.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mx6xwhCCh0

Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Denholm on June 07, 2010, 11:02:38 PM
Wish I could find some video cameras recording such quality video with manual hand-controllable focus, exposure, and zoom features. Certainly is a great product you found!
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on June 08, 2010, 02:48:30 AM
I'd want to stick one of these into a integrated housing in the wing or fuselage for best protection. Like the landing lights. On warbirds there should be plenty of room in the gun camera housing.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 68Wooley on June 08, 2010, 07:07:58 PM
Warm day wolfala?
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: CAP1 on June 18, 2010, 12:26:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx_PX-r-MYQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx_PX-r-MYQ)


A new tool for the bag:  http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&productid=33
 (http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&productid=33)
http://shar.es/mwXh7 (http://shar.es/mwXh7)

Going to be using this for after action reports on landings and students maneuvers. This particular video was shot in 1080i, with 127* wide angle. I could've down sampled and gone 170* at 960p, but 1080i shows the control surfaces just as well. Can record a full morning lesson, switch a battery at lunch, and finish the afternoon on the same SD card.
HD HERO Wide Angle DVR and 5MP Still camera.

    * Lens Type: Fixed Focus (2ft/.6m – ∞), glass
    * Aperture: f/2.8 (high performance in low-light situations)
    * Angle of View: 170º ultra wide angle in WVGA, 720p, or 960p mode
    * Angle of View: 127º wide angle in 1080p mode
    * Depth Rating: Up to 180 feet / 60 meters
    * Construction: Polycarbonate and stainless steel
    * Average recording times (using 32GB SD card):
    * 1080p (30 fps): 4h 21m
    * 960p (30 fps): 5h 26m
    * 720p (60 fps): 4h 21
    * 720p (30 fps): 8h 09m
    * WVGA (60 fps): 8h 09m
    * Battery Life: Approx. 2.5 hrs



that's pretty cool. there's one called vholdr too......takes up less room, but i think a little more expensive.


another thing........look in the recent issues of flight training. there's a software program that's a free download. it works with your garmin gps, and google maps.......and it shows your entire flight on the computer in 3d.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on June 18, 2010, 12:43:23 PM
Wolflala thanks for posting this.  :aok I have ordered one to use when flying, skiing etc. Pretty excited about it, will be a great tool to document great moments.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on June 18, 2010, 01:07:02 PM
Wolflala thanks for posting this.  :aok I have ordered one to use when flying, skiing etc. Pretty excited about it, will be a great tool to document great moments.

updated URL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpuvBTCp7p8&feature=youtube_gdata (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpuvBTCp7p8&feature=youtube_gdata)
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on June 18, 2010, 02:03:15 PM
Nice runway, looks brand new! Close call with the deer, had a similar event last month with a rabbit, poor thing ran in front of the plane when I flared.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on July 07, 2010, 05:45:01 PM
Check this approach and landing!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqXhReVL958


Just a little RC fun. Might post a video later from the cockpit of a PA28. It won't be anything exciting though, I mean... it's a PA28.  :huh
Our club had a contract for a DA20 and it was pre-paid for. The deal didn't go through though because they failed to EASA certify it as was required by contract so it was called off and we got the money back. Too bad it was a nice setup with G500 cockpit.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on July 07, 2010, 05:52:39 PM
Check this approach and landing!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqXhReVL958


Just a little RC fun. Might post a video later from the cockpit of a PA28. It won't be anything exciting though, I mean... it's a PA28.  :huh
Our club had a contract for a DA20 and it was pre-paid for. The deal didn't go through though because they failed to EASA certify it as was required by contract so it was called off and we got the money back. Too bad it was a nice setup with G500 cockpit.

Awesome! I kitbashed my Parkzone P51 and stuck it inside the canopy. I'll find the video and throw it up. Not as smooth as yours because of the prop noise
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: RTHolmes on July 07, 2010, 06:08:12 PM
those gopro HDs are great, I know someone using them for trackdays. spot metering? matrix would be better if its got it.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on July 07, 2010, 06:38:07 PM
It has two options, centered spot metering or 'weighted average meter'. I used the latter option in this capture. Have not tested the centered spot metering option yet.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: RTHolmes on July 07, 2010, 07:01:40 PM
weighted average sounds better for this :aok
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on July 09, 2010, 06:29:03 AM
Lost this plane last night. You can see a couple flights with it prior to the crash on my yt channel. There were a couple glitches during the two flights preceeding the crash which should have told me to land and check all the gear thorougly, I didn't and so lost the plane. The transmitter antenna wasn't secured and the glitches were temporary loss of contact between transmitter module and antenna, later the antenna fell completely off resulting in loss of control and a spiral dive into the ground. It's still somewhere out on the field I have not found it yet.

What followed was almost worth the crash. A group of lightly intoxicated austrians and germans helped me retrieve the wreck from a tree, using a crane truck.  :O I'll upload that film later.

This incident reaffirms to me the importance of good procedures no matter what type of flying is involved. Don't trust anyone with your gear, always check it yourself and stay focused on what's important... coming back down safely. I'll be looking over my procedures before upping again.

Fly safe out there.

 :salute
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: CAP1 on July 13, 2010, 08:45:11 AM
Lost this plane last night. You can see a couple flights with it prior to the crash on my yt channel. There were a couple glitches during the two flights preceeding the crash which should have told me to land and check all the gear thorougly, I didn't and so lost the plane. The transmitter antenna wasn't secured and the glitches were temporary loss of contact between transmitter module and antenna, later the antenna fell completely off resulting in loss of control and a spiral dive into the ground. It's still somewhere out on the field I have not found it yet.

What followed was almost worth the crash. A group of lightly intoxicated austrians and germans helped me retrieve the wreck from a tree, using a crane truck.  :O I'll upload that film later.

This incident reaffirms to me the importance of good procedures no matter what type of flying is involved. Don't trust anyone with your gear, always check it yourself and stay focused on what's important... coming back down safely. I'll be looking over my procedures before upping again.

Fly safe out there.

 :salute

i assume you're talking r/c?

 i always do a pretty thorough preflight on my airplanes. normally only the first flight of the day. after that, it's a quick control check as i taxi out, and a run up just before i pull her onto the runway.
 there's a couple guys on the field that bust my stones because i won't just start the engine, and fly.......but then they've all lost aircraft from glitches, radio hits, etc.........i've only lost planes from my own mistakes..... :noid :devil
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: 33Vortex on July 13, 2010, 09:23:10 AM
Yeah RC planes that is... and I haven't been flying RC for at least 15 years so lack the routines I used to have. So I screwed up with the preflight checks, won't make that mistake again!  :D
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on July 13, 2010, 09:56:24 AM
Yeah RC planes that is... and I haven't been flying RC for at least 15 years so lack the routines I used to have. So I screwed up with the preflight checks, won't make that mistake again!  :D

Don't feel bad. I let my brothers brother in law fly my Mustang. He is a KC135 driver - little did I know that didn't translate over too well. He balled it up inside of 30 seconds. Replacement comes today.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: CAP1 on July 13, 2010, 09:59:46 AM
Don't feel bad. I let my brothers brother in law fly my Mustang. He is a KC135 driver - little did I know that didn't translate over too well. He balled it up inside of 30 seconds. Replacement comes today.

wanna hear somethign scary?

there used to be a guy in our club that was an airline pilot. he could fly fine. landings cost him quite a few airplanes.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Wolfala on July 13, 2010, 10:33:03 AM
wanna hear somethign scary?

there used to be a guy in our club that was an airline pilot. he could fly fine. landings cost him quite a few airplanes.

I had a 4 hour session over the weekend perfecting a guys landings in a 22. Will post a couple screen caps from the HD Hero when I get home. One of the landings I think we could've counted lizards.
Title: Re: A new tool in the flight instruction bag
Post by: Tupac on July 13, 2010, 10:39:24 AM
i assume you're talking r/c?

 i always do a pretty thorough preflight on my airplanes. normally only the first flight of the day. after that, it's a quick control check as i taxi out, and a run up just before i pull her onto the runway.
 there's a couple guys on the field that bust my stones because i won't just start the engine, and fly.......but then they've all lost aircraft from glitches, radio hits, etc.........i've only lost planes from my own mistakes..... :noid :devil

I try and do pretty thorough inspections of my RC planes aswell, i only fly once or twice a month, so i try to inspect as much as possible. I lost a skyraider a month ago when i just started the engine and took off, I didnt realize that  the battery had gone bad and didnt take a charge, I got about 50 feet up and my receiver died, and my plane followed suit.