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Title: M8 Won't kill Osti
Post by: WMLute on July 12, 2010, 05:41:46 AM
Apparently a M8 is unable to kill an Ostwind when firing at it's front 1/4.

Go offline, put Skuzzy in an Osti, and try to kill it with an M8.

Notice how the rounds impact and seem to ricochet behind the Osti.

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Title: Re: M8 Won't kill Osti
Post by: guncrasher on July 12, 2010, 01:33:05 PM
True but the osty mg can kill the m8 weird :D

semp
Title: Re: M8 Won't kill Osti
Post by: burtrum on July 12, 2010, 03:23:49 PM
i do believe it will not kill a whirble either
Title: Re: M8 Won't kill Osti
Post by: Kenne on July 13, 2010, 12:24:24 AM
the only thing it can to is turret it.

BTDT
Title: Re: M8 Won't kill Osti
Post by: E25280 on July 14, 2010, 11:09:54 PM
Could be that it has to do with where the ammunition is stored.  In a panzer there would be rounds in the turret, and I presume this is the reason you can kill the panzer with frontal shots to the turret.  But the hull from the front seems to be too thick for the M-8 to penetrate.  Osti's and WW's have the same hull as the IV, but perhaps there isn't enough ammo in the turret to brew up the tank?

Oddly, though, I was able to find a "sweet spot" on the M4A3(76)'s front turret and could kill it (shot trap, maybe?), but could not find a similar sweet spot on the M4A3(75)'s front turret.  Hulls on both could be penetrated in the lower rounded portion that does not afford as much slope as the upper hull.

Even more odd, the T-34/85's front turret armor seemed no problem for the M-8 to penetrate, although the T-34/76's turret seemed invulnerable.  The 85's turret front should be a small bit thicker than the 76's.  It is nearly twice as thick as the panzer's turret front, but it seemed the 85 died quicker than the panzer to front turret hits.   :headscratch:  It is also thicker than the panzer's front hull armor (90mm vs. 80mm), so unless HTC is modeling different quality armor (which they I suppose they could), one would reason that an invulnerable panzer front hull should also mean the 85's turret front should be invulnerable (or the panzer's hull made vulnerable).
Title: Re: M8 Won't kill Osti
Post by: Pyro on July 15, 2010, 02:45:12 PM
Not enough gun for the job.  Flakpanzers have the same 80mm front armor as the Panzer IV H.  There will be armor charts in the next version detailing this stuff.