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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: xtyger on June 29, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
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Speaking of maps, many of us in Midwar would really like to see the Mesa and Mesa View maps gotten rid of. Could you please, please, please replace those maps with something else? Some have suggested replacing them with some older maps we don't use anymore. Mindanao? :furious
Sound off fellow Midwarriors!
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As a MW player I would say keep them but add a few more in the rotation.
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Id like to add one of the big maps to MW and see if the Nits could roll all the undefended bases in record time... :rofl
On a serious note what can be done to populate MW with more players? Is it the plane set that keeps players out?
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It is a paradox. Numbers are not in MW because MW does not have numbers.
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It is a paradox. Numbers are not in MW because MW does not have numbers.
QFT
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It is a paradox. Numbers are not in MW because MW does not have numbers.
agreed. i'd show up more often if it had the numbers
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I was thinking the same thing when I logged on tonight and saw that map again. :huh
Also... I too would like to see bigger numbers in MW. MW has a great group of regular players on ALL sides... but bigger numbers would be nice. xtigers in flight status reports are quite entertaining! :aok
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Id like to add one of the big maps to MW and see if the Nits could roll all the undefended bases in record time... :rofl
The main reason I pretty much permanently left Late War was because of the large maps that seemed to take over the arena.
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Mindanao? :furious
Sound off fellow Midwarriors!
Great map but was a bit skewed towards the country that controlled the northwest sectors.
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Great map but was a bit skewed towards the country that controlled the northwest sectors.
Skewed only in the sense that that was the hardest part of the map to reset ... they didn't always win.
The country that controlled the north/northeast part of the map was usually the winner, which left the country in the south always fighting a 2 front war.
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On a serious note what can be done to populate MW with more players? Is it the plane set that keeps players out?
It is the lack of numerous ultra fast uber cannon armed birds. The people flock to LW because of the fast food reflex. In other words, MW is more difficult, takes longer to get a fix = less population. Of course there are other lessor reasons , folks flocking to where the larger herd is, etc etc. But basically, High speed + mass cannon.
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It is the lack of numerous ultra fast uber cannon armed birds. The people flock to LW because of the fast food reflex. In other words, MW is more difficult, takes longer to get a fix = less population. Of course there are other lessor reasons , folks flocking to where the larger herd is, etc etc. But basically, High speed + mass cannon.
yep
same reason i don't play in early war, it is boring, the rides are fun for a bit but they fizzle out pretty quick, no good gv's to speak of unless you want to plink off another t-34 for an hour or so!
mid war offers a chance to get away from a lot of the late war planes while still offering a pretty good selection of stuff to play with, I have half a chance in my d-11 in there!
some new maps would be nice and more players would be great to!
I have asked before if we could move the timeline up six months or so in mid but most say no, this would attract some more players but might also change the balance of the the planeset to much!
I also think early war should be re done, as a progressive war arena, starting out in the early days of the war and progressing threw the entire war till all planes where available at then end, then reset it every month and start over, this would add a new aspect were you could fly one type of plane set threw the whole tour if you wanted to, or you could just fly the planes you like when they come up, kind of like a mini tour of duty! score would be a little more important here and offer a chance to specialize in areas of the game not really allowed in the main arena's since you could have a p-38 ace instead of just, the best in fighters! the jug drivers could start out in the d-11 and progress all the way threw to the n and m, plenty of german fighters to do this in as well!
it would be a good way to understand more aspects of why and when things became available during the war and how they affected it!
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It is the lack of numerous ultra fast uber cannon armed birds. The people flock to LW because of the fast food reflex. In other words, MW is more difficult, takes longer to get a fix = less population. Of course there are other lessor reasons , folks flocking to where the larger herd is, etc etc. But basically, High speed + mass cannon.
So what your saying is the MW arena takes more skill to play in and that keeps players out....
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I also think early war should be re done, as a progressive war arena, starting out in the early days of the war and progressing threw the entire war till all planes where available at then end, then reset it every month and start over, this would add a new aspect were you could fly one type of plane set threw the whole tour if you wanted to, or you could just fly the planes you like when they come up, kind of like a mini tour of duty! score would be a little more important here and offer a chance to specialize in areas of the game not really allowed in the main arena's since you could have a p-38 ace instead of just, the best in fighters! the jug drivers could start out in the d-11 and progress all the way threw to the n and m, plenty of german fighters to do this in as well!
it would be a good way to understand more aspects of why and when things became available during the war and how they affected it!
That would be a lot of fun.... But then strats would have to be redone as well. Make them more important to defend. As it is now the only reason anyone thinks of defending them is the chance for "easy bomber kills" There have been some really good threads about new strats recently and I hope HTC seriously looks into it.
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That would be a lot of fun.... But then strats would have to be redone as well. Make them more important to defend. As it is now the only reason anyone thinks of defending them is the chance for "easy bomber kills" There have been some really good threads about new strats recently and I hope HTC seriously looks into it.
thanks,,, i have been thinking about this for more than a year, I have not figured out exactly how to redo the strats to make it work better, maybe just better defended by ack, and or some spawns into the strats to defend them by ground!
the one thing i hate about the new strat system is the lack of ability to get to them on the ground! maybe the old style strats with a better air defense system that had to be taken out before it could be porked
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It is a paradox. Numbers are not in MW because MW does not have numbers.
agreed. i'd show up more often if it had the numbers
Yep, sheep mentality. Not directed at you, 321BAR...
People just don't want to be leaders - just followers. If more people would just go, because it's something different, then the other lemmings will say "hey, there's lots of people in (insert arena name), maybe I'll go see what's going on."
But then again, it's also the "I have to fly my uber fast cannon-laden bird in a horde, or I won't fly at all" kind of people that perpetuates the low numbers in other arenas. Oh well, we all pay to play where and how we want. Too bad so many are unwilling or unable to try new things.
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So what your saying is the MW arena takes more skill to play in and that keeps players out....
Not skill as much. More like patience. Need to work harder to be successful in there. Especially when your side is getting rolled by VF15 :)
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How about rotating Titantic Tuesday, Marvelous Midwar, and Easydoesit Earlywar.
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Not skill as much. More like patience. Need to work harder to be successful in there. Especially when your side is getting rolled by VF15 :)
lol
It is funny to me that every mid war thread has to have one who thinks he needs to take a shot at my squadron, we like mid war, we left mid war since so many whined about us, the numbers in there dropped to nothing,
most of those that stayed soon asked us to come back,
i see no good thing that can come from someone picking on another or a group that actually has players in an arena pretty much every day in a thread that complains about not having enough players!
find some friends, help to populate the arena instead of degrading others who play there, heck even tho it was a ho fest, we still had fun just furballing with you guys last night, then you all just left, what are we supposed to do? just sign off till you come back?
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lol
i see no good thing that can come from someone picking on another or a group that actually has players in an arena pretty much every day in a thread that complains about not having enough players!
lol, yes, if Im not fighting VF15 in there I am pretty much fighting no one. Srry, meant it as a compliment :aok
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lol, yes, if Im not fighting VF15 in there I am pretty much fighting no one. Srry, meant it as a compliment :aok
K
sorry I misunderstood! :aok :bolt:
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having VF-15 in the midwar is a necessity. otherwise we wouldnt have anyone to complain about. while i don't always like their tactics, they're always good for a fight and that's what its all about.
Last night JG54 bombed the crap out of 33. next thing we know, Vf-15 is upping like a swarm of hornets. while i did get the snot beat out of me, we had alot of fun.
<S> to VF-15 and all the guys that make the midwar fun. We don't necessarily have the greatest numbers in the arena, but we always have a good time!
PS. I like all the maps, just wish there were some new ones to look forward too.
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having VF-15 in the midwar is a necessity. otherwise we wouldnt have anyone to complain about. while i don't always like their tactics, they're always good for a fight and that's what its all about.
Last night JG54 bombed the crap out of 33. next thing we know, Vf-15 is upping like a swarm of hornets. while i did get the snot beat out of me, we had alot of fun.
<S> to VF-15 and all the guys that make the midwar fun. We don't necessarily have the greatest numbers in the arena, but we always have a good time!
PS. I like all the maps, just wish there were some new ones to look forward too.
+1 on more maps!!! and <<S>>
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lol
It is funny to me that every mid war thread has to have one who thinks he needs to take a shot at my squadron, we like mid war, we left mid war since so many whined about us, the numbers in there dropped to nothing,
most of those that stayed soon asked us to come back,
i see no good thing that can come from someone picking on another or a group that actually has players in an arena pretty much every day in a thread that complains about not having enough players!
find some friends, help to populate the arena instead of degrading others who play there, heck even tho it was a ho fest, we still had fun just furballing with you guys last night, then you all just left, what are we supposed to do? just sign off till you come back?
Nothing against you personally but your squad is the reason i hardly go in there anymore and why a lot of MW players have been in the LW arenas recently. When i log on and see 15 nits to 5 bish and 12 of the nits are VF15 i either hit rook only or just switch to LW. Its your take the base at all costs that turns me off personally. Not my style of play and its really not fun for me to play against it. Ive just learned to move on and have tried different things. I should actually thank you guys cause im having more fun in LW now then I ever had in MW. I only come back to MW to play with certain BISH that i am friends with. <S>
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I can honestly say that there isnt a single player in MW that I dont enjoy fighting against. Sure... sometimes I dont like what I hear on "all" channel, but I just hit squelch and keep flying. I dont complain when I get HO'ed, or vulched, or picked... I get a new bird and go right back up.
And Yeager is correct, MW is a very different kind of arena. It isnt that it takes more skill to fly there, but most of the time you cant take off and be in a fight in under 3 minutes like you can in late war. You may have to fly a sector or two to get back into the fight that you just got knocked out of, and while the same is true in LW, in MW there may not be another fight you can just hop to.
But... to get back to the MAP issue... As I stated before, yes... we need new maps. Or new base layouts, or a new strat system... something. You hear the same thing coming form the LW arenas too. I wouldnt even mind if the map reset on its own every 24 hours, and when the war is "won" on a map, all that happens is the colors rearrange.
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The auto change every 24 sounds like a good idea.
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See Rule #4
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LW is a totally different arena and style of game play. I started out just trying to stay up as long as i could before getting picked.... I still will usually fight till im outa amo or die, landing is over rated. MW used to be more about using skill and style taking bases. Point in example: I logged on to the usual, for me anyway, 17 nits ( almost all VF15 ) 3 bish and 7 rooks. Went to the tower of a base that was flashing to find 2 sets of NIT lancs had taken all the hangers down along with 3 heavy fighters a panzer from their field and a goon. In total it took 7 nits to take a Vbase that before i logged on could have only had 2 defenders and they felt the need to take all the hangers down? Now maybe the bish should take that as a compliment, i mean maybe the nits can only take a base if it can't be defended? I played in MW because I enjoyed the use of tactics and style to take bases not the bomb all the hangers down so no one can defend or vulch the runway so the 2 guys that are there to defend cant take off against the 13 guys trying to take the base. Numbers like that might as well go to LW, which is what ive been doing.
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See Rule #4
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BS. I like MidWar.
I do/did too... Just miss the way it used to be is all.
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See Rule #4
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WooHOOOO! for once i wasnt the rule #4 !!!!
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WooHOOOO! for once i wasnt the rule #4 !!!!
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I feel left out then.... ive never had a rule #4 hahahaha!
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Map change every 24hrs does sound like a good idea to me also!
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Yep, sheep mentality. Not directed at you, 321BAR...
no problem...i do run a squad in LW you know though so i dont even know how much i'd be in MW
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why not bring them to MW a few nights a week? The "other country" always says to just find a friend and bring them in. Problem with that is MW is its own dynamic and isnt suited to everyones style of play. In my opinion that is why it has such low numbers. If it were to populate like the LW arenas do it would just be another LW arena with fewer plane options. MW used to be a more strategic minded arena, like I have said before and for the most part when a certain country isnt running the map using LW style of play it still is.
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I change the colors of the sides so it looks like a new map.
Note.... it is a good idea to only make friendly green. ( I speak from experience)
I'll throw this in too..... I have flown in AVA a few times this onth and had an absolute blast. No icons are a bit rough but adds to the fun.
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ya Maps are a long over due here if this is a WW2 based Game we need to have an Arena dedicated to the Pacific Area of the War I have flown all the arenas here and ya late war has some cool maps and all but to be honest with ya I do not think the Pac Planes should not be available in the Ground Only war maps. The scenerio maps are great but for everyday maps here they blow and HTC has such a high Standard on what can be applied here and what can not I personally think it Sucks!!!! ya ya ya ya ya you all think I am just a toejamty bellybutton player with no skills here but I can hold my own and when the same old map keeps showing up the game gets beat dam we pay a good chunk of change to play here and to be honest with you all with todays freaking economy HTC is lucky to still have a good Loyal Following for here but give the Players what they want that is in means to the game. WW1 arena ok but not worth 2 or 3 arenas to waste space. WW2 was the main concept of this game,,, We have the Europe Maps but they are always set in the lovely green weather but we forget about the cold winter months Our Grandparents fought in (except for scenerio maps) but we are forgetting the Africa Part of the War and crap like that. You want to make this Game a True WW2 based game then use all the terrains we fought in the Messa maps and all are not dessert like, the other maps only bring in a small fraction of what the terrain was like. I have never seen so many maps with so many high vallies and hills then this game Come On HTC Let your Players feed ya more info for making the game better and put our money to good use. I know for a fact server cost an crap like that are not to much to run a game like this, I know HTC need to make some what of a profit from all off us but if he wants to keep his game on Top which it already is then he needs to sink the money in to keep his players happy but we all know that will never happen.
Come on it is Time for a Drastic Game overhall here and Bring back the night time Maps!!!!!! that really shows the strong players here and to really see if they can fight in the dark like when this game first launched !!!!!!
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Someone please slap his English teacher.
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ya Maps are a long over due here if this is a WW2 based Game we need to have an Arena dedicated to the Pacific Area of the War I have flown all the arenas here and ya late war has some cool maps and all but to be honest with ya I do not think the Pac Planes should not be available in the Ground Only war maps. The scenerio maps are great but for everyday maps here they blow and HTC has such a high Standard on what can be applied here and what can not I personally think it Sucks!!!! ya ya ya ya ya you all think I am just a toejamty bellybutton player with no skills here but I can hold my own and when the same old map keeps showing up the game gets beat dam we pay a good chunk of change to play here and to be honest with you all with todays freaking economy HTC is lucky to still have a good Loyal Following for here but give the Players what they want that is in means to the game. WW1 arena ok but not worth 2 or 3 arenas to waste space. WW2 was the main concept of this game,,, We have the Europe Maps but they are always set in the lovely green weather but we forget about the cold winter months Our Grandparents fought in (except for scenerio maps) but we are forgetting the Africa Part of the War and crap like that. You want to make this Game a True WW2 based game then use all the terrains we fought in the Messa maps and all are not dessert like, the other maps only bring in a small fraction of what the terrain was like. I have never seen so many maps with so many high vallies and hills then this game Come On HTC Let your Players feed ya more info for making the game better and put our money to good use. I know for a fact server cost an crap like that are not to much to run a game like this, I know HTC need to make some what of a profit from all off us but if he wants to keep his game on Top which it already is then he needs to sink the money in to keep his players happy but we all know that will never happen.
Come on it is Time for a Drastic Game overhall here and Bring back the night time Maps!!!!!! that really shows the strong players here and to really see if they can fight in the dark like when this game first launched !!!!!!
In a nutshell... I think he wants more maps.
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[quote author=WWhiskey link=topic=291858.msg3715493#msg3715493 date=1277909115
I also think early war should be re done, as a progressive war arena, starting out in the early days of the war and progressing threw the entire war till all planes where available at then end, then reset it every month and start over, this would add a new aspect were you could fly one type of plane set threw the whole tour if you wanted to, or you could just fly the planes you like when they come up, kind of like a mini tour of duty! score would be a little more important here and offer a chance to specialize in areas of the game not really allowed in the main arena's since you could have a p-38 ace instead of just, the best in fighters! the jug drivers could start out in the d-11 and progress all the way threw to the n and m, plenty of german fighters to do this in as well!
it would be a good way to understand more aspects of why and when things became available during the war and how they affected it!
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I like that idea Whiskey! +1 :aok
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I would leave EW alone but add a progressive arena maybe
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you guys know the history of Rolling Plane Set (aka RPS) ?
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I would leave EW alone but add a progressive arena maybe
yes I thought about it and it would not be fair to change early war into this arena, instead create a new one maybe! :airplane:
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You can roll with the arenas guys. Same thing.
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Come on it is Time for a Drastic Game overhall here and Bring back the night time Maps!!!!!! that really shows the strong players here and to really see if they can fight in the dark like when this game first launched !!!!!!
Night is an arena settings and not dependent on the map. Remember when we did have night time, it was the quickest way to empty out the arena.
ack-ack
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Night is an arena settings and not dependent on the map. Remember when we did have night time, it was the quickest way to empty out the arena.
ack-ack
thank the heavens the days of throwing blankets over the windows so you could see at night are gone lol
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True ACK ACK but night time flying was always a blast I went on a Drunken Rage last night with these Post but it is true we do need some new maps or something :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :devil :devil :devil :devil :devil :devil
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Bring back the night time Maps!!!!!! that really shows the strong players here and to really see if they can fight in the dark like when this game first launched !!!!!!
:airplane: Yes bring back night time and more weather, love flying IFR.