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Title: PCI-E SSD
Post by: Bino on June 26, 2010, 10:18:10 AM
Saw this yesterday over on Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3788/oczs-revodrive-pcie-ssd-preview-an-affordable-pcie-ssd

If OCZ can hit their intended price point on this, it could be a great deal on some screamingly fast I/O!   :aok
Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: Denholm on June 26, 2010, 05:09:15 PM
Thanks for the link, quite a nice option on the build to bring down the cost.
Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: Ghosth on June 26, 2010, 10:19:11 PM
Still way pricey I think compared to a standard drive, but good to see the prices coming down.

The one that caught my eye the other day was a combo WD Terrabyte drive with an LG DVD burner in one unit.
And thatwas only 160$.
Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: Tac on June 29, 2010, 10:25:52 PM
OCZ Vertex LE (Limited Edition) OCZSSD2-1VTXLE50G 2.5" 50GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227526&cm_re=Vertex_2-_-20-227-526-_-Product

dont look so bad for 150 bucks. 50 gigs is more than enough to load windows, games and programs and you keep your big 1tb hard drive sata for mass storage.
Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: Infidelz on June 30, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
These drives are much faster than mechanical hard drives. They are taking out the last bottleneck in your PC. The utilities to maintain them sound like they need to have a tad bit more ripening. So maybe just wee bit more time before I take the plunge.

INFIDELZ
Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: aaronr on July 03, 2010, 02:16:17 PM
SSD drives also have a limited number of read write cycles, folks don't talk about that much, esp mfg's.
Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: Ghastly on July 04, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
SSD drives also have a limited number of read write cycles, folks don't talk about that much, esp mfg's.

The phenomenon to which you are referring is termed "write endurance" - and is a factor in SSD's because any single block can only be written to a certain number of times before it becomes unreliable.  With the earlier, very small devices it was a significant factor in whether an SSD made sense in any particular application.  However, at this point (because of the write spreading algorithms usually referred to as "wear-leveling") you'd have to write the device constantly, straight out, for 2 decades before that becomes an issue.  In short, write endurance is as obsolete as worrying about biasing a vacuum tube.

The bigger issues have been that many of the first and less expensive second generation devices seemed to have a higher than anticipated rates of catastrophic failure, and issues with performance degradation that were particularly troublesome because they appeared to vary dramatically between near identical systems, and for which the manufacturers often claimed to not be able to duplicate.

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Title: Re: PCI-E SSD
Post by: aaronr on July 09, 2010, 05:06:25 PM
The phenomenon to which you are referring is termed "write endurance" - and is a factor in SSD's because any single block can only be written to a certain number of times before it becomes unreliable.  With the earlier, very small devices it was a significant factor in whether an SSD made sense in any particular application.  However, at this point (because of the write spreading algorithms usually referred to as "wear-leveling") you'd have to write the device constantly, straight out, for 2 decades before that becomes an issue.  In short, write endurance is as obsolete as worrying about biasing a vacuum tube.

The bigger issues have been that many of the first and less expensive second generation devices seemed to have a higher than anticipated rates of catastrophic failure, and issues with performance degradation that were particularly troublesome because they appeared to vary dramatically between near identical systems, and for which the manufacturers often claimed to not be able to duplicate.

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Humm I still run Grid bias on my pair of 4CX-1500's lol. No way to get around that unless I go to grounded grid then not enough gain.  :lol :salute

But really I will look into that info and see what it's all about. I would very much like to run some things on an SSD like my OS etc..
Thanks for the info, us old-timers sometimes fall behind the tech curve. :aok