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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: falcon23 on June 24, 2010, 06:28:36 PM
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OK.me and DAKone did some experimenting in-game..Here is the conclusion we came up with...Oh,and we were over water..
DAR DOT shows in ring at an ACTUAL 60 feet,NOT 65.......dots gone at 55
DAR BAR still shows at 500.......and sometimes higher.
One time,I was looking for his and when it would show,and he got up to 1100 feet,and still I saw no dar BAR......Then when I bailed went to tower,I could then see it...
OI had others from my side,look for my dar above 500 feet and thery couldnt see it either...
Something odd is going on,and I know that it would sure be nice to have a stabilized base-line to work off of...
TY,
Falcon23 :salute
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How often does the game refresh the locations of other people on radar? I think that may be the kicker.
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I will ask the same question I have asked in another thread. What part of the aircraft is considered above DAR top middle bottom?
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How often does the game refresh the locations of other people on radar? I think that may be the kicker.
Radar refresh is set to 2 per HiTechs post about the LW settings.
IIRC that is 2 seconds.
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IIRC that is 2 seconds.
That seems pretty quick to me.. I can't recall having seen dots refreshing / moving every 2 seconds :headscratch:
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd183/Bearman761/Radar.jpg)
Dude, stay under 65 feet!!
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I will ask the same question I have asked in another thread. What part of the aircraft is considered above DAR top middle bottom?
This?
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That seems pretty quick to me.. I can't recall having seen dots refreshing / moving every 2 seconds :headscratch:
My observance has been more like 10
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Makes mental note, hunt Bear 76 when next on - unless he comes over here and cleans my desk........
:D :D
Wurzel
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My observance has been more like 10
Yup. I just used my timer in LWB, dots were updating every 10 seconds.
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Makes mental note, hunt Bear 76 when next on - unless he comes over here and cleans my desk........
:D :D
Wurzel
I'll be looking for a plane ticket in the mail :D
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(http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd183/Bearman761/Radar.jpg)
Dude, stay under 65 feet!!
If sea level is 0 feet & 65 feet is max before you give your self away then would the very top of the highest point of you aircraft have to be below that cap?
If so depending on the height of the aircraft your flying you would need to be at a height different to a smaller aircrafts height to stay below 65 feet :headscratch: I guess. So what is the portion of the plane that will determine if radar is alerted or not.
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it is giving one away at 60 feet...and darbar is intermittent at times as far as height.,at least when tested today.
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If sea level is 0 feet & 65 feet is max before you give your self away then would the very top of the highest point of you aircraft have to be below that cap?
Simple answer: The one your altimeter is showing. As long as your altimeter is showing less than 65 (or better:60), you are golden. You don't really need to know what part of your plane has to be below dar alt.
The radar is using the same number as a reference as your altimeter is.
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Simple answer: The one your altimeter is showing. As long as your altimeter is showing less than 65, you are golden. You don't really need to know what part of your plane has to be below dar alt.
This is wrong..the radar is showing DOTS at 60 ...
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Simple answer: The one your altimeter is showing. As long as your altimeter is showing less than 65 (or better:60), you are golden. You don't really need to know what part of your plane has to be below dar alt.
The radar is using the same number as a reference as your altimeter is.
OK that is what I wanted to know the game setting is determining safe or not regardless of aircraft manufactured height. :aok
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This is wrong..the radar is showing DOTS at 60 ...
Hmmm can I ask how you were able to measure your altutude that precisely inflight?
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p51....registered at 60 feet..and dakone was in a 38...
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Film?
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This is wrong..the radar is showing DOTS at 60 ...
Stop :cry :cry and fight. Your NOE raids are over.
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60 or 65 feet what the big deal...its 5 feet big whoop...
Kam
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60 or 65 feet what the big deal...its 5 feet big whoop...
Kam
Actually it's a significant difference, that 5 feet is worth 8% of your underdar "buffer zone"
<side note> 65 feet is way too low. It's only possible to stay underneath that if you are flying over the ocean.
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p51....registered at 60 feet..and dakone was in a 38...
Hmmm can I ask how you were able to measure your altutude that precisely inflight?
Registered how?
Film it and look at the ALT on the film to be certain.
wrongway
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How can I film MYSELF showing a RED DOT in an enemys DARRING?
This is why it took 2 people,one from each side to see the OTHERS dot..
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How can I film MYSELF showing a RED DOT in an enemys DARRING?
This is why it took 2 people,one from each side to see the OTHERS dot..
Go fly and test with another person.
Film your flight.
Have them confirm over VOX when your dot becomes visible
Save Film
Watch film
Stop film at point above.
Look at your altitude in the film viewer.
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When testing and you think you had 60, how did you test because I see no reason why it would not be exactly 65.
Also update rate is a minimum of 2 secs. closer planes update faster then planes a long ways away.
How many people are online can change the update rate of distance planes.
HiTech
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Thanks for the info Hitech, I suspected something like that for the radar update, but I wasn't sure.
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Lusche more charts er ... I mean Cowbell..
Edit: New RADAR technology upgrade has elimated 96.5% of all NOE threats. That is all.
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Only change I would like to see is that low level bombers such as a20's, b26's and bostond be able to fly in formation below 65' :headscratch:
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Only change I would like to see is that low level bombers such as a20's, b26's and bostond be able to fly in formation below 65' :headscratch:
:cry :cry :cry
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I do believe I've found another one. The actual base doesn't start flashing till i believe what used to be the old dar ring. You can see the dot, but you don't see the base flash. It's kind of irritating sometimes.
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I do believe I've found another one. The actual base doesn't start flashing till i believe what used to be the old dar ring. You can see the dot, but you don't see the base flash. It's kind of irritating sometimes.
That's no bug. Warning range is an independent setting.
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I think I seen something like this happen yesterday, a couple of cons came in over the field at around 8k while radar was down, but did not show any dar bar in that sector until they got past the field still inside the dar ring. Thought it was just me, but a couple of others confirmed it as well.
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That's no bug. Warning range is an independent setting.
How do you change it then??
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How do you change it then??
By changing it in the arena settings.. if you are allowed to ;)
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Only change I would like to see is that low level bombers such as a20's, b26's and bostond be able to fly in formation below 65' :headscratch:
:cry :cry :cry
How is that a whine?
Con alt should at least be tied to a bit above minimum drone altitude. Flying below dar should be possible, even with drones. Otherwise, just make the minimum 0 feet to even it up for everyone.
wrongway
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yea masher is just a doink on my radar. Drones should fly with the lead plane. Period. Other wise that pilot has a desk job. Hey masher ride the :banana: :bolt:
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This whole new radar thing is ruining the game. :frown: No more noe missions with bombers overland, :mad: Long flights into enemy territory between radars gone :frown:,very difficult to fly between trees even with fighters since some trees higher than 60 ft. :furious Please go back to old radar scheme HT,, this one is No Good..even for furballers :salute Wasp3
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When testing and you think you had 60, how did you test because I see no reason why it would not be exactly 65.
Also update rate is a minimum of 2 secs. closer planes update faster then planes a long ways away.
How many people are online can change the update rate of distance planes.
HiTech
O.o
Serious?
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This whole new radar thing is ruining the game. :frown: No more noe missions with bombers overland, :mad: Long flights into enemy territory between radars gone :frown:,very difficult to fly between trees even with fighters since some trees higher than 60 ft. :furious Please go back to old radar scheme HT,, this one is No Good..even for furballers :salute Wasp3
Never happen, gone, forget about it, live with it, on and on......... :(
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Frankly I could care less how low it is, just knock the DAR down first before any action on that base takes place. I would like to see it update faster and have the DAR bar proportionately more accurate as to what is in the air.
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yea masher is just a doink on my radar. Drones should fly with the lead plane. Period. Other wise that pilot has a desk job. Hey masher ride the :banana: :bolt:
Anytime NOE Sally. Keep crying because I'm still laughing.
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This whole new radar thing is ruining the game. :frown: No more noe missions with bombers overland, :mad: Long flights into enemy territory between radars gone :frown:,very difficult to fly between trees even with fighters since some trees higher than 60 ft. :furious Please go back to old radar scheme HT,, this one is No Good..even for furballers :salute Wasp3
Wrong. But you keep telling yourself that as us "furballers" destroy your NOE attempts. But, even if we don't do that, we only have to get the goon and they cry about being "hunted". The toolshedders are the only ones whining.
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Wrong. But you keep telling yourself that as us "furballers" destroy your NOE attempts. But, even if we don't do that, we only have to get the goon and they cry about being "hunted". The toolshedders are the only ones whining.
If he was soooo good at destroying them then he wouldn't hate the NOE so much. By the way mash I might do like 2 NOE's a year. :neener:
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Go fly and test with another person.
Film your flight.
Have them confirm over VOX when your dot becomes visible
Save Film
Watch film
Stop film at point above.
Look at your altitude in the film viewer.
Keep in mind that there are delay issues with all of this...your client needs to send a position report to the server, the server then needs to parse it, sift through the other clients as it sends it back out, then those clients need to process the push message..before finally updating the display...and all this back and forth is crossing tons of network switches...
All in all its a whole bunch of clock cycles on a whole bunch of computers and hardware along the way...
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Sunday night in LWB, enemy red dot inside radar ring...base was not blinking. Dot moved halfway to base from dar ring...base finally starts blinking. It was a V base, if that matters.
ROX
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Sunday night in LWB, enemy red dot inside radar ring...base was not blinking. Dot moved halfway to base from dar ring...base finally starts blinking. It was a V base, if that matters.
No bug, as warning range is a setting totally independent from radar range, and HT has deliberatle left it at it's old value (12 miles)
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No bug, as warning range is a setting totally independent from radar range, and HT has deliberatle left it at it's old value (12 miles)
How many times have you had to say that so far? :rofl
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you need to type bigger with liberal use of all CAPS and Bold.
(can you HTML tag from a phone?)
wrongway
(no bracket key)
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Considering drones contain no real pilot (player), I don't believe the radar detects them. Otherwise each dot for a bomber formation would be three dots. So the height at which drones fly is irrelevant.
Base flash has nothing to do with radar. Its purpose is to represent the local population calling in to the base and saying "I see bad guy planes," hence the lack of directionality or dots. However, it seems to me a base ought to flash long before radar contacts are made in that case (as is generally the case in scenarios).
(can you HTML tag from a phone?)
wrongway
(no bracket key)
Sure, if you have greater than/less than keys...except the AHBBS rejects HTML. My old phone (before I got a smartphone) had brackets on the pound key, though.
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Falcon how are you gonna run your NOE mishuns?
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Falcon how are you gonna run your NOE mishuns?
I see it's trolling time again.