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Title: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Koendog on June 07, 2010, 12:41:35 AM
Not sure where to post this, so thought I'd start here.

Since the last update, the first time I log into Aces High for the night my joystick mapping is gone. When I look "up", it gets stuck there until I hit the "8" key and then the view goes back to "forward." Also, if I fire my guns, the guns keeping firing until empty, even if I let go of the fire button.  :furious

To fix it, I have to log completely out of Aces High (to the desktop), log back in, and everything works just fine. Joystick is mapped, everything works normally. I thought it was just me, but the EXACT same thing happened to a squaddie tonight too so it can't just be my rig. Any help is appreciated.

Is anyone else having this problem?
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Skuzzy on June 07, 2010, 06:42:58 AM
You running any anti-virus or any type of file security software? 
What operating system? 
Is the joystick calibrated in Windows? 
Are you using any stick manager software? 
Is the game installed in the "Program Files" folder?
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Koendog on June 07, 2010, 06:58:04 AM
Just running McAfee Anti-virus, been doing that the whole time.

Windows XP SP3

Saitek X52, is calibrated in Windows.

No stick software being used.

Pretty sure the game is in the "Program Files" folder. I'll have to check, at work now.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: zack1234 on June 07, 2010, 07:01:34 AM
Happened to me and couple of squadies last month :old:
Not happened since, remapped and relogged :old:
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Skuzzy on June 07, 2010, 07:13:45 AM
Running any anti-virus, especially Norton or McAfee will eventually cause problems.  All it takes is for a data pattern to match what it thinks is a virus and your game will get corrupted.

McAfee/Norton are the worst anti-virus programs on the market.  They both will do a fine job of making a mess of your operating system to the point where you will need to wipe the hard drive and reinstall fresh, far more often than you should need to.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: mookdog on June 07, 2010, 11:13:28 AM
 I have the same thing as Geo,but my anti-virus is AVI.My processor is 1.6GHz.This is the first time this has happened to me. :joystick:
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Skuzzy on June 07, 2010, 11:43:21 AM
The stick mapping disappearing will be due to the USB ID of the stick changing.  This should only happen if you move from one USB hub to another.  Or if the stick loses power while the operating system is still running.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: zack1234 on June 07, 2010, 11:58:21 AM
How do you asign you asign a piece of hardware to a specific USB port? :old:
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Ghastly on June 07, 2010, 12:19:13 PM
How do you asign you asign a piece of hardware to a specific USB port? :old:

Plug it into a specific USB port, and PRESTO, MAGICO! it's assigned to that port. :-)

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Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Skuzzy on June 07, 2010, 01:02:42 PM
Yes, and never move it.  Never unplug it.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: zack1234 on June 07, 2010, 01:50:26 PM
lol :old:
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Ghosth on June 07, 2010, 02:25:13 PM
(Quote from skuzzy) "Or if the stick loses power while the operating system is still running."

Which is why X52's should be plugged into an externally powered USB port, preferably a good one.
So it takes its power requirements directly from the wall plug via the adapter instead of from the computer.

Also turning off the MFD's, the LED's, the bells and whistles can often help.
Its not a cure all, and in some cases if the X52 has lost power often enough, they may be "warped" for life.

But it does make a major difference in a majority of cases.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Koendog on June 07, 2010, 07:33:24 PM
Can't be McAfee as mookdog uses something different and had the same thing happen. My joystick never changes ports and never gets unplugged, so that cant be it.
You running any anti-virus or any type of file security software? 
What operating system? 
Is the joystick calibrated in Windows? 
Are you using any stick manager software? 
Is the game installed in the "Program Files" folder?

Actually the game is installed in C:/Hitech Creations, not the Program Files folder. Could this have something to do with it?
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Koendog on June 08, 2010, 02:20:46 AM
Didn't have any trouble tonight, worked fine on first log in.  :rock I dunt know...
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: mbailey on June 08, 2010, 06:09:03 AM
Everything u describe happened to me Saturday morning, I relogged and it was gone, (and has been since )back to normal.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Skuzzy on June 08, 2010, 06:27:20 AM
Can't be McAfee as mookdog uses something different and had the same thing happen. <snip>

Yes, it can be.  If it is as poorly implemented as McAfee, it certainly can cause these types of problems.  Making a computer unstable is a trademark of McAfee and Norton.  There are probably others that are just as bad as those two are.  Because of the way the install (over-writting system files) you really cannot disable them entirely.

Anti-virus programs do bad things to Aces High because we are constantly updating config files.
Title: Re: Joystick mapping gone, guns empty on first log in
Post by: Ghastly on June 08, 2010, 02:41:13 PM
Yes, it can be.  If it is as poorly implemented as McAfee, it certainly can cause these types of problems.  Making a computer unstable is a trademark of McAfee and Norton.  There are probably others that are just as bad as those two are.  Because of the way the install (over-writting system files) you really cannot disable them entirely.

Anti-virus programs do bad things to Aces High because we are constantly updating config files.

Also, don't forget that virus signatures are often shared among AV providers. As a result, if one program detects a certain pattern as a virus (even when it's done erroneously - as in false positive) then others may suffer the same detection failure because they may have incorporate the same detection string into their own product.

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