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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Stalwart on July 02, 2010, 11:45:06 PM
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Holy Cow:
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/090601_ufo_sightings_liberty_county (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/090601_ufo_sightings_liberty_county)
From this report, it's clear they don't really know what it was. Could have been an idiot with fireworks, or a weapon, or something in-between.
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if it was a missle, question is who has it, how they got it, and how they got it in America.
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if it was a missle, question is who has it, how they got it, and how they got it in America.
an object thrown or projected usually so as to strike something at a distance
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If a guy can walk across the border with a backpack full of dope, a rocket launcher slung over his shoulder shouldn't be that much of a problem either.
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If a guy can walk across the border with a backpack full of dope, a rocket launcher slung over his shoulder shouldn't be that much of a problem either.
But that would all depends on what kind of rocket that was used.
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I didn't hear about this one, I guess that's because I haven't seen the news lately. Pretty scarey though.
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Above 12,000 feet ,not fireworks .
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Above 12,000 feet ,not fireworks .
some model rockets can reach pretty damn high. my old physics teacher had a 1:4 Patriot Missile model, the engines were big.
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Above 12,000 feet ,not fireworks .
not even close. i've watched fireworks from a cessna. at 3,000 ft, they were well below me.
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Holy Cow:
http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/090601_ufo_sightings_liberty_county (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news/090601_ufo_sightings_liberty_county)
From this report, it's clear they don't really know what it was. Could have been an idiot with fireworks, or a weapon, or something in-between.
so now what? are they going to outlaw shoulder launched missiles?
oh yea./...they already are. :noid
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If a guy can walk across the border with a backpack full of dope, a rocket launcher slung over his shoulder shouldn't be that much of a problem either.
Drive to the nearest major airport and make jihad, not a big stretch. I would rather this turn out to be a moron with a model rocket.
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Im more inclined to a rocket, then an actual missle. I mean if my intention was to blow one up, I would have been damn near the airport, and a fairly large one to make sure I hit the largest target I could. This sounds more like a backyard rocket, that someone made. Just happened to be coincendence IMHO.
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Sounds like a model rocket incident to me. First of all, target was too small to be a target for terrorist attack (commuter airliner?). Second of all, target was too high to be attacked by MANPOD (Near its max range...motor would have burned out and pilot wouldn't see anything). Thirdly, common sense?
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Im more inclined to a rocket, then an actual missle. I mean if my intention was to blow one up, I would have been damn near the airport, and a fairly large one to make sure I hit the largest target I could. This sounds more like a backyard rocket, that someone made. Just happened to be coincendence IMHO.
It's 40 miles east of the airport. Very stealthy. Who would ever think to look that far away.
All I can think is LIBERTY, Texas --- Fourth of July --- Rocket
Coincidence?
:noid :noid
wrongway
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It's 40 miles east of the airport. Very stealthy. Who would ever think to look that far away.
All I can think is LIBERTY, Texas --- Fourth of July --- Rocket
Coincidence?
:noid :noid
wrongway
I remember when they outlawed the little bottle rockets here because they were "too dangerous". I can buy the equivalent to a clusterbomb on the side of the highway now but none of those damn bottlerockets!!
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I remember when they outlawed the little bottle rockets here because they were "too dangerous". I can buy the equivalent to a clusterbomb on the side of the highway now but none of those damn bottlerockets!!
we used to have "ship to shore" fights with bottle rockets when we were kids. in reality, it was our row boat. :rofl
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We had a few "battles" here and there too. :D
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I am not any sort of expert. But don't shoulder fired missles track the heat signature? Why under the nose? Why did it miss? A small commuter plane would be flying straight and level. Seems a modern shoulder fired missle shouldn't have trouble making a hit.
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if it was a missle, question is who has it, how they got it, and how they got it in America.
if it was a missile, it would have hit the airliner unless it was the world's shoddiest missile ever :rolleyes: if it was a rocket... maybe the guy was a good shot or drunk. by the way, its Fox News guys. Look up a different source please. Fox has a tendency to warp reality to their favor.
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if it was a missile, it would have hit the airliner unless it was the world's shoddiest missile ever :rolleyes: if it was a rocket... maybe the guy was a good shot or drunk. by the way, its Fox News guys. Look up a different source please. Fox has a tendency to warp reality to their favor.
Here we go...
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if it was a missile, it would have hit the airliner unless it was the world's shoddiest missile ever :rolleyes: if it was a rocket... maybe the guy was a good shot or drunk. by the way, its Fox News guys. Look up a different source please. Fox has a tendency to warp reality to their favor.
Which news organizations don't?
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if it was a missile, it would have hit the airliner unless it was the world's shoddiest missile ever :rolleyes: if it was a rocket... maybe the guy was a good shot or drunk. by the way, its Fox News guys. Look up a different source please. Fox has a tendency to warp reality to their favor.
You are aware that not everything manmade works perfectly every time, right? That most definitely
includes weapons, not that I'm saying this was a manpad. Too often Hollywood tends to stretch the bounds
of reality and affects some's perceptions.
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if it was a missile, it would have hit the airliner unless it was the world's shoddiest missile ever :rolleyes: if it was a rocket... maybe the guy was a good shot or drunk. by the way, its Fox News guys. Look up a different source please. Fox has a tendency to warp reality to their favor.
it could've been one of them thar north korean missiles. :noid
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Did anyone notice that this report was posted on Jun 1 2009? This story appears to be old news.
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Did anyone notice that this report was posted on Jun 1 2009? This story appears to be old news.
:rofl :rofl :rofl waiting for someone to say it.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl waiting for someone to say it.
:huh
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Did anyone notice that this report was posted on Jun 1 2009? This story appears to be old news.
Wow i feel all kinds of dumb right now... :confused:
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:huh
I remember when it came on fox news back then, double checked the date and just laughed behind my computer screen.
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I remember when it came on fox news back then, double checked the date and just laughed behind my computer screen.
LOL ok...I hadn't heard this before, but when I was reading the article, I noticed the post date and I was like WTF? :huh
:salute
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Did anyone notice that this report was posted on Jun 1 2009? This story appears to be old news.
:huh
:furious
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Well now that we know the date it would have been nice to know the answer as to what it was.
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if it was a missle, question is who has it, how they got it, and how they got it in America.
You're kidding, right?
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Well now that we know the date it would have been nice to know the answer as to what it was.
+1
wrongway
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There are organization that do have competition. They also certified people build and rockets that can reach 50,000ft
http://www.tripoli.org/Home/tabid/38/Default.aspx (http://www.tripoli.org/Home/tabid/38/Default.aspx)
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nt.
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I remember when they outlawed the little bottle rockets here because they were "too dangerous". I can buy the equivalent to a clusterbomb on the side of the highway now but none of those damn bottlerockets!!
I think it was wooden shingles that did in the bottle rocket, man I loved those as a kid.
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I think it was wooden shingles that did in the bottle rocket, man I loved those as a kid.
Around here both wood shingles, and bottle rockets are illegal.
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I think it was wooden shingles that did in the bottle rocket, man I loved those as a kid.
:huh Which? Bottle rockets or Wooden Shingles? :P
:rofl
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I think it was wooden shingles that did in the bottle rocket, man I loved those as a kid.
I think you're right Shifty. I remember when Plano made people have wood shingles. I guess the ensuing conflagrations made someone stop and think.
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I think you're right Shifty. I remember when Plano made people have wood shingles. I guess the ensuing conflagrations made someone stop and think.
Hmm Plano is my home town, I was involved in a lot of mischief with bottle rockets there as a kid. :lol
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Hmm Plano is my home town, I was involved in a lot of mischief with bottle rockets there as a kid. :lol
You, a mischief?
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Well now that we know the date it would have been nice to know the answer as to what it was.
there must be an FAA report on this by now surely?
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I think it was wooden shingles that did in the bottle rocket, man I loved those as a kid.
I doubt it.
If you look at the history of the bottle rocket and similar devices, and compare it to the history of roof coverings, I think you'll find that rockets and flammable roof coverings have existed and been used at the same time (and in the same places) for several hundred years (maybe even longer).
I'd also think that if the research was done, we'd find wooden shingles have been around longer than flying fireworks. If the shingles did them in, would bottle-rockets have ever been invented?
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We should ask a firemen.
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We should ask a firemen.
I just know the right person to ask. Shifty, can you find out for us.
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If it is a question whether a layman or a student group could crew up and build a missile that reaches some 10 k or be it 30 k, my opinion is....yes.
I'll give you an example of what is easily possible if you have the brains:
Some weeks ago I had a foreign visitor. He had with him a RC aircraft small enough to fit in a car. It was home made.
On the nose there was a camera. The camera could broadcast through a little antenna, so one could view it from the "cockpit" so to say.
The view was transmitted through glasses, and in broad daylight one would need to put something over the head so that the sunlight would not interrupt.
For me, as a "sharer" of one of the glasses (the pilot had the other pair), it was like something of a gadgety Bond-Movie. Totally crazy. The guy took this thing up and buzzed around my cattle, then had to outmaneuveread/outran some birds (in heat they were).
A rocket flying up to a certain alt in no problem. It is being done with as simple a fuel as sugar as a main base. What is scary for me is the possible combination.....an RC can easily do the same interception.
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High power model rocketry commonly exceeds 10K. But I think it would be hard to conceal a large rocket like that. Of course, no one was looking for it until afterwards.
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Declare war on texas?
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So whay do we get if we win? Steers?
Semp
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I doubt it.
If you look at the history of the bottle rocket and similar devices, and compare it to the history of roof coverings, I think you'll find that rockets and flammable roof coverings have existed and been used at the same time (and in the same places) for several hundred years (maybe even longer).
I'd also think that if the research was done, we'd find wooden shingles have been around longer than flying fireworks. If the shingles did them in, would bottle-rockets have ever been invented?
What you say makes sense. However both wooden shingels and fireworks have been around longer than building codes and municipal regulations. When we moved to Plano TX in the summer of 1966 I was about to enter the 3rd grade. The town was very small with a 2A school system. It was just slightly larger than the typical rural Texas farming town. By the time I graduated in the spring of 1977 the community had boomed approaching 100K in population. My graduating class was over 900. During this boom a lot of money moved into the town. Instead of it being the home of your typical North Texas good ole boy it was the home to a lot of professional types that had transplanted from the Northeast. The city became the home to a lot of wealthy people as well who decided how they wanted new houses built and neighborhoods to appear. I have no doubt these very same people decided that bottle rockets were to be banned the very first time one of their million dollars homes went up in flames.They had the wealth and power to make it so. The Plano of today and the Plano I spent my childhood in are two complete different communities. The wooden shingels came along after I left and were a decision based on pleasing the eye more than function. The old tar shingles like the house I grew up in didn't fit the new wealthy Plano. They didn't catch fire from a stray bottle rocket either though.
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It sounds like they didn't like bottle rockets/fireworks, and needed an excuse to get them banned.
It sounds like legislature did in the bottle-rockets. And people probably actually voted for the legislators.
They could have just as easily banned the wooden shingles, after all... Or treated the wooden shingles to make them fire retardant. Or made it law to use fire retardant roof coverings.
After all, there are many ways for a dwelling to catch fire, and bottle rockets are probably responsible for a comparably small percentage of torched homes. To ban them for that reason, would seem to set precedence for banning other things with an equal or greater chance of igniting a house. A candle for example. Or electricity. Or gas/charcoal grills. I'm curious now, is grilling legal in Plano? Are candles?
Where I live, they even make clothing that's fire-retardant, pass laws to make folks' (kids at least) bedding and clothes fire retardant, and make laws to make human dwellings pass fire codes.
They also make it illegal to purchase, sell, or ignite "flying" fireworks, unless you have a special permit (which they give you when you ask for it, pay the several dollar fee, and fill out the form).