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Title: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 03, 2010, 08:12:38 PM
Well I was just reading up on some stuff and found out that XCOM will be back as a game released by 2K for the PC and the Xbox360. It will be a shooter this time around with the research and other stuff still in it from what I have read but there isn't a whole lot of information out right now.

Here is a trailer and a preview.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/brand-new-trailer-for-xcom

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xcom-e3-2010-preview
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: thundabooge on July 03, 2010, 09:04:23 PM
WOOOTTT!!!   XCOM is my fave game of all time!!  :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: allaire on July 03, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Ugh thought that game was supposed to be about aliens.  What's worse is they are making it a FPS instead of a turn based strategy.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 03, 2010, 09:31:57 PM
Yep I agree but it is still about aliens and apparently it is based in the early part of the XCOM beginnings.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: BoilerDown on July 04, 2010, 01:35:51 AM
I loved the old game, played it so many times... I deliberately didn't win the game most times I replayed it so that I could make it last longer.  Hopefully this game can even partially live up to the old standard.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Soulyss on July 04, 2010, 01:42:13 AM
I have to say I'm intrigued.  I cringed a little when I heard they were remaking it as a FPS and never paid much attention to any further details.  But after reading the article I'm definitely intrigued, I'm going to have to try and keep tabs on this one.

Thanks for the post Reschke.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Tac on July 04, 2010, 02:17:03 AM
just seeing the preview makes my skin crawl.

ruin for the xcom brand.


electric zap guns? sims-like graphics? kiddie game style 'grab the evidence' ?

sigh.


Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 05, 2010, 07:46:09 AM
If you are looking for an XCOM fix that works in DosBox on Vista or Win7 enviroments Steam is selling all the XCOM games in a bundle for like $12 bucks or something ridiculous.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Tac on July 05, 2010, 02:47:13 PM
but only the first xcom game is worth playing. the rest were horrid.

if its  xcom1 altered to work in today's fast systems then it alone is worth the 12 bucks.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: bozon on July 06, 2010, 04:25:55 AM
NNNNNOOOOO!!!!!!!

After Fallout, now they did it to XCOM. This is not a sequal, it is nothing more than branding and marketing a completely unrelated game.

Next it will be "Chess II: the fall of the king". Now in first person, because turn based is so 1990. America in the 1950's is recovering from the apocalyptic invasion of the black pieces. A single white pawn takes it upon itself to save the white peo... (sorry, too racist) the other king from an inevitable faith. You will face up to 8 pawns of the black realm, knights, religious freaks with OCD that will only step on a certain color tiles and mobile fortifications. You may advance from pawn to a queen (yuck) and acquire new weapons and abilities such as the deadly two-forward-one-right knight secret move.

Oh come on! enough of this!  :furious
In the mean time, the last thing worth playing in the old style is UFO alien invasion. Open source and runs well on linux:
http://ufoai.ninex.info/wiki/index.php/News
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 06, 2010, 09:08:50 AM
NNNNNOOOOO!!!!!!!
In the mean time, the last thing worth playing in the old style is UFO alien invasion. Open source and runs well on linux:
http://ufoai.ninex.info/wiki/index.php/News

Those are some sweet looking rides that the good guys show up in. Might have to check this one out and see if I can get used to it. I was up until 4am this morning playing XCOM in dosbox...talk about getting your butt handed to you over and over again.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: allaire on July 06, 2010, 09:45:35 AM
Yes the aliens seem to have freaking laser sights on their weapons.  Just remember though that you have a limitless "supply" of soldiers. :devil
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 06, 2010, 02:02:08 PM
DAMN Bozon give a guy a little warning...I installed that version this morning and have gotten my butt handed to me MANY times in the first few hours. I lost a drop ship full of veteran troopers on the way to a terror mission when they got bounced by an alien ship of some type that smoked my Saracen and Stiletto that were flying escort...something I always did back in UFO and TFTD just as a precaution. Lets just say that then when they invaded my base about 24 hours later that I barely walked away from that one and then 72 hours later I lost the only three troops I had left and then 24 hours after that I lost my main base and all the research to an attack which wiped me out.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: AKH on July 06, 2010, 02:33:37 PM
Aliens was closer to Alien than this is to the original.  :cry
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: bozon on July 06, 2010, 04:02:52 PM
DAMN Bozon give a guy a little warning...
HEHE, my first go was a disaster as well. I lost the second to failing to protect the civilians. Slowly improving...
Damn addictive game.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: allaire on July 06, 2010, 04:22:10 PM
Might I suggest http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page (http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Main_Page) has some good helpful hints on there.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 06, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
Yeah that only works for the old original XCOM allaire. Which I think I can do a pretty good job in without walkthroughs and cheats. However it is still a ball buster. I have played that almost all day today...thank goodness I work from home. Tomorrow I can't pull this crap though I have been doing this while on the phone with customers and it was a nightmare...loong night tonight getting caught up on putting orders in.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: allaire on July 06, 2010, 07:10:03 PM
So how does the games on steam differ from the original?  That link covers 3 of the games Ufo: Enemy Unknown, Terror From the Deep, and Apocalypse.  It will let you know about know bugs like the paying for dirt bug and gives general knowledge about the known exploits.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 07, 2010, 04:15:54 PM
The ones on Steam are the original. The one that Bozon linked up is only like the original in that you gotta research and hunt them down just like the original but while it is good there is just something lacking from it that I can't quite put my finger on. I have been playing the original in dosbox for a long time now and I lost my disks for UFO and TFTD so I just spent the cash and bought them on Steam.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: druski85 on July 07, 2010, 04:44:18 PM
Yea I've got the steam original that I picked up for 5 bucks, but I think I may need to invest in one of the programs that slows down your clock a bit to get it to play well.  Everything moves much, MUCH too quickly. 
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: 321BAR on July 07, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
Those are some sweet looking rides that the good guys show up in. Might have to check this one out and see if I can get used to it. I was up until 4am this morning playing XCOM in dosbox...talk about getting your butt handed to you over and over again.
i'm addicted to the game but i can never win the whole game in anything over the 2nd difficulty... i have it in windows mode and it boots me every 30 minutes if i load the game back up too many times after dieing.


P.S.
NNNNNOOOOO!!!!!!!

After Fallout, now they did it to XCOM. This is not a sequal, it is nothing more than branding and marketing a completely unrelated game.

Next it will be "Chess II: the fall of the king". Now in first person, because turn based is so 1990. America in the 1950's is recovering from the apocalyptic invasion of the black pieces. A single white pawn takes it upon itself to save the white peo... (sorry, too racist) the other king from an inevitable faith. You will face up to 8 pawns of the black realm, knights, religious freaks with OCD that will only step on a certain color tiles and mobile fortifications. You may advance from pawn to a queen (yuck) and acquire new weapons and abilities such as the deadly two-forward-one-right knight secret move.

Oh come on! enough of this!  :furious
In the mean time, the last thing worth playing in the old style is UFO alien invasion. Open source and runs well on linux:
http://ufoai.ninex.info/wiki/index.php/News
Fallout 3 was the best fallout :D and its expansions were near perfect. :D :D :D i can't wait for the next one this fall even IF it IS a spin-off
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: 321BAR on July 07, 2010, 04:46:38 PM
The ones on Steam are the original. The one that Bozon linked up is only like the original in that you gotta research and hunt them down just like the original but while it is good there is just something lacking from it that I can't quite put my finger on. I have been playing the original in dosbox for a long time now and I lost my disks for UFO and TFTD so I just spent the cash and bought them on Steam.
UFO had a more fast paced action than TFTD had. more ammo, more recoil shots, the aliens had all out shootouts with your squad unlike TFTD where you dont have as much cover or have the aliens working well as teams
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 07, 2010, 05:01:19 PM
Well I can win in the upper levels on UFO but I can't get past a mission in TFTD on the experienced level without loosing at least 3-8 "aquanauts" in a mission.

Hell I had one today where my first dude out the door opened it up and one of the two "Gillmen" were standing close to the door. One of them interrupted my turn and blast three guys on automatic (including the unlucky SOB who opened the hatch) and the second one popped a sonic grenade in just for good measure. The aliens have no duds btw...and boom I lost 9 more experienced "aquanauts" and that left me with one that was knocked the %^#@ out after grenade. I aborted the mission and made it home to have a alien ship following my Triton inbound and that fragger landed...it was a big SOB...and those fudgers invaded my base. Great thing about save games...you can always start over....too bad I had to completely start over from scratch because I forgot to SAVE THE GAME WHEN I GOT AHEAD!!!!!
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Tac on July 08, 2010, 01:58:31 AM
I loved to beat xcom 1 with pure human tech.


autocannon..rocket launched... rifle.. laser rifle and grenades (proximity grenades were awesome).

the only alien tech i kinda liked was the elerium launcher 'cause it was so damn good (waypoints for the bomb's flight and a massive area blast? ooooh yeah).

but.. the rest was pure meh. even the silly flying armor ... I never used that. My guys went to mars wearing the same gear I had available in the first few turns. the savings alone from not buying or researching all the alien gear and selling the elerium let me build huge bases and recruit entire armies of peeps and have my own little air force  :devil
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 08, 2010, 08:08:13 AM
I loved to beat xcom 1 with pure human tech.


autocannon..rocket launched... rifle.. laser rifle and grenades (proximity grenades were awesome).

the only alien tech i kinda liked was the elerium launcher 'cause it was so damn good (waypoints for the bomb's flight and a massive area blast? ooooh yeah).

but.. the rest was pure meh. even the silly flying armor ... I never used that. My guys went to mars wearing the same gear I had available in the first few turns. the savings alone from not buying or researching all the alien gear and selling the elerium let me build huge bases and recruit entire armies of peeps and have my own little air force  :devil

I did that a few times also Tac. It was fun to do and would really test you and the way you thought out how to attack a map. After a while though things would become predictable to a point.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: bozon on July 08, 2010, 10:16:35 AM
P.S.Fallout 3 was the best fallout :D and its expansions were near perfect. :D :D :D i can't wait for the next one this fall even IF it IS a spin-off
Fallout3 is a good game on its own, but it really is the "3" that annoys me. This is not the same kind of game like 1 & 2. Turn based vs. FPS cannot be compared. The first you can play with one hand, on your laptop - on your lap and even using the touchpad. The other you cannot. The first can be played even if you have the reflexes of an 80 year old. Battle is not decided by who shoots first  - you know who will act first, so it plays out more like a gameboard with move-counter move.

Bethesda made a good game (post-apocalyptic oblivion), using the excellent world and content already familiar to players and they tried to ride the fame of the Fallout franchise. Fine and dandy, but call the kid by its name, or make one up in this case. Fallout: Tactics is such an example of a Fallout spin-off. They didn't market it as Fallout3.
Title: Re: XCOM UFO Defense making a return in 2011
Post by: Reschke on July 09, 2010, 01:13:11 AM
Here is another one for all of us XCOM fans as well.

http://www.xenonauts.com/index.php

I just found it linked from the XCOM forums over on Steam. Sounds promising for those of us jonesing for a return to old school turn based kicking alien butt games.