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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Imowface on July 06, 2010, 11:59:36 PM
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Very very early war bomber, saw action alongside Pe-8's in a bombing raid against berlin, stopped production early in the war, then resumed in 1943, saw service in 6 "Long range" bomber squads about 360 to 370 made:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Er2-6.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/Jermolajew_Jer-2_Riss.jpg/800px-Jermolajew_Jer-2_Riss.jpg)
Crew: 4
Length: 16.42 m (53 ft 10½ in)
Wingspan: 23 m (75 ft 5½ in)
Height: 4.82 m (15 ft 10 in)
Wing area: 79 m² (850 ft²)
Empty weight: 10,455 kg (23,049 lb)
Gross weight: 18,580 kg (40,961 lb)
Powerplant: 2 × Charomskiy ACh-30B V12 diesel engines, 1,118 kW (1,500 hp) each each
Performance
Maximum speed: 420 km/h (261 mph)
Range: 5,500 km (3,418 miles)
Service ceiling: 7,200 m (23,620 ft)
Armament
1 x 12.7 mm UBT machine-gun in nose flexible mount.
1 x 12.7 mm UBT machine-gun in ventral flexible mount.
1 x 20 mm ShVAK cannon in a TUM-5 dorsal turret.
Up to 5,000 kg (11,023 lb) of bombs in the internal bomb-bay.
It may not be the best or fastest, but I have seen lots of people ask for Soviet + Japanese bombers, so why not consider everything :)
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+1 Along with the Pe-8 and Pe-2!
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Sounds cool, soviet early bomber add it with the Tu-2, Pe-2 and the IL-4 and the soviet bomber force is done
+1
:aok
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that Yer-2 is beautiful, damn soviets and they high taper ratio planes, sexy.
+1
:aok
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That is one ugly aircraft. I like it. :aok
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Weird looking. Looks like its mom was a He-111 and dad a F4U. +1 on getting this.
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kinda seems like a KI-67.
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Looks like a tumor growing out of the fuselage.
All joking aside, I like it. Would be a good addition for the Russians.
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Sounds cool, soviet early bomber add it with the Tu-2, Pe-2 and the IL-4 and the soviet bomber force is done
+1
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+1 for Yer-2 +1 for Tu2 +1 for Pe2 +1 for IL4
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looks like somthing out of the game crimson skies +1
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and on another noat, to my knowledge this would be the first dissel powered aircraft in AH :) wonder if it would sound different?
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+1 :x
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I need help with my spelling. SOS! :cry
I would say that in a sound pack you could get a different sound but I would say that for the regular sound package you would only get to hear normal engine sounds.
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Congrats on suggesting an aircraft I had never heard of nor seen images of before. That happens very rarely.
Neat looking bird too.
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karnak took words out of my mouth, I want this and the Tu-2 (just for 6 engine lulz)
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Tu-2 was actually only a 2 engine craft, much like the Yer-2, the only 4 engine bombers the USSR had in the war to my knowledge are the TB-3 and the PE-8, both of which didnt have any affect on the war
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Tu-2 was actually only a 2 engine craft, much like the Yer-2, the only 4 engine bombers the USSR had in the war to my knowledge are the TB-3 and the PE-8, both of which didnt have any affect on the war
The Pe-8 could carry a pretty heavy bomb-load 11k lbs if I remember correctly.
The TB-3 was a very early production bomber, I'm not sure if it was used extensively in it's time or even at all. I'm sure Karnak could fill in the details if he recognizes the plane. I'll do some research on the TB-3, I'm not entirely familiar with it, just a few small facts. So far these seem like pretty good ideas.
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From the front it kind of looks like an over size twin engine Stuka.
I'm all for it.
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@ fb, the TB 3's time had come and gone before the outbreak of the war, while it was used alot durring the winter war in its primary roll, bombing, after this, in the mid war years, it became more of a testing platform for a "fighter mothership" then in ww2, its roll was more of a transport then anything else, with the Pe-8 it too saw limited service, most of the problem with that was reliability, if I remember correctly, there was no more than 20 of these opperationaly at a time durring the war.
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Interesting. I researched some specs about the Yer-3 and some of the information on this site is quite a bit different from what wiki gave you. I don't know which site to believe but this one gives the Yer-3 much more performance.
http://junebarbarossa.devhub.com/blog/440433-yermolayev-yer-2/ (http://junebarbarossa.devhub.com/blog/440433-yermolayev-yer-2/)
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I honestly dont know which to belive either, but its possible that the performance is better on your source due to the different engins in the plane the give specs on, I am assuming, that, while the gas engines give a higher top speed, is it possible that the deisel engins have more tourqe? possibly giving it better accel then the gas? I deffinatly think that the Yer-2 would still be one of the best choices for russian bomber to have, due to its range (something that all other soviet planes are lacking) but i will deffinatly do more research on it, and come back with some solid numbers
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I would go with the piston engines if for nothing else than more speed.
Speed is life, as warbird pilots say.
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I hope we would have pistons in any engine that the yer 2 gets no matter what kind of fuel, it doesnt look like it could hold up as a glider lol ;)
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Reminds me of my son's reaction when I brought home a Citroen DS21:
"That thing is so weird... it's cool!"
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+1 to the Yer-2
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+1 to the Yer-2
:aok
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Tu-2 was actually only a 2 engine craft, much like the Yer-2, the only 4 engine bombers the USSR had in the war to my knowledge are the TB-3 and the PE-8, both of which didnt have any affect on the war
not true, the PE-8 was the only russian bomber that could reach Berlin, and near the end of the war, raided the city on a regular basis.
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aside from the Yer-2 yes that is correct it did have decent range, but I was only aware of one raid on berlin by Pe-8s, care to share your source?
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Two primary Soviet bombers were Il-4 (over 5000 built) and Pe-2 (over 11000 built). Compared to them, Yer-2 is barely a footnote.
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aside from the Yer-2 yes that is correct it did have decent range, but I was only aware of one raid on berlin by Pe-8s, care to share your source?
right here (although i got it reversed, it striked Berlin as well as other German industrial sites early in the war)
http://wikipedia.ketsujin.com/index.php/Petlyakov_Pe-8 (http://wikipedia.ketsujin.com/index.php/Petlyakov_Pe-8)
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Two primary Soviet bombers were Il-4 (over 5000 built) and Pe-2 with (over 11000 built). Compared to them, Yer-2 is barely a footnote.
it did, however,
1. see action in WW2
2. serve in squadron strength
the only requirements for adding an AC
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WMaker, by that logic why would we have the Ta 152 when we have 190's and 109's?
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it did, however,
1. see action in WW2
2. serve in squadron strength
the only requirements for adding an AC
Very true, however...imagine this game with less known aircraft that were produced less and saw less combat in place of those that were the pivotal work horses of WWII. Which makes a better and more popular "simulated WWII combat experience"? Btw, I haven't ever heard these requirements from anyone at HTC even though they keep repeated a lot as "the official requirements".
WMaker, by that logic why would we have the Ta 152 when we have 190's and 109's?
First of all, we had the 190s and 109s before the Ta-152. Second, Ta152 gathered a lot of votes in a thread posted by pyro back in 2000 when he asked next aircraft to add. The structure of the planeset was also totally different back then. Finally with the introduction of the perk system, Ta152 was a logical choise as one of the first perked aircraft due to its popularity. The fact that AH planset has the Ta152, doesn't make the implementation of the Yer-2 any more viable or logical.
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I do realise that but in my post, you may have missed the, it may not have been the best or fastest bomber, but with such few planes to chose from why not consider everything part, considering adding this plane, although it may not help anything, it wont hurt anything in the MA either. Even I would like to see the Il-4, or the Pe-2 added before this plane, but there isnt anything wrong with throwing ideas out there
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Btw, I haven't ever heard these requirements from anyone at HTC even though they keep repeated a lot as "the official requirements".
Does anyone have a reference for the requirements to be included in the game? I have always went along with squadron service during the war.
How about the performance information? What parameters does HTC require for their flight model? I am not asking for the proprietary details, but it has to be difficult to get good technical documentation on something like the Yer-2. I'm somewhat of an aviation geek, and I have never heard of it.
Any addition to the plane set that is not a Late War monster will end up a hangar queen. Personally, I'll take anything and everything. Bring on the Ki-27, the Dewoitine 520 and the Fokker D XXI.