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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Slade on June 21, 2010, 04:16:10 PM
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Hello All,
Is it true the FW190 F-8 is built tougher (in this game) being a ground attack variant?
This seems to be true to me but I do not have any facts to prove this.
Thanks for your comments,
Slade :salute
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Yes. It has assitional armor modeled. It almost rarely ever loses oil, but it's a LOT heavier because of this so it's the worst plane to dogfight by a long shot.
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I've always been told that the F-8 has more armor around the engine and with only being able to glance at the aircraft weight in relation to the 190A-8 there really is no other way to verify it (other than noticing less engine oil on the windshield :) ).
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HTC didn't have an F8 set of specs, so they just modeled it with a climb and speed chart identical to the A8 (which is wrong). However, that extra weight will really hurt it in any turning or manuvering it needs to do. The F8 is 500lbs heavier than the already-500lbs-overweight A8 model, and is the heaviest of all FW models.
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Krusty is right its 1000lbs heavier than the A8 should be. It has more armor, and is heavier. But that just makes it a better deacking plane (start up hill, pick up some speed, and kill ack gun, and get out before you take too many hits.
However, I didn't know HTC gave it the same speed and climb chart as the 190A8.
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Thanks so much for the comments on the F8 guys. :salute
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F8 rockets can kill a tank in 1 hit...
just sayin
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provided your rocket doesn't ricochet, and provided the armor doesn't do its job for once.
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F8 rockets can kill a tank in 1 hit...
just sayin
agreed... :noid
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provided your rocket doesn't ricochet, and provided the armor doesn't do its job for once.
Nope. It's not a HE rocket. It's a shaped charge warhead made to punch through armor up to 90mm.
If you hit, most tanks in AH really just go boom.
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IDK if its that simple. I've seen a T-34/85 take at least 5 rockets to the side with no effect (was sitting next to the guy). When he pulled forward, there was a cluster of craters, a clear spot (where he was sitting, and blocked the rockets), and then another cluster of craters.
I've also scored hits on panzers yield no kill, which makes me think theres more than "it penetrates 90mm of armor, so if you hit something that has less than 90mm's of armor, you kill it".
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This tour I was trying (again) to use the F-8 as my main tank buster, and to that purpose I practiced a lot offline and watched the films. I found that when I did hit, the tank was gone most of the time... the problem was just to get any hits and no "near misses" in the first place.
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Nope. It's not a HE rocket. It's a shaped charge warhead made to punch through armor up to 90mm.
If you hit, most tanks in AH really just go boom.
Isn't a bit of a HE blast modeled too? Yesterday I killed 2 M3s with these rockets and after reviewing the film, I was suprised to find that in both instances the rockets just missed the targets, but the M3s still blew up. I had the impression that these rockets are indeed all or nothing, depending if you hit or not.
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Isn't a bit of a HE blast modeled too?
Yes, it is. You still can use them to kill structures and the like. I use the 190F-8 to kill cruisers with a 500kg bomb and a salvo of rockets.
It's just like an added advantage of being able to kill tanks better with a direct hit. With a near miss, they work similar to other (HE) rockets.
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That would explain my damaged engine when I salvoed that M4. I thought he got me with his pintil.
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srry, double post. Ah well, lets put it to use.
Lusche, can you give us some tips on using the 190F8 for tank busting?
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Lusche, can you give us some tips on using the 190F8 for tank busting?
Not really, because I still suck on the "hitting" part. I just can't get the hang on PB1 ballistics, even after having practiced a lot in offline mode.
The RW tactic was flying low and shooting salvos of at least 4-6 rockets, only experienced pilots had any luck with less than that.
I'D say this would be a good tactic in AH too, you just have to get same speed/range every run for consistency.
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Yeah, that would do it. I don't think anyone could do it with one rocket with any sort of consistency.
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Not really, because I still suck on the "hitting" part. I just can't get the hang on PB1 ballistics, even after having practiced a lot in offline mode.
The RW tactic was flying low and shooting salvos of at least 4-6 rockets, only experienced pilots had any luck with less than that.
I'D say this would be a good tactic in AH too, you just have to get same speed/range every run for consistency.
this tactic actually works very well in the game as long as you understand rocketry ballistics in AH which most people do. killed 3 tanks with one sometime back two with rockets and 1 with the 250kg
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this tactic actually works very well in the game as long as you understand rocketry ballistics in AH which most people do.
I disagree with "most people do" especially when it comes to the need of having pinpoint rocket accuracy vs tanks.
Over the years it has been shown that most players have a very hard time doing this, resulting in a very low use of the F-8 as a tank buster.
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I disagree with "most people do" especially when it comes to the need of having pinpoint rocket accuracy vs tanks.
Over the years it has been shown that most players have a very hard time doing this, resulting in a very low use of the F-8 as a tank buster.
thats not exactly what i meant lusche. if you fire off a salvo of 4-6 it increases your chance of hitting if you know the PB-1's general tragectory after fired. i haven't used the F8 much myself but i am liking it so far since i started using it :aok
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I disagree with "most people do" especially when it comes to the need of having pinpoint rocket accuracy vs tanks.
Over the years it has been shown that most players have a very hard time doing this, resulting in a very low use of the F-8 as a tank buster.
Its like killing tanks with the IL2 rockets, pretty tough to do...In my practice the rockets of the IL2 have a convergence point at around 300 yards. Sorry for the IL2 hijack, keep going ^^