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Title: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 29, 2010, 03:22:07 PM
I wish that there was a command to send bomber drones back to base safely.

I fly the Boston III, and after I bomb, I like to dogfight, and I think it would be a lot easier to send the drones back to base while I stick around and fight, because the leash they are on now is so short I cannot even do an immelman without them popping, let alone hard turn fights with fighters. Also I wish for a Boston III update.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Jayhawk on June 29, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
No way, for so many reasons.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: fbWldcat on June 29, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
If you would like a medium alt turn fight in a brick, may I present to you...

(http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/ww2-fighter-planes/republic-p-47-thunderbolt.jpg)

You fly the drones there, you fly them back. There is a reason you can also switch to decide whether or not to bring drones from the hangar. And the reason the drones don't fly with you so well is because they are bombers, not fighters.

May I suggest the A-20 or B-25 as your new toy?
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Spikes on June 29, 2010, 03:46:41 PM
No. Up an A20 or don't bring drones.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 29, 2010, 03:54:30 PM
If you would like a medium alt turn fight in a brick, may I present to you...

(http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/ww2-fighter-planes/republic-p-47-thunderbolt.jpg)

You fly the drones there, you fly them back. There is a reason you can also switch to decide whether or not to bring drones from the hangar. And the reason the drones don't fly with you so well is because they are bombers, not fighters.

May I suggest the A-20 or B-25 as your new toy?
No. Up an A20 or don't bring drones.
No. I want to try and give the Boston III some use, but it just doesn't have enough bomb load to be efficient by itself, it needs the drones to bomb, and it would just be a waist of time only lifting a single to dogfight. Maybe HTC can make an exception with the Boston III.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Beefcake on June 29, 2010, 03:59:38 PM
I can understand your request, however, I can also foresee massive problems and potential griefing mechanics coming into play here. The best option is to simply take a single aircraft or ditch the drones after you've completed bombing.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 29, 2010, 04:02:28 PM
I can understand your request, however, I can also foresee massive problems and potential griefing mechanics coming into play here. The best option is to simply take a single aircraft or ditch the drones after you've completed bombing.

Do you mean problems coding it or problems with it being abused? As of now I do just ditch the drones, but I don't appreciate giving a random person two kills.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: jolly22 on June 29, 2010, 04:15:30 PM
obviously you know me now, so im not random ;) ill take the free kills :D
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: morfiend on June 29, 2010, 04:59:25 PM
 You do understand that unless you've been shot and hit the drones popping only give "proxy" kills and award no points.

 So someone gets their name in lights for those drones but big deal,personally I'd be embarassed from landing those proxies but thats just me.

   :salute
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 29, 2010, 05:22:27 PM
You do understand that unless you've been shot and hit the drones popping only give "proxy" kills and award no points.

 So someone gets their name in lights for those drones but big deal,personally I'd be embarassed from landing those proxies but thats just me.

   :salute

Whenever I give someone two proxy kills it really burns me to see them go land them just for the name in lights.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: lyric1 on June 29, 2010, 06:28:41 PM
At one point you could do your run & return to base & rearm. Then you could take off with that one plane & the other two would still be sitting there when you got back. Not sure what would happen if your single aircraft was shot down :headscratch: Maybe back to the tower or back to one of your awaiting drones maybe?

I don't think you can do this now though.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 29, 2010, 08:32:33 PM
At one point you could do your run & return to base & rearm. Then you could take off with that one plane & the other two would still be sitting there when you got back. Not sure what would happen if your single aircraft was shot down :headscratch: Maybe back to the tower or back to one of your awaiting drones maybe?

I don't think you can do this now though.

Not sure about that. But even if possible, I would have to RTB with the drones and take off again, which would consume time.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: lyric1 on June 29, 2010, 08:37:58 PM
I don't think your going to get what your asking for. But that is OK it is a wish forum so wish away.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 29, 2010, 09:19:10 PM
I would also like the A20G to have drones, but I think that is pushing too far.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: fbWldcat on June 29, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
I would also like the A20G to have drones, but I think that is pushing too far.

A-20 with drones = The Boston and formation.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: lyric1 on June 29, 2010, 11:47:15 PM
I would also like the A20G to have drones, but I think that is pushing too far.
Some G's may have had some field modifications done were this is possible. Russians played around a lot with their Havoc's.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: AWwrgwy on June 30, 2010, 12:23:28 AM
At one point you could do your run & return to base & rearm. Then you could take off with that one plane & the other two would still be sitting there when you got back. Not sure what would happen if your single aircraft was shot down :headscratch: Maybe back to the tower or back to one of your awaiting drones maybe?

I don't think you can do this now though.

Doesn't work.  They "pop" just like when they get out of range when you're flying.  I did it with B-26s one night for the exact reason the OP asks.  That and ord was down where I landed.

Rearmed.  Took off.  Flew around and landed and drones were gone when I got back and I never got the "*** has shot you down" message.  So, they didn't get shot.


Not sure about that. But even if possible, I would have to RTB with the drones and take off again, which would consume time.
Not sure about that. But even if possible, I would have to RTB with the drones and take off again, which would consume time.

Ahhhh.  The old "Instant Gratification" argument.   :rolleyes:



wrongway
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on June 30, 2010, 01:37:31 AM
A-20 with drones = The Boston and formation.

A-20 has 50 cals and more bombs.
Ahhhh.  The old "Instant Gratification" argument.   :rolleyes:

Instant Gratification? No I just don't want to go all the way back to base, land, take off again and fly back out to were I was because it is time consuming, perhaps a good 15 minutes depending on the target. I just want to hit a button and watch the drones fly off to RTB so I won't have to worry about them anymore.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: BrownBaron on June 30, 2010, 03:54:14 AM
A-20 has 50 cals and more bombs.
Instant Gratification? No I just don't want to go all the way back to base, land, take off again and fly back out to were I was because it is time consuming, perhaps a good 15 minutes depending on the target. I just want to hit a button and watch the drones fly off to RTB so I won't have to worry about them anymore.

Formations of bombers do not dogfight. If you want to dogfight, don't take them. If you want to bomb, take them. If you don't want anyone to get the proxies, head in the opposite direction of the fight for 6K, look around, and ditch them.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Greziz on June 30, 2010, 04:06:03 AM
I hear you op would be a cool idea. I approve they just don't approve cause they like their 2 free proxies would be nifty for the drones to just go home on auto pilot or something besides no reason they couldn't be shot down on rtb.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: RTHolmes on June 30, 2010, 04:16:31 AM
A20 doesnt and shouldnt have drones because its not a level bomber - no bombsite.


the leash they are on now is so short I cannot even do an immelman without them popping, let alone hard turn fights with fighters.

a flight of 3 bombers in tight formation executing a formation immelman? cmon really ...


Whenever I give someone two proxy kills it really burns me to see them go land them just for the name in lights.

So someone gets their name in lights for those drones but big deal,personally I'd be embarassed from landing those proxies but thats just me.

I'll take the proxies and land em quite happily, almost makes up for the times I've climbed to 25K+ to intercept buffs only to see them bail as soon as I get within icon range. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: fbWldcat on June 30, 2010, 07:23:20 AM
A-20 has 50 cals and more bombs.


Then the A-20, being superior in bomb load, with some pretty good ammunition, is the logical choice. A-20 is basically a Boston and vice versa.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: 321BAR on June 30, 2010, 07:29:30 AM
A-20 with drones = The Boston and formation.
A20s got wep and a heavier loadout wldcat :aok the boston and the A20 are the big fat fighters of the bombers.
And clone, i dont get how you have problems holding your drones in a dogfight anyways. I used 3 B25Cs and pulled some wild maneuvers, killed 2 cons, and i kept my drones... are bostons any different?
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: fbWldcat on June 30, 2010, 07:53:17 AM
are bostons any different?

I think Bostons suck, don't they? I always fly the JU-88 and Stuka so nobody can comment on how I probably fly the noob bombers.  :D
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: RTHolmes on June 30, 2010, 08:10:26 AM
small bomb loadout and poor defensive armament but up to 17k the fastest, best climbing unperked buffs ingame :aok
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: fbWldcat on June 30, 2010, 08:18:12 AM
small bomb loadout and poor defensive armament but up to 17k the fastest, best climbing unperked buffs ingame :aok

Yes, but I do love my Ju-88. How about a happy medium... B-26?
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: lyric1 on June 30, 2010, 09:11:06 PM
a flight of 3 bombers in tight formation executing a formation immelman? cmon really ...


Plenty do it in game.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: guncrasher on June 30, 2010, 11:33:53 PM
Plenty do it in game.

yup this game is so historically accurate, lots of buffs did loops and bomb upside down in the war, and this wont change.  but add one extra lb of weight to a fighter and lots of people will be complaining about how inaccurate it is.

semp
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on July 01, 2010, 01:58:14 AM
A20 doesnt and shouldnt have drones because its not a level bomber - no bombsite.
B-25C strafer package has drones but no bomb sight. I'm not positive but I bet there was a type of A20 that had a bomb sight that they could add in as a new gun package.
a flight of 3 bombers in tight formation executing a formation immelman? cmon really ...

People do it regularly in Lancasters and the American heavy bombers. I think it is silly that the Boston III and B25C has the same drone leash as the heavy bombers.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on July 01, 2010, 02:00:43 AM
I think Bostons suck, don't they? I always fly the JU-88 and Stuka so nobody can comment on how I probably fly the noob bombers.  :D
It can turn fight with the best of them.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: RTHolmes on July 01, 2010, 02:38:33 AM
I agree with you on both points - the B25C strafer shouldnt have formations enabled (like 25H) and the heavies should lose their drones when doing maneuvers like immelmanns. :)
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: BrownBaron on July 01, 2010, 05:02:20 AM
People do it regularly in Lancasters and the American heavy bombers. I think it is silly that the Boston III and B25C has the same drone leash as the heavy bombers.

If it can be done with heavy lancs, why can't you do it with your Bostons?
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: RTHolmes on July 01, 2010, 05:08:03 AM
it shouldnt be possible in either ...
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: BrownBaron on July 01, 2010, 05:35:25 AM
it shouldnt be possible in either ...

I agree, but I am pointing out theself-contradiction.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on July 01, 2010, 08:27:26 AM
If it can be done with heavy lancs, why can't you do it with your Bostons?

Are you paying attention? I have stated it three times now, the leash on the Boston III is too short, they pop every time such a maneuver is pulled.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: BrownBaron on July 01, 2010, 08:51:27 AM
Are you paying attention? I have stated it three times now, the leash on the Boston III is too short, they pop every time such a maneuver is pulled.

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People do it regularly in Lancasters and the American heavy bombers.

Have you been paying attention?

You say the leashes are equal length, yet less agile heavy bombers can pull a mauever while keeping in formation that your light more agilr buffs can not?

I can not take you seriously if you present evidence that contradicts your original statements.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Clone155 on July 01, 2010, 09:38:34 AM
Have you been paying attention?

You say the leashes are equal length, yet less agile heavy bombers can pull a mauever while keeping in formation that your light more agilr buffs can not?

I can not take you seriously if you present evidence that contradicts your original statements.

I will explain it better then. The Boston III is so fast and maneuverable, that if a maneuver like an immelman is pulled the plane goes up and over so fast that the drones cannot keep up, and when they finally do make it up and over they explode because of the "leash" they are on is so short that they cannot keep up. To pull this maneuver off successfully I would need to either slow down, which is not a good thing to do in a medium bomber, or not do it at all. Some might say that the plane was not meant to pull such extreme maneuvers, and I can comply with that. But I also like to dogfight with the Boston III after I had made my bomb run, and the drones will not keep up with me on the sharp turns. Remember, this wish is not for a longer leash (although that would be appreciated), but for an RTB button for the drones.
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: hitech on July 01, 2010, 11:07:10 AM
You do understand that unless you've been shot and hit the drones popping only give "proxy" kills and award no points.

 So someone gets their name in lights for those drones but big deal,personally I'd be embarassed from landing those proxies but thats just me.

   :salute

The drones do not award a kill?
If so that is a bug.


HiTech
Title: Re: RTB option
Post by: Lusche on July 01, 2010, 11:09:06 AM
The drones do not award a kill?

They do. I think he's referring to perk points, of wich you get none if it's just a proxy (=not  pinged previously)

But for all score stuff, the system works as it should.