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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Pigslilspaz on June 27, 2010, 02:53:04 AM
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Who gave the Italians the bright idea to fly eggs around?
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(http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd103/xlsrules/1277324666151.jpg)
Who gave the Italians the bright idea to fly eggs around?
:O :O
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Stipa-Caproni Flying Barrel
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thats about the nuttiest looking plane Ive ever seen. :huh
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Here's a little video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqr2h_xQRk
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I thought everyone was doing it.
(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal9/8601-8700/gal8684-P-51-Horn/01.jpg)
(http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/images/p40eggbb_1.jpg)
(http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~rfoon/images/egg/zero.jpg)
wrongway
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Its inspiration was this German a/c from WW1.
(http://www.wwi-models.org/IM/German/floh-3.jpg)
Yes it was a real a/c > DFW T28 FLOH.
http://www.the-blueprints.com/blueprints/modernplanes/modern-df-dz/24749/view/dfw_t28_floh/
The DFW T28 Floh (Flea) was designed in 1915 by the Chief Engineer of the Deutsche Flugzeugwerke GmbH of Leipzig-Lindenthal, Dipl.Ing. Hermann Dorner, and with it, its creator aimed at building a high speed fighter, hence the special emphasis put on streamlining that led to the aircrafts unparalleled silhouette. In fact it seems that in the beginning the Floh was projected as a strut and wire less aircraft but when it finally reached prototype form, struts and wires were conventionally added to an aeroplane that did not look conventional at all.
Powered by a 100hp in-line Mercedes D1 engine and armed with a single machine gun installed over the engine inside the fuselage, the Floh made a very promising first flight during which a speed of 180 Km/h was recorded, a feat at the time. This notwithstanding, German authorities chose not to sponsor the development of the aircraft due to its difficult landing characteristics (extant on the very first flight that resulted in light damage to the wing cell) and the Floh passed into history as another curiosity in military aircraft development.
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Holy Flying Headwind Batman! :lol
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It looks like a circus plane :huh
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It's a Brewster! :O :bolt:
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HAHA i'd sooo fly that!!! be a tuough lil plane to hit..... unless your goin to HO. :rock
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thats about the nuttiest looking plane Ive ever seen. :huh
Imagine how it looked in flight.
(http://www.things-with-wings.com/ThingsWings/stipa_flight.jpg)
The Caproni Stipa image in the first post isn't an original, it's a 3/5 scale flying replica but still would be been cool to see fly.
ack-ack
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HAHA i'd sooo fly that!!! be a tuough lil plane to hit..... unless your goin to HO. :rock
Then you can kiss your engine goodbye.
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LOL funny looking :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I'm curious as to what aerodynamic problem that design is trying to solve? Is a ducted prop more efficient than unducted? Would concentrating the prop wash over the elevator improve maneuverability at slow speeds?
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I'm curious as to what aerodynamic problem that design is trying to solve? Is a ducted prop more efficient than unducted? Would concentrating the prop wash over the elevator improve maneuverability at slow speeds?
Luigi Stipa came up with a theory that a tubular fuselage gave significant extra thrust to a conventional engine and propeller. His idea was to mount and engine and propeller inside of a fuselage that was a venturi tube and compressed the propeller's airflow and engine exhaust before it exited the duct at the trailing edge of the aircraft. He was applying Bernoulli's principle of fluid movements to make the engine more efficient.
(http://www.things-with-wings.com/ThingsWings/stipa_principle.jpg)
While he showed his idea did increase engine efficiency, the plane had so much drag that any benefits from the design were negated.
ack-ack
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It's a DOODLEBUG!!! :banana:
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its a JET!!! :x :x :x
lol :rofl
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ITS DMGOD!!! :O :O
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It was an eyintye drunken build i think they been in mousolinni's wine sellar's for the first 4 year's of the war lol :x :x :x :x :x :x :x :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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It was an eyintye drunken build i think they been in mousolinni's wine sellar's for the first 4 year's of the war
It was only meant to be a test bed to test Stipa's "intubed propeller" idea. As an "Air Frames Engineer" you should know this.
ack-ack
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im pretty sure an engineer of anything (aside from engineering new ways to troll) don't use 47 emotes in a post
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im pretty sure an engineer of anything (aside from engineering new ways to troll) don't use 47 emotes in a post
Or at the very least use emoticons that are understandable.
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could you imagne seeing that behind you. Oh my god its gonna eat me !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O
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could you imagne seeing that behind you. Oh my god its gonna eat me !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O
lol Right, it looks like the thing was made to suck plankton :D
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Luigi Stipa came up with a theory that a tubular fuselage gave significant extra thrust to a conventional engine and propeller. His idea was to mount and engine and propeller inside of a fuselage that was a venturi tube and compressed the propeller's airflow and engine exhaust before it exited the duct at the trailing edge of the aircraft. He was applying Bernoulli's principle of fluid movements to make the engine more efficient.
(http://www.things-with-wings.com/ThingsWings/stipa_principle.jpg)
While he showed his idea did increase engine efficiency, the plane had so much drag that any benefits from the design were negated.
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Precursor to modern jets?
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could you imagne seeing that behind you. Oh my god its gonna eat me !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O
A grandma with a walker could have out run it.
ack-ack
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Precursor to modern jets?
Stipa always maintained that the Germans stole his patent when they were developing their jet and rocket technology.
ack-ack
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It was only meant to be a test bed to test Stipa's "intubed propeller" idea. As an "Air Frames Engineer" you should know this.
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yes to the naked eye it looks like what i originaly posted. but Frank Whittle also designed a similar aircraft on a smaller scale to test diffrent types of internal fan compressor's for his jet engine design's. :P :P :P :P
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What the :huh
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The Swedes' first combat jet fighter (the 'Tunnan', which I believe means 'Barrel') was a porker - but that Eytie contraption beats it all ways up.
Wasn't it Glen Curtiss who said 'give me enough power and I'll make a barn door fly'?
:cool:
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looks like a carnival ride :D
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Sweden had a jet-powered version of J21/A21 long before J29 Tunnan flew. It was named J21R
J29 Tunnan had a record-breaking speed of 977km/h (beating the F86 with 27km/h)
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it would definitely be a newbie gunnery target, how could you miss?
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it would definitely be a newbie gunnery target, how could you miss?
You do realize that it wasn't intended to be a manufactured plane and was only a test bed to test a theory, right?
ack-ack
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You do realize that it wasn't intended to be a manufactured plane and was only a test bed to test a theory, right?
ack-ack
Acctually Ack - Ack some of the people in here would miss that EH :lol :rofl
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Acctually Ack - Ack some of the people in here would miss that EH :lol :rofl
90% would probably shoot through the big hole in the center :D
ack-ack
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that would probably be my luck :rock
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apologies to Ack-Ack. Iwas laughing so hard I missed the post about it being a testbed. my bad. :salute
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90% would probably shoot through the big hole in the center :D
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Eye 2 true bud to true :lol :rofl
An if you where flying the Brew you may land up flying through the middle lol lol :rofl :rofl :rofl
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lol that planes a joke haha but id be fun to fly i guess, i bet u cud hover with that plane
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lol that planes a joke haha but id be fun to fly i guess, i bet u cud hover with that plane
Why was the plane a joke?
ack-ack
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Im sure we will all agree on one thing. That is if we never had these weird and funny looking planes we would never be where we are today with aircraft.
Remember since 1930's weird and funny planes have been used to test top secret new design's. Now for instance the chief designer at Mistokian ( MIG ) In Russia in 1944 designed a practically useless plane that only 4 where bought and used to ferry high ranking Officers About Russia. When in actual fact he designed it as a test plane for the wing design of the Mig 15 jet fighter. :) And it was a weird looking plane. I will try to find a photo of it and add it to this post :)
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Imagine how it looked in flight.
(http://www.things-with-wings.com/ThingsWings/stipa_flight.jpg)
The Caproni Stipa image in the first post isn't an original, it's a 3/5 scale flying replica but still would be been cool to see fly.
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hhahhahahahahahahahah holy crap you are kidding me right lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I don't know whether I should say Bump or IN.
Why must nate bring this up? It had it's go around the BBS, let it die... I'm a hypocrite...
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hhahhahahahahahahahah holy crap you are kidding me right lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I honestly don't see what is so funny. Aviation history are full of unusual flying designs intended intended as test beds, this plane isn't any different. If it wasn't for planes like this, aviation would still be in the cradle and wouldn't have advanced as fast as it has.
ack-ack
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Nate's on a bumping spree.
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Nate's on a bumping spree.
I should give him this then
(http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/phatzo/bump.jpg)
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Im sure we will all agree on one thing. That is if we never had these weird and funny looking planes we would never be where we are today with aircraft.
Remember since 1930's weird and funny planes have been used to test top secret new design's. Now for instance the chief designer at Mistokian ( MIG ) In Russia in 1944 designed a practically useless plane that only 4 where bought and used to ferry high ranking Officers About Russia. When in actual fact he designed it as a test plane for the wing design of the Mig 15 jet fighter. :) And it was a weird looking plane. I will try to find a photo of it and add it to this post :)
Are you talking about the Mig8 Prop aircraft? I know it was an experimental that wasn't meant for combat or anything, but I didn't know it was used to do any transport.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Mikoyan-GurevichMiG-8.jpg)
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thats not a plane, its a cup holder with wings duh
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Are you talking about the Mig8 Prop aircraft? I know it was an experimental that wasn't meant for combat or anything, but I didn't know it was used to do any transport.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Mikoyan-GurevichMiG-8.jpg)
yup thats the one thanks :)
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If you're into interesting pre-war/WW2 Italian ducted fan experimentals you'll prolly love this one... it even had an afterburner :
https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/Aircraft/Campini-N1.html (https://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/Aircraft/Campini-N1.html)
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Are you talking about the Mig8 Prop aircraft? I know it was an experimental that wasn't meant for combat or anything, but I didn't know it was used to do any transport.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Mikoyan-GurevichMiG-8.jpg)
i have something to sat DEATH TRALP :bolt:
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That's a giant pasta maker from Lydia's Italian kitchen.
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