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Title: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: mbailey on June 19, 2010, 09:44:11 AM
Does anyone have any experiance with these? Any suggestions as to brands or stories of how well they work?
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: fudgums on June 19, 2010, 09:48:21 AM
We have one, it works pretty good. After their trained, once they hear the beep from the collar, they start running back away from it.
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: uptown on June 19, 2010, 09:53:55 AM
My dad has one of these set-ups to keep his retarded Basset Hounds in his yard. From what I understand, he has a rod at each corner of the property and a electrical current connects them together. His dogs have a collar when draws that current the closer they get to the invisible line.
I think he said it cost him $2500 bucks or maybe a little less? I put up a 6' wooden fence cheaper then his fancy high tech thing. :lol His yard is about 1/2 a acre bigger then mine though.

He says it works good...but it should for that kind of money.
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: shotgunneeley on June 19, 2010, 09:57:43 AM
Always wondered how long it would take the dog to figure out to turn around when the collar starts shocking it. My two dogs would be under a pine top curled up in the fettle position  :lol
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Baitman on June 19, 2010, 10:47:28 AM
Works good with the kids too
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: USRanger on June 19, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
Works good with the kids too

Was just about to ask that. :devil
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Baitman on June 19, 2010, 11:01:04 AM
Was just about to ask that. :devil

Get the ones with a training button to train the kids  not to talk back too....
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: mechanic on June 19, 2010, 11:30:35 AM
my friend has one, the most fun is when speople are drunk and you bet them they can't get out of the garden whilst wearing the collar round their neck. You will lose the bet but it's worth it.
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Wayout on June 19, 2010, 01:32:56 PM
 Only down side I've heard is the fence does keep the dog in but it doesn't keep other animals out.  A friend's dog was killed when a large stray entered his yard and attacked his dog.  Around here we have coyotes so a fence is needed to keep thing out as much as it's needed to keep things in. 
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: bj229r on June 19, 2010, 02:48:39 PM
Does anyone have any experiance with these? Any suggestions as to brands or stories of how well they work?
They're all pretty much the same, but if you have a BIG dog, there's a much heftier collar, that employs a 9 volt battery. If you put it in yourself, dont use the cheaparse wire that came with it, use 14 gauge, stranded, THHN, and an edger to make the slit with which to insert the wire.  (You DON'T want to do this twice)
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: crazyivan on June 19, 2010, 05:28:40 PM
Well I've shocked myself withit once so yes theres  a little  beep  before the shock. My pointer won't leave the house with the collar on. My retreiver just runs around  like a bee stung her. :D
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: curry1 on June 19, 2010, 05:42:12 PM
I have one it works great.  That is as long as your dumb bellybutton neighbors don't decide to put a tree in without telling you and cut the line. <---------happened to me
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Reschke on June 19, 2010, 08:43:17 PM
DON'T BUY THE CHEAPO MODELS from Lowes or Home Depot. They suck! Get one of the professional grades and turn that bastage WAY THE F UP THERE!

Comes from lots of calls and searches for the stupidest dog in the world...anyone want her?
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Slash27 on June 20, 2010, 04:08:52 AM
Spent $1800 to have my 4 acres done and it was worth every penny.
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: 1pLUs44 on June 20, 2010, 04:15:06 AM
DON'T BUY THE CHEAPO MODELS from Lowes or Home Depot. They suck! Get one of the professional grades and turn that bastage WAY THE F UP THERE!

Comes from lots of calls and searches for the stupidest dog in the world...anyone want her?


No thanks! I had one of them before, 140 pounds of muscle, and was scared of toads! You'd hear him barking for hours only to go outside with a pistol to find him barking at a toad 5 feet from his dog house!  :lol Big ol' goofy mutt ate everything in the yard, but for some reason, always defended a toy spongebob with his LIFE! And if you got near that thing and tried to take it away, be ready for a fight!  :aok
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: bj229r on June 20, 2010, 07:47:03 AM
DON'T BUY THE CHEAPO MODELS from Lowes or Home Depot. They suck! Get one of the professional grades and turn that bastage WAY THE F UP THERE!

Comes from lots of calls and searches for the stupidest dog in the world...anyone want her?
The fence is a pretty low-tech thing--the wire puts out a field---crank it up...the field reaches further. If the COLLAR sees the field, it discharges the capacitor into Fluffy's neck. (It REALLY @#@#$@#ing HURTS too!) If a Dalmatian, possibly the stupidest dog there is, can figure it out, any dog can be trained to it
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: kamori on June 20, 2010, 08:19:03 AM
In time you can shut off the system the dogs will remember the boundary as long as the collar is on.
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Baitman on June 20, 2010, 10:05:09 AM
Works with cats too
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: mbailey on June 20, 2010, 10:33:02 AM
Thanks for all the responses guys. Did anyone install it themselves or did you have someone do it? Im really handy and can do most construction myself, can do electrical also( switches lights breakers etc), so my thoughts are do it myself, but im a tad concerned as i dont want to do something wrong and it not work. Any ideas? Im not overly concerned with the cost of me doing it or hiring someone.

I really appreciate all the feed back gents
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: bj229r on June 20, 2010, 10:52:20 AM
Thanks for all the responses guys. Did anyone install it themselves or did you have someone do it? Im really handy and can do most construction myself, can do electrical also( switches lights breakers etc), so my thoughts are do it myself, but im a tad concerned as i dont want to do something wrong and it not work. Any ideas? Im not overly concerned with the cost of me doing it or hiring someone.

I really appreciate all the feed back gents
It's easy to install yourself (albeit tedious) Use an edger to make a slit in the turf, stuff the wire in. In the end, there will be ONE long wire leaving the controller, going around the yard, and coming back to the other terminal. If there are areas where you DONT want Fluffy to get zapped, plan the wire run out ahead of time, and twist both wires together in a braid for that length (for instance, in the basement, on the way to the garden that you want to keep Fluffy out of, etc) Going under sidewalks, etc, is a pisser, but not impossible
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Coshy on June 20, 2010, 04:49:17 PM
We put one up for our dog. Easy and simple. Read the included directions and be sure to plan where the wire will run, where you want the dog to have access, where you want restrictions, etc. The simplest is a circuit around the perimeter of your property, but you can get more complex by "fencing" off gardens, driveways, etc.

The collar or controller should have settings that regulate the distance from the fence where the tone vs. shock will be delivered, as well as the severity and frequency of the tone and shock.

A common misconception is your dog gets shocked each time it breaks the outer "zone". In our research the dog gets a warning tone from the collar, and if it continues, then a shock is administered and re-administered until the dog leaves the zone. Most also come with a hand-held remote control which allows you to administer tone and/or shock.

One demand I had was that both my wife and I get zapped by the collar before we put it on the dog. Ours had variable settings and on the lowest settings the shock was just a tingle, while on the highest setting it did hurt for a moment, but quickly wore off.

Training your dog is critical to the invisible fence being successful. Use the flags (which should be supplied with your kit) and the training DVD (should also be supplied) to properly train your dog as to where his/her boundaries are. Approach the flags (which should be set at the perimeter where the tone starts, not where the wire is buried), then quickly retreat to a safe distance. Do this multiple times in multiple places around your yard. Too may people just throw the fence down, slap on the collar, crank up the regulator and are surprised when it doesn't work the way they thought it did.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: curry1 on June 20, 2010, 07:55:40 PM
Works with cats too
:rofl
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: morfiend on June 20, 2010, 08:20:00 PM
 As far as I know these fences work ok for some breeds of dogs but not all!

 Dogs with high prey drives may just ignore the collar and cross the wire,remember it's not the wire it's the collar that does the work. You can get different size shockers for the collar and this is were the problems are,most simply dont use a large enough shocker to stop the dog.

 Personally I dont like these types of devices and would suggest either a dogrun{kennel} or a perimator fence,as someone has said the fence only works to keep your dog in and will let other animals or dogs pass which isnt fair to your dog.

 Of course this is my oppinion and you can take for what thats worth.

   :salute
Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: Halo on June 20, 2010, 09:57:01 PM
Here is a sketchy summary of a confusing electronic fence / electronic collar incident that never should have happened.

My adult daughter was driving in the country near her farm when she stopped to photograph a horse in a fenced pasture. A large dog came loping down the road but seemed friendly enough. As it got near it suddenly became agitated and bit her leg, drawing blood. She jumped on her SUV as the dog ran around and then got under the car. Eventually the owner came driving up and retrieved the dog. Apparently the dog had one of those electronic collars on but still somehow got out of the electronic fence area.

When the dog escaped like that, the owner was in the habit of sending a shock to the collar to get the dog back home. In this case, the dog reacted to the shock by biting my daughter. Unfortunate escape, unfortunate solution.

Fortunately the owner happened upon the scene and produced documentation of rabies vacinnation. The owner and the dog both seemed civilized although responsible for an unprovoked attack on an innocent person. In the brief instant of the attack, anyone seeing the bite probably would have been inclined to kill the dog had a weapon been available.

Another example of Murphy's Law. For future eventualities, I bought my daughter a retractable steel baton like law enforcement uses (yes, that's legal in my area).  Still, as in most attacks, this was entirely unexpected and in its suddeness probably could not have been prevented no matter what armanent was available.

Title: Re: Invisible Dog Fences
Post by: morfiend on June 20, 2010, 11:46:20 PM
 Halo,your story is exactly why I wrote my post! :aok

 IMHO there is only 1 legitimate reason to use electricity to train a dog,thats to teach a working gaurd dog not to take any food that might be thrown into it's working area. To me this is a last resort to save the dog from ingesting poison and or seditives and only for "real working gaurd dogs".

 I know a couple of dog owners who lost their dog to cars because the dog ignored the fence to chase a cat or squirrel.As much as I hate to see a dog chained I'd rather see that used than risk my dog's life to an electric fence/collar combination.

   :salute