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Title: No World Cup for me...
Post by: WMLute on June 12, 2010, 07:27:24 AM
Because of THIS stupid thing...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Vuvuzela_red.jpg/300px-Vuvuzela_red.jpg)
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A vuvuzela, sometimes called a "lepatata" (its Setswana name) or a stadium horn, is a blowing horn, approximately one metre in length, commonly blown by fans at football matches in South Africa. They require some lip and lung strength to blow and emit a loud monotone like a foghorn or an elephant

It is quite simply the most annoying thing I have ever heard and gives me a headache.

Tried to watch S. Africa vs. Mexico yest. and just now tried watching Greece vs. S. Korea and it ain't gonna happen.

FIFA screwed the pooch when they opted to allow this in the 2010 World Cup and it is gonna cost them viewers.  
(me for one)

I was looking forward to watching the WC this year but if I have to listen to that blaring drone of a noise i'm "out".

Maybe next World Cup.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: gpwurzel on June 12, 2010, 07:28:30 AM
Lute, try muting your television, and listening to the commentary on an online radio (radio 5 for instance  ;))

Agree they are waaaaay annoying tho.

Wurzel
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: RTHolmes on June 12, 2010, 07:35:30 AM
It is quite simply the most annoying thing I have ever heard

Isnt it? keep hearing radio reports from SA, its all you can hear in the background. sounds like a massive cloud of horseflys.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: WMLute on June 12, 2010, 07:38:21 AM
They have GOT to figure out a way to tone that down a tad.  If they tweaked the sound of it down just a tad, maybe by 1/3, it would be bearable.  You can't tell me a decent sound guy couldn't isolate that noise and reduce it.

I am Googlin' now looking to see who I can email and complain.  So far I am finding a large amount of people also complaining about it so hopefully someone at the networks will get smart and do something about it.

I can't imagine 3 weeks of that constant drone in the background.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Reschke on June 12, 2010, 07:50:00 AM
Yeah they put those at my teams football games and basketball games about the time I was finishing up and I snatched one out of a kids backpack on campus one day and stomped it in the ground. They are the most annoying plastic things ever produced.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Curval on June 12, 2010, 07:57:59 AM
South African fans are quickly becoming despised around the world for blowing those damn things.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: RTHolmes on June 12, 2010, 08:15:02 AM
They have GOT to figure out a way to tone that down a tad.  If they tweaked the sound of it down just a tad, maybe by 1/3, it would be bearable.  You can't tell me a decent sound guy couldn't isolate that noise and reduce it.

they already are (certainly bbc radio are) as much as they can. tricky to eliminate though, you've got thousands of sources at slightly different frequencies, plus their beats and harmonics. essentially you have a bunch of noise operating over most of the vocal range. engineer's nightmare.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: APDrone on June 12, 2010, 08:20:33 AM
Lute, try muting your television, and listen to 'Yakity Sax' in the background. 



Fixed.

Actually, this might be a practical application for close captioning...
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: gpwurzel on June 12, 2010, 08:24:30 AM
he he he Drone, I listen to my ipod instead and watch the football.....I can live without the commentary

Wurzel
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: katanaso on June 12, 2010, 09:30:52 AM
Funny, 20 minutes ago, my wife was talking to me as I started the Argentina / Nigeria game, and she stopped and asked, "What is that horrible noise?"   :lol


mir
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: 68ZooM on June 12, 2010, 10:36:43 AM
i was wondering what that horriable noise was, i got tired of hearing it so i changed channels
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: TinmanX on June 12, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
No mute button?

Anyone remember taking one of these to a match on a rainy Saturday afternoon?
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Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Dawger on June 12, 2010, 04:27:06 PM
Yes...they have to get rid of the noise. Gonna chase off the casual fans in a few days.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Scherf on June 12, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
No good can come of me replying in this thread.


Consider me skuzzified.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: crazierthanu on June 12, 2010, 04:37:29 PM
I remember watching the very first game of the cup and being like, "what the hell is that?"

Imagine being there.  :uhoh

Curious if its distracting to the players?
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Beefcake on June 12, 2010, 04:40:09 PM
Well any good sports show is going to have their announcer audio separated from their natural sound. (IE the noise of the crowd.) So it should be the sound board operator lowing the natural sound and raising the announcer volume. That is unless they announcers are outside with the crowd in which the natural sound would overpower the mics anyway.  
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Bruv119 on June 12, 2010, 04:50:45 PM
i just mute it,  I like listening to my own commentary     :D

I could still hear the Steel band though!

Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: xbrit on June 12, 2010, 05:18:16 PM
No mute button?

Anyone remember taking one of these to a match on a rainy Saturday afternoon?
(http://www.getyourkitsout.com/Ebay.h4.jpg)
Yeah I remember using one of those back in the 60's/70's when I went to a few games. they were annoying but not like those S. African things.Was watching highlights of a game and my wife who is blind asked "is that a nature show with all of those bees humming?"
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: bravoa8 on June 12, 2010, 10:27:28 PM
Funny, 20 minutes ago, my wife was talking to me as I started the Argentina / Nigeria game, and she stopped and asked, "What is that horrible noise?"   :lol


mir
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: MiloMorai on June 12, 2010, 10:45:40 PM
Well any good sports show is going to have their announcer audio separated from their natural sound. (IE the noise of the crowd.) So it should be the sound board operator lowing the natural sound and raising the announcer volume.

That is what happened, at least according to a post game show on the first day. Supposedly the announcers were over powered by the horn noise.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: SmokinLoon on June 13, 2010, 07:27:37 AM
Because of THIS stupid thing...

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Vuvuzela_red.jpg/300px-Vuvuzela_red.jpg)
It is quite simply the most annoying thing I have ever heard and gives me a headache.

Tried to watch S. Africa vs. Mexico yest. and just now tried watching Greece vs. S. Korea and it ain't gonna happen.

FIFA screwed the pooch when they opted to allow this in the 2010 World Cup and it is gonna cost them viewers.  
(me for one)

I was looking forward to watching the WC this year but if I have to listen to that blaring drone of a noise i'm "out".

Maybe next World Cup.


LOL!  You're not being culturally tolerant!   ;)   
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: guncrasher on June 13, 2010, 05:39:28 PM
been watching soccer for 30 something years now.  dont remember ever seen a game where it doesnt sound like a horn playing. and that was before they allowed the horns in the stands  :).  but I understand what you are saying, I dont watch college football because i hate the stupid band playing.

semp
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: grizz441 on June 13, 2010, 05:42:15 PM
Like somebody bringing an air horn to a graduation ceremony.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: greens on June 14, 2010, 06:21:17 AM
Oh good i thot i was the only one freakingout MAN!
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Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Tec on June 14, 2010, 06:33:54 AM
You are freaking out..... man. :noid
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: RTHolmes on June 14, 2010, 07:30:00 AM
I actually dont mind it during games, its just the other stuff like interviews outside the ground where its really annoying. took me a while to stop looking at the clock and waiting for the ref to blow for full time though (reminds me of last 5mins of matches where the fans want it over).

its always going to be strange for our friends from USA though because you guys are almost silent spectators. the rest of the world are very noisy when we support our teams, whether its singing and chanting in europe, airhorns in S america etc. we're even passionate and noisy supporting cricket! (google: barmy army)
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: dhyran on June 14, 2010, 08:42:48 AM
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/pages/Silence-the-Vuvuzela-that-annoying-bee-buzzing-horn-at-the-World-Cup/104604589588076

 :aok
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Denholm on June 14, 2010, 09:04:58 AM
You could scare the old Roman Empire with an army of football fans blowing their Vuvuzelas.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: greens on June 15, 2010, 05:04:52 AM
they may be piping them annoying horns down alittle
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: sntslilhlpr6601 on June 15, 2010, 05:58:37 AM
Found this somewhere:

- Vuvuzela 127 dB
- Air-horn 123.6 dB
- Samba drum 122.2 dB
- Referee whistle 121.8 dB
- 2 fans singing 121.6 dB
- Gas horn 121.4 dB
- Cowbell 114.9 dB
- Wooden rattle 108.2 dB
- Inflatable Fan-Sticks 99.1 dB

Can't imagine what its like being there. I read somewhere that the players can't even hear the referee whistle. That's pretty pathetic, if you ask me. I mean, its a given when something exciting happens on the field but this is just constant throughout the entire game.

Where there's a will there's a way: http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2010-06/simple-software-can-filter-out-vuvuzela-whine
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Swoop on June 15, 2010, 07:35:50 AM
Here ya go Lute, problem solved:

www.antivuvuzelafilter.com
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: WMLute on June 15, 2010, 10:20:35 AM
I've seen several shows now (morning shows, ESPN, etc) and apparently lots of people have the same complaint about the durn horn as I do.

I don't even like to watch highlights of the games now because of it.

I will say that last highlight show it 'seemed' that they were toned down a bit so maybe someone is doing something.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: Raptor on June 15, 2010, 10:53:48 AM
They are slowly fading, I am actually able to hear some of the chants now. I loved seeing the crowd do the wave in Italy vs Paraguay. When is the last time that happened in the NFL?
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: RightF00T on June 15, 2010, 05:57:46 PM
Here ya go Lute, problem solved:

www.antivuvuzelafilter.com

LOL! It's amazing how quickly people cash in on things...would love to see their profit margin next week....although when I heard complaints about the sound I wondered why the audio guys don't just do that in post-production....it's just a matter of cloning the sound and putting it in phase.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: 68Wooley on June 16, 2010, 12:30:11 AM
They are slowly fading, I am actually able to hear some of the chants now. I loved seeing the crowd do the wave in Italy vs Paraguay. When is the last time that happened in the NFL?

Crowds doing a wave usually means dull, boring game.

Which would be about right for a game involving Italy.
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: ozrocker on June 16, 2010, 07:14:28 AM
Heard on News last night. The networks will use more filters to reduce the noise (sounds like hornets on steroids).
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Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: WMLute on June 17, 2010, 06:37:18 AM
Hitler hates the vuvezela (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-Ln_rqPpPk)
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: soda72 on June 17, 2010, 10:51:06 AM
The horn noise is annoying..

I've never been into soccer but I thought I'd give it a shot this year to see what it's all about..

I tried listening to the USA vs UK game just couldn't get into it( the horn noise wasn't helping ).. 

I didn't realize they allow games to end in tie's?
:headscratch:

I think this simpson clip sums it up for me ...

The Simpson's-broadcasting soccer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noOHdTQd6H8&feature=related)



Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: ROX on June 17, 2010, 10:55:27 AM
I wish the people blowing those horns would sit on them instead....violently.


ROX
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: TinmanX on June 17, 2010, 11:05:36 AM

I tried listening to the USA vs UK game just couldn't get into it( the horn noise wasn't helping ).. 


When was that game?  :noid
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: soda72 on June 17, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
When was that game?  :noid

Saturday...

I guess the correct term is USA vs England...

UK England it's all the same to me...

 :lol

 
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: guncrasher on June 18, 2010, 06:03:38 PM
I saw todays game, the horns or whatever you call them, are mostly gone.  I could actually hear people singing.   :banana: :banana:

semp
Title: Re: No World Cup for me...
Post by: 68Wooley on June 19, 2010, 12:43:39 PM
Saturday...

I guess the correct term is USA vs England...

UK England it's all the same to me...

 :lol

 

Try saying that in a Scottish bar...  :aok