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Title: My new RC
Post by: Sol75 on June 27, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
This this is pretty darned cool, not that big,(about 4 feet long)Not all that fast (maxes out @ 100mph ish) But how cool.. Very rare in the RC world..an F-14 Tomcat!

This is powered by dual Electric ducted fans, turning approx 55,000 rpm.. painted up in Black Bunny colors...

and... It has FUNCTIONAL in-flight swing wings!!!

Pics:

(http://photos.bravenet.com/389/645/485/AC269AB8D5.jpg)
(http://photos.bravenet.com/389/645/485/6123058604.jpg)
(http://photos.bravenet.com/389/645/485/172688370F.jpg)

Someday, when I can talk my wife out of another 5 grand for an engine, I want to do a larger turbine version..but for now, I got my fix on my favorite aircraft of all time!

Sol
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 27, 2010, 04:49:38 PM
So when you slow down do the wings actually spread out and vice versa if you floor it?
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: Sol75 on June 27, 2010, 04:53:25 PM
In theory I could mix the swing wing to the throttle on my radio, But I have it setup on a 3 position switch, so I can set it to full extended, mid, and full delta.  I could also put it on an analog switch, but this method is easier.. basically I put it on the same funciton on my radio as the "flaps" so when i throw the flap switch to the 3 positions, it sets the wings accordingly.

Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 27, 2010, 04:55:00 PM
Very cool. Is it possible you could adapt it so that It actually changes depending on how much throttle you have?

Have you asked around? I mean?  Seems I read something somewhere that this really huge RC company was creating a type of control modification that would allow it... then again, my memory is horrible.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: AAJagerX on June 27, 2010, 04:55:51 PM
Sweet!   :aok
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: Sol75 on June 27, 2010, 05:08:39 PM
i could easily do that with my radio, I have a ton of programmable mixes on this radio... (JR 12x 12 channel DSM2)... but,i did not want it linked that way, I want it manually controllable.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: Stoney on June 27, 2010, 05:25:07 PM
Very cool. Is it possible you could adapt it so that It actually changes depending on how much throttle you have?

Just remember that the wing configuration in the real thing was more related to speed [gross oversimplification] than throttle.  For example, during takeoff, you'd want the wings full forward, but with full power.  So, probably best he keeps it separate from the throttle.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 27, 2010, 06:35:25 PM
Just remember that the wing configuration in the real thing was more related to speed [gross oversimplification] than throttle.  For example, during takeoff, you'd want the wings full forward, but with full power.  So, probably best he keeps it separate from the throttle.

Yeah, but throttle usually controls the speed  :D

But that is cool how you would like it to be manual, nice RC.

I looked at a lot of other RC F-14s, and they are all crap, the wings don't swing and it is partially made out of soft foam  :rolleyes:
This one is excellent, have a blast flying it.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: gpwurzel on June 27, 2010, 07:10:23 PM
Cool bird Sol (yes, I'm jealous). Let us know how your first flight goes bud.


Wurzel
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: AKH on June 27, 2010, 08:58:46 PM
With this on the ipod?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8rZWw9HE7o)

Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: phatzo on June 27, 2010, 10:25:57 PM
At least you cant cut your fingers off with this one.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 27, 2010, 11:29:20 PM
I'm all for playing Kenny Loggins whilst flying an RC F-14  :rofl

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_uq2KcmM6MLM/S1u_tETm4XI/AAAAAAAAAKE/sLbCb8mtTEw/s320/brilliant+guinness.jpg)

Then again, I'm also all for listening to Kenny Loggins WITHOUT flying an RC F-14  :aok
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: CAP1 on June 27, 2010, 11:52:34 PM
cap is jealous.  :aok
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 27, 2010, 11:55:04 PM
cap is jealous.  :aok

Does CAP not have incredibly look-alike F-14 with swing wings?  :D

I gotta admit, no matter how many times I look at that RC bird, it is still a beaut.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on June 28, 2010, 01:51:45 AM
Yeah, but throttle usually controls the speed  :D

You can have 20mph speed, full throttle. What happens if you move your wings to a configuration that has stall speed of 40mph? You crash. The change of speed is not instantaneous, even though in R/C planes the thrust to weight ratio can be staggering.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: Reschke on June 28, 2010, 08:04:39 AM
No noodle envy here....Tomcat envy though...its more than enough to make a man cry!
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 28, 2010, 09:25:19 AM
You can have 20mph speed, full throttle. What happens if you move your wings to a configuration that has stall speed of 40mph? You crash. The change of speed is not instantaneous, even though in R/C planes the thrust to weight ratio can be staggering.

I'm just saying, he could configure it to where depending on how much throttle you have, you can control the swing wings automatically.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: CAP1 on June 28, 2010, 09:31:16 AM
Does CAP not have incredibly look-alike F-14 with swing wings?  :D

I gotta admit, no matter how many times I look at that RC bird, it is still a beaut.

nope....the only jet i have is a foamy T-20.  i haven't flown it yet, because time, seems to keep eluding me.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 28, 2010, 09:36:42 AM
nope....the only jet i have is a foamy T-20.  i haven't flown it yet, because time, seems to keep eluding me.

We got a super cub a while back and after two sorties, we charged up the battery. We couldn't get it to take off. Nothing was wrong, vitals were intact, Ailerons, Flaps, Prop, Motor, you name it. Prop would move at about 1/6 throttle even when supposed to be at full throttle. Thing weighed a ton and was made out of watermelon foam. Couldn't believe we had wasted almost $150 on something that flew twice.  :lol

Better luck than me with your F-14.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: Sol75 on June 28, 2010, 09:53:38 AM
I'm just saying, he could configure it to where depending on how much throttle you have, you can control the swing wings automatically.

I could, but as was stated, for takeoff I would want wings extended, with full throttle.. etc etc.. If i tied the swing wing to throttle position, it would automatically configure based on throttle, but not on speed.
Lets say the model has a stall sped of 25mph with wings extended, and 35 with them retracted... (not actual numbers, these are arbitrary)
if it was tied to throttle, at takeoff I would have full power, with wings swept, thus would need in excess of 35mph to take off.
if the wings are set up the way I have them.. I set them to full extend, give it full throttle, get up to 25mph+ and take off...
then I can retract the gear, and sweep the wings.

Also, keep in mind, the wing sweep on these models is much more for aesthetics and scale functionality than for actual performance.. i as eading somewhere the top speed of this model with wings extended is 95mph, and 100mph with them retracted..
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 28, 2010, 10:34:06 AM
I could, but as was stated, for takeoff I would want wings extended, with full throttle.. etc etc.. If i tied the swing wing to throttle position, it would automatically configure based on throttle, but not on speed.
Lets say the model has a stall sped of 25mph with wings extended, and 35 with them retracted... (not actual numbers, these are arbitrary)
if it was tied to throttle, at takeoff I would have full power, with wings swept, thus would need in excess of 35mph to take off.
if the wings are set up the way I have them.. I set them to full extend, give it full throttle, get up to 25mph+ and take off...
then I can retract the gear, and sweep the wings.

Also, keep in mind, the wing sweep on these models is much more for aesthetics and scale functionality than for actual performance.. i as eading somewhere the top speed of this model with wings extended is 95mph, and 100mph with them retracted..

Notice I said could  :P
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: mtnman on June 28, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Notice I said could  :P

Notice nobody is disagreeing with the fact that it could be done.  Some have come right out and agreed that yes, it could be done.  And it can.  It's simple to do.

They're pointing out why it's a bad idea.
Title: Re: My new RC
Post by: fbWldcat on June 28, 2010, 12:51:18 PM
I could, but as was stated....

I was just referring to this. But yeah, when you finally fly it, let us know how it went.