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Title: Japanese Carriers
Post by: FiLtH on June 16, 2010, 03:38:19 PM
  I'd like to see Japanese CVs included in the game. Perhaps give them different traits such as slower repair times or less durable. Make their escorts look like IJN vessels as well.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Raptor on June 16, 2010, 03:49:13 PM
+Like
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Spikes on June 16, 2010, 03:51:58 PM
I like, would these be just mixed in randomly with maps? Ie you don't know which Carrier you are going to get, depending on the port?
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: whipster22 on June 16, 2010, 04:02:07 PM
whipster like, whipster want,  gimme it.  :angel:
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Beefcake on June 16, 2010, 04:04:44 PM
+1

I'd love to see different carrier fleets in the game, the Japanese defiantly need one and quickly so we can get it in for the next scenario.  :)
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: grumpy37 on June 16, 2010, 04:08:36 PM
+1

But i can already hear it now, "You guys have the better carrier group"  Would have to balanced so each side gets the same number of each carrier group.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: EDO43 on June 16, 2010, 04:20:16 PM
I'd prefer the British carriers with armored decks
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: FiLtH on June 16, 2010, 04:27:54 PM
  Yes add them too :)
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: RaptorL on June 16, 2010, 05:27:51 PM
I like  :aok
Here's a post I did on having a Japanese Navy along with other sites of different types of ships.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,274095.msg3432637.html#msg3432637 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,274095.msg3432637.html#msg3432637)

http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm (http://www.combinedfleet.com/kaigun.htm)
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: DERK13 on June 16, 2010, 05:30:45 PM
I like, would these be just mixed in randomly with maps? Ie you don't know which Carrier you are going to get, depending on the port?

what if they switch off every time 1 is taken out per port
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Karnak on June 16, 2010, 05:48:51 PM
  I'd like to see Japanese CVs included in the game. Perhaps give them different traits such as slower repair times or less durable. Make their escorts look like IJN vessels as well.
Japanese fleet carriers were just as tough as American fleet carriers.  Pocket carriers I don't know about, but US pocket carriers didn't get hit much.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: lyric1 on June 16, 2010, 06:05:16 PM
So long as we can launch B25's off of it & do the Tokyo raid.



































































Only kidding. :bolt:
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: E25280 on June 16, 2010, 07:13:13 PM
A Japanese carrier group with less effective AA could be useful in the early war arena where you have '40-41 planes trying to contend with '45-style ack.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: dunnrite on June 16, 2010, 08:21:03 PM
I wonder if it could be implemented to only be able to up country specific planes for special events and ava?

If so, +1

if not, I really don't see the need
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: AirFlyer on June 16, 2010, 10:23:20 PM
+1

But i can already hear it now, "You guys have the better carrier group"  Would have to balanced so each side gets the same number of each carrier group.

Would definitely be an issue in the MA's, but I'm sure scenario's, AVA, etc etc would get a nice use out of them. A Shokaku class CV would be neat though IMO.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: SgtPappy on June 16, 2010, 11:20:25 PM
Since we all currently have US flattops for everyone, I don't think it would be a problem if there were IJN flattops for say knights and British flattops for the rooks, while the bishops retain the US ships.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: bravoa8 on June 16, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
Since we all currently have US flattops for everyone, I don't think it would be a problem if there were IJN flattops for say knights and British flattops for the rooks, while the bishops retain the US ships.
Sounds great. :aok
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: FiLtH on June 17, 2010, 12:04:49 AM
  That would be cool too.


   WHat I was thinking for the MA was if it was a hassle to make them all different as far as damage etc, then just have them all the same, BUT...make them all adjustable SEPARATELY, so that when events happen you can tailor the damage control, AA strength of the fleet etc. 

   But it would be cool to have some difference between them in the MA. May add a little something.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: lulu on June 17, 2010, 12:50:31 AM
Can USAF planes take-off from a japanese cvs?

 :salute
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: AirFlyer on June 17, 2010, 02:08:44 AM
Essex Class CV Dimensions
872ft x 93ft x 23ft

Shokaku Class CV Dimensions
844ft x 85ft x 29ft

A bit smaller but I don't think it would cause any problems.

P.S. Come to think of it is our carrier an Essex or a Yorktown? That might actually be smaller then the Shokaku.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Greebo on June 17, 2010, 04:40:31 AM
Our carrier is an improved Essex class, specifically the USS Randolph. The main improvement was a longer hull which made the overall length 888 feet.

I'd like to see British and Japanese carrier groups too. I'm not sure whether the extra 3D shapes and textures would increase the terrain file sizes or resources too much for MA use though.

I'd think it more likely we could see them in custom event terrains. I wonder if this is something HTC could farm out to players. There's a few guys who are pretty good with 3D modelling software. Perhaps players could make the 3D ship models to HTC specs and then they work them into the game (gun positions, arrestor wires etc.) Terrain builders could then add these ships to their terrains as necessary.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: shreck on June 17, 2010, 09:57:36 AM
The Yamato and Musashi must be added for those desperate "fleet duels"  :aok They would be quite effective till they ran out of oil  :rofl :rofl   :bolt:

Not CVs but adding the ":rock lobbers" would be fun also
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: AirFlyer on June 17, 2010, 10:52:17 AM
If we got a Yamamoto(sp) class battleship I think we would need an Iowa class to equal it, right now our task groups only have cruisers.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Bino on June 17, 2010, 03:39:24 PM
Japanese fleet carriers were just as tough as American fleet carriers
...

Not according to "Shattered Sword" by Parshall & Tully.  Damage control systems and procedures were neither as redundant nor as effective as in the USN.  The book also goes into very specific detail to show that the AA artillery on IJN CVs in 1942 was simply not capable of dealing with a dive-bomber attack.  And, perhaps worst of all, aviation fuel storage tanks were integral to, not isolated from the hull.  :O
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: E25280 on June 17, 2010, 06:13:08 PM
If we got a Yamamoto(sp) class battleship
The battleship class is Yamato.

The Japanese admiral in charge of the Combined Fleet at the start of WWII was Isoroku Yamamoto.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Rino on June 17, 2010, 06:14:58 PM
     No matter how you spell it, neither of them made it to the end of the war  :D
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: AirFlyer on June 17, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
The battleship class is Yamato.

The Japanese admiral in charge of the Combined Fleet at the start of WWII was Isoroku Yamamoto.

The (sp) meant I wasn't sure if I spelt it right, I always thought it was named after him though, go figure.
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: KingRat on June 18, 2010, 12:16:20 AM
I think the maps might be too small for battleship guns...if you can shell a field now with 8" cruiser guns from 25-30k out you'd be hitting fields from 2 sectors with 14" guns (or the 18" I think the Yamato and sister ship carried).  People would shell fields from port as soon as the battleship spawned.  In my opinion the cv groups are fine as far as capabilities and defensive firepower, but it would be nice to have CVs of other countries just for the looks.   
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: LLogann on June 18, 2010, 01:10:56 AM



































Gutless sweethearts, that have no honor.  
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: GreenEagle43 on June 18, 2010, 02:34:40 PM
not a bad idea. we could change skin's like we do for the planes. and that way they could have a jap.brit,American,German,and Russian fleets. hmm. did the Russians have a fleet back then ? and then hitec could put some color full skins on the ships with flags hanging from them.
 :aok I'm in sounds good hitec....
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: slayer1 on June 18, 2010, 11:59:29 PM
it would be a change from the essex class carriers that we see everytime we go to a cv! im voting for it!  :aok

~slayer~
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: Simba on June 19, 2010, 07:59:31 AM
To quote Lord Haw-Haw, 'where is the Ark Royal?'

And, unlike USN and IJN vessels, Royal Navy ships aren't 'dry' - splice the mainbrace!

 :cool:
Title: Re: Japanese Carriers
Post by: xthecatx on June 22, 2010, 04:34:41 AM
 :aok :aok