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Title: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Wayout on June 29, 2010, 09:38:00 AM
John Cleese rant: Soccer vs. Football   :bolt:

http://wimp.com/soccerfootball/ (http://wimp.com/soccerfootball/)

Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Yossarian on June 29, 2010, 09:56:01 AM
Isn't there a love emoticon on here somwhere?
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: RTHolmes on June 29, 2010, 10:21:17 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: oakranger on June 29, 2010, 11:43:18 AM
YES!  He nail it on the spot. When will Americans wake up?
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: 68ZooM on June 29, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
 :rofl yep he was spot on, watching a game on TV totaly blows to watching one in person
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: bustr on June 29, 2010, 12:04:09 PM
British Soccer - 22 prima donna hooligans who happen to be kicking the same ball in two directions.

American Football - The reason why Great Britain still speaks English.
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Jayhawk on June 29, 2010, 12:15:22 PM
Yeah... soccer players sure do a lot of creating.

(http://www.creepygif.com/images/full/620.gif)

 :banana:

Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: FiLtH on June 29, 2010, 09:51:12 PM
  Everyone knows we call it what we do, because it just pisses everyone off.

  Why do they call it "Great" Britain?


  j/k Brits I luv ya!
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: RTHolmes on June 29, 2010, 10:22:14 PM
its called great britain simply because its the largest of the british isles, the other large one used to be known as little britain and is now known as ireland.
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: lyric1 on June 29, 2010, 11:58:37 PM
American English? Who cares this is how you get it done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEpKcIBbprQ
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: oakranger on June 30, 2010, 12:33:17 AM
American English? Who cares this is how you get it done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEpKcIBbprQ

lol.  That sport is wrestling (with the tight outfit they have) and American football (hard tackles) put together.
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AKH on June 30, 2010, 07:03:05 AM
John Cleese rant: Soccer vs. Football

Did you learn nothing?  It's football vs. American 'football'.
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AKH on June 30, 2010, 07:07:17 AM
British Soccer - 22 prima donna hooligans who happen to be kicking the same ball in two directions.

American Football - The reason why Great Britain still speaks English.

Comments typical of a toe-rag. Hurrah for you!
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: RTHolmes on June 30, 2010, 07:27:47 AM
yeah amazing isnt it.

you would think given the context of AH and the number of times that BoB events, scenarios, snapshots etc have been run that people would at least know the dates of the BoB and USA's entry into WWII  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: FiLtH on June 30, 2010, 07:47:19 AM
 Where does the term toe-rag come from?


   BTW lets keep it civil...we're still the best friends we have in this ugly world. :)
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Shuffler on June 30, 2010, 12:36:23 PM
Football vs Soccer


Fixed!
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: SEraider on June 30, 2010, 12:41:29 PM
Classic from John Cleese.

It makes sense for the name of football (American) to be changed to Gridiron.
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AAJagerX on June 30, 2010, 01:23:33 PM
IIRC, the name for American "football" was due to the length of the ball. 
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Babalonian on June 30, 2010, 02:05:59 PM
IIRC, the name for American "football" was due to the length of the ball. 

11" =/= 12"
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AAJagerX on June 30, 2010, 09:56:49 PM
11" =/= 12"

It's not measured by direct height.  Take a flexible tape and measure again tip to tip. 
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: SEraider on July 01, 2010, 06:48:32 PM
http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/news/its-football-to-you-soccer-to-me--fbintl_ro-soccervsfootball070110.html

Bloody English don't even know their own history of "Soccer."
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Flipperk on July 01, 2010, 11:40:54 PM
Actually American Football is more closely related to it's more violent counterpart, Rugby.


In real terms American Football should be called, Wussified Rugby!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0dH5-2Yqmw
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: phatzo on July 02, 2010, 12:14:27 AM
Actually American Football is more closely related to it's more violent counterpart, Rugby.


In real terms American Football should be called, Wussified Rugby!
I thought the USA would get right into a game like Rugby League, I'm really surprised it hasn't caught on.
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: CAP1 on July 02, 2010, 07:59:32 AM
John Cleese rant: Soccer vs. Football   :bolt:

http://wimp.com/soccerfootball/ (http://wimp.com/soccerfootball/)



he's got a point ya know
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AKH on July 02, 2010, 09:12:42 AM
Bloody English don't even know their own history of "Soccer."

An excellent piece of research from the Yahoo sports hack.  :lol

Look up the Latin word 'soccus'.

(http://www.gavinrymill.com/images/socceries.gif)
Note the 'Castle soceries'?

The term does indeed precede 'football'. In the spirit of fairness, we'd be happy to oblige you and refer to football as soccer if you reciprocate and refer to your football as 'American rules rugby' and to baseball as rounders.  We are also prepared to refer to netball as 'women's basketball'.

I trust that this is satisfactory.  :aok
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: mechanic on July 02, 2010, 09:14:37 AM
Where does the term toe-rag come from?


  



Two versions I have heard and both refer to being a rascal and/or a vagrant. The first is that 'toe-rag' refers to the rags of cloth worn around a vagrants feet and was originaly coined as an insult or derogatory name. The second refers to the grubby children that would shine your shoes in the street with their 'toe-rag' whilst probably also robbing you. More affectionate name than insult in this context but essentially the same meaning. The modern use of the term has moved onto to being a friendly way of calling someone a bit of a dirty rascal.



Actually American Football is more closely related to it's more violent counterpart, Rugby.
In real terms American Football should be called, Wussified Rugby!

 :lol  :aok


I thought the USA would get right into a game like Rugby League, I'm really surprised it hasn't caught on.

League sucks, Union all the way!  :D

Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: SEraider on July 02, 2010, 11:07:50 AM
An excellent piece of research from the Yahoo sports hack.  :lol

Look up the Latin word 'soccus'.

(http://www.gavinrymill.com/images/socceries.gif)
Note the 'Castle soceries'?

The term does indeed precede 'football'. In the spirit of fairness, we'd be happy to oblige you and refer to football as soccer if you reciprocate and refer to your football as 'American rules rugby' and to baseball as rounders.  We are also prepared to refer to netball as 'women's basketball'.

I trust that this is satisfactory.  :aok

Hey, I never advocated a change to football from soccer.  I am just saying that according to the yahoo story, it is ironic that America is being lectured of why the name soccer should not be.  :O
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: phatzo on July 02, 2010, 08:29:53 PM




League sucks, Union all the way!  :D


Can you imagine trying to explain the rules to them.  :bolt:
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: mechanic on July 02, 2010, 11:11:06 PM
i dont even know them all  :noid
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: RTHolmes on July 03, 2010, 04:46:34 AM
the word football predates soccer by about 500 years years, even shakespeare uses it. :)
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Angus on July 03, 2010, 01:14:29 PM
...And Rugby...that would even be older than American "Football"?
Football is the name.
Anyway, for the American "Football" fans, watch the real ones of rugger....errrr...Rugby....:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqnimvUMCAk

Meet up with those guys :D

Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AKH on July 03, 2010, 01:53:25 PM
The first recorded use of the term was in 1424: 'The King forbiddes that na man play at the fut ball under the payne of 4d.'
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: Wayout on July 03, 2010, 03:51:22 PM
...And Rugby...that would even be older than American "Football"?
Football is the name.
Anyway, for the American "Football" fans, watch the real ones of rugger....errrr...Rugby....:

Meet up with those guys :D

We have this in America only we call it Line Dancing. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWRWQQ9NOO0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWRWQQ9NOO0)

Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: RTHolmes on July 03, 2010, 05:07:27 PM
The first recorded use of the term was in 1424: 'The King forbiddes that na man play at the fut ball under the payne of 4d.'

yeah footy was illegal - iirc because we were expected to be practicing with our longbows in our spare time :D
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: TinmanX on July 03, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
Amazing! You managed to deduce a word in the English language originated in, of all places, England! Well done!
Title: Re: John Cleese: Soccer vs. Football
Post by: AKH on July 03, 2010, 07:21:32 PM
Why don't you deduce the origin of cornhole?  On second thoughts, don't bother, since it's pretty obvious.

Fun this sarcasm, isn't it?