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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: saggs on July 17, 2010, 04:03:25 PM
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So I stepped on my headset this week. Picked up a new one today. model is Logitech G330. It has standard jacks and also a USB adapter.
When I plug into the jacks on my front panel it mutes the desktop speakers and sound and mic work fine through the headset, just like my old one. However when I try the USB adapter, it mutes the desktop speakers, and the sound button in the system tray says it's playing on "Speakers (Logitech G330 headset) even shows the green bar bouncing up and down with music, but I get no sound.
I don't mind using the 2 3.5 jacks still, I just thought the USB would be handy having only one plug to put in and out.
Any thoughts.
System Information
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Time of this report: 7/17/2010, 14:56:25
Machine name: KIRK-PC
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100226-1909)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model: EP45-UD3P
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.3GHz
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 6142MB RAM
Page File: 1437MB used, 10845MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7600.16385 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
Sound Tab 3: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9442)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9442&SUBSYS_21C71458&REV_00
Display Memory: 3831 MB
Dedicated Memory: 1016 MB
Shared Memory: 2815 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: X233H
Monitor Id: ACR009A
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: DVI
Driver Name: atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.14.0010.0678 (English)
Driver Version: 8.632.1.2000
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/18/2009 02:15:58, 4059648 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D702-11CF-4E75-CD01A1C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9442
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Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C
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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Logitech G330 Headset)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: USB\VID_046D&PID_0A17&REV_0300&MI_00
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 7/13/2009 18:06:32, 109568 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1001
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6069 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 3/17/2010 02:49:22, 2298400 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
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HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Description: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: No
Default Voice Playback: No
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0885&SUBSYS_1458A102&REV_1001
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Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 3/17/2010 02:49:22, 2298400 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: Microphone (Logitech G330 Headset)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: USBAUDIO.sys
Driver Version: 6.01.7600.16385 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 7/13/2009 18:06:32, 109568 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
Description: Realtek Digital Input (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Capture: No
Default Voice Capture: No
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.6069 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 3/17/2010 02:49:22, 2298400 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x1
Format Flags: 0xFFFFF
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Saggs, generally speaking USB is the very bottom of the barrel for performance, especially for gaming.
At a guess I'd say that what's happening is that even when you plug the headphones in via USB, the playback device being used by Windows is still the Realtek onboard sound controller. You'd have to switch the playback device to the headset. You might not want to do that, as not only does the CPU bear the entire burden of processing all sound (probably the same as it does when using the onboard sound) - but every USB data transfer essentially halts the CPU. Needless to say, neither one enhances game play...
Anyone know if the Realtek ALC889A onboard sound that he has is any better than the USB-based "sound card" built into the Logitech G330 USB headphones?
<S>
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Yes, the onboard audio chip, as bad as they are, are better than any USB based headset in terms of CPU overhead. Remember, the USB bus is a serial bus that generates and IRQ on each byte of data. The onboard audio is going to be a parallel bus, so it can get 4 bytes for each IRQ (assuming a 32 bit data bus, on a 64bit data bus it would be 8 bytes at a time).
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Yes, the onboard audio chip, as bad as they are, are better than any USB based headset in terms of CPU overhead. Remember, the USB bus is a serial bus that generates and IRQ on each byte of data. The onboard audio is going to be a parallel bus, so it can get 4 bytes for each IRQ (assuming a 32 bit data bus, on a 64bit data bus it would be 8 bytes at a time).
That all went pretty much waaaay over my head. :headscratch:
But I DO get the general gist of it, that I'm better off continuing to use the 3.5mm jacks over USB... and so I will. Thanks
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What a shame.. for just a little bit more money you could have gotten THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Force-HPA2-Surround-Gaming-Headset/dp/B001BS4YAM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279481733&sr=8-9)
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What a shame.. for just a little bit more money you could have gotten THIS (http://www.amazon.com/Force-HPA2-Surround-Gaming-Headset/dp/B001BS4YAM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1279481733&sr=8-9)
:headscratch: A little bit more money?!?
I hardly consider 2.5 times the price a "little bit more"
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:headscratch: A little bit more money?!?
I hardly consider 2.5 times the price a "little bit more"
Best headphones I've ever owned. I use a powered USB hub and these things kick ass!