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Title: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 17, 2010, 10:39:58 PM
Now, when I bail out of my plane as soon as I get shot at, I would like to have a browning 30 cal or like an mg 42, because from what wiki told me, thats what pilots had in real life. Now, if you are still reading this, my actual wish, I have noticed in the updated planes, the pilots have been updated to sport uniforms from their country of origin, when you do bail out (Hopefully only if you have actually been shot down! ) would is be possible to get country correct pistols/side arms? such as the No.2 revolver for British/Commonwealth, TT33 for USSR, Nambu for JP (not sure of the "type" designation for that one) and Walther p38 or p108 Luger for germany, I know I am missing a couple and some of the numbers/ names could be wrong, but I think it would be one of those little things that could make the game that much better :) tell me what you think guys.
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: BowHTR on July 17, 2010, 10:46:14 PM
thats alotta eye candy
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 17, 2010, 10:49:56 PM
well I was sort of thinking about it and for this wish to work, the bailed out pilots still all have US flight suits, so I take it that the bailed out pilots appearance has nothing to do with the plane he was flying? I thought this would be a simple wish but have just realised that it may be more difficult to do then I had first imagined
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: MachFly on July 18, 2010, 12:04:17 AM
This would indeed be a good idea, and would add realism to the game. But out of the percentage of people who actually get a chance to bail out how many wait until they reach the ground to end sorti? and out of thous who actually wait until they reach the ground how many actually do something on the ground besides end sorti?
It's a good thing to have bust I don't think that's it's practical to make it.
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Guppy35 on July 18, 2010, 12:14:48 AM
I' be curious as to where you are seeing stories of pilots shot down lugging around Browning 30 cal machine guns or MG 42s?  Pistols were the general rule, with the occasional Tommy gun or modified carbine snuck in.

Gotta do better then Wikki as a source for this stuff :)
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Jayhawk on July 18, 2010, 12:21:45 AM
I' be curious as to where you are seeing stories of pilots shot down lugging around Browning 30 cal machine guns or MG 42s?  Pistols were the general rule, with the occasional Tommy gun or modified carbine snuck in.

Gotta do better then Wikki as a source for this stuff :)

I think you missed the sarcasm.

I agree with MachFly, this would be cool, but it needs to be accompanied by many other changes to that aspect of the game that probably isn't on the near future docket.
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2010, 02:49:34 AM
let me guess here, where exactly did you carry that mg42?  and all the ammo you could carry would be used up in about 3 seconds.

semp
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Larry on July 18, 2010, 03:16:21 AM
I' be curious as to where you are seeing stories of pilots shot down lugging around Browning 30 cal machine guns or MG 42s?

let me guess here, where exactly did you carry that mg42?  and all the ammo you could carry would be used up in about 3 seconds.

semp

I'v seen documentaries that show Ju88 crews had an extra machine gun, or used one of the rear guns, (which were very easy to take out of the mount) just in case they had to bail out or ditch and were behind enemy lines. I'm sure other bomber crews had other means. Even heard about lanc crews opening the bomb bay doors and shooting at enemy night fighters with sten guns. I don't know if that ever happened but sounds cool. I doubt a fighter pilot could unmount a gun from their plane without some sort of toolset.


I'm not agreeing that we should have that kind of stuff in game, but I'm sure if they had to ditch they would do everything you could to arm themselves.
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2010, 03:19:37 AM
I'v seen documentaries that show Ju88 crews had an extra machine gun, or used one of the rear guns, (which were very easy to take out of the mount) just in case they had to bail out or ditch and were behind enemy lines. I'm sure other bomber crews had other means. Even heard about lanc crews opening the bomb bay doors and shooting at enemy night fighters with sten guns. I don't know if that ever happened but sounds cool. I doubt a fighter pilot could unmount a gun from their plane without some sort of toolset.


I'm not agreeing that we should have that kind of stuff in game, but I'm sure if they had to ditch they would do everything you could to arm themselves.

 but here they're talking about bailing out with mg's too much weight for very little gain.

semp
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Rino on July 18, 2010, 11:30:19 AM
     I don't at all agree with the OP.  But the folks here stating that certain aircraft had provisions for
dismounting guns and ammo are correct as well.  Perfect example is an MG-15.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Munster_MG15_%28dark1%29.jpg/800px-Munster_MG15_%28dark1%29.jpg)

     It wasn't even that heavy or cumbersome.  It was less than 1.1 meters in length and even with the cartridge bag
and gunsite weighed about 12.4 Kg <or 27.28 lbs>
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: TOMCAT21 on July 18, 2010, 11:37:18 AM
I'd be  happy to be bail out with my chute
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 18, 2010, 12:10:28 PM
I was kidding about the Mg's (note to self no sarcasm EVER!) all this wish is about is pilots having side arms that were standard issue for the country who's plane they were flying
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: TOMCAT21 on July 18, 2010, 12:13:14 PM
my clock is still screwy..i'll get it yet..:)
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: guncrasher on July 18, 2010, 08:59:54 PM
     I don't at all agree with the OP.  But the folks here stating that certain aircraft had provisions for
dismounting guns and ammo are correct as well.  Perfect example is an MG-15.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Munster_MG15_%28dark1%29.jpg/800px-Munster_MG15_%28dark1%29.jpg)

     It wasn't even that heavy or cumbersome.  It was less than 1.1 meters in length and even with the cartridge bag
and gunsite weighed about 12.4 Kg <or 27.28 lbs>

rino u know what that little gun will do to your face the moment the chute opens?  not sure if you have seen movies of people jumping out of planes but they didnt have anything on their hands.  and in a fighter there's not much room to carry one either and if you had to bail the only thing you would grab was your butt out of there.  there wasnt any time to start looking around for a mg, you jumped with whatever was attached to you and fast.

semp
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Rino on July 18, 2010, 09:32:24 PM
     I believe I already said I didn't agree with the OP.  I also would like to point out that I never
mentioned bailing with said weapon.  I was just pointing out that some weapons could be easily
removed and used on the ground.

     Not every mission ends with a bailout ya know :)  For me, .ef works just fine and I get a shiny new
airplane  :aok
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Tupac on July 18, 2010, 10:17:57 PM
I think that they need to add movement to the pilots legs before anything like this. I dont like the levitation device that they use to move currently.
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: rapp25 on July 19, 2010, 03:24:37 PM
I want each pilot to carry 2 grenades and a M42 with 1000+ rounds. Anyone who does not also want this has never spawn camped a hanger/field with their pistol.
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: ACE on July 19, 2010, 06:21:05 PM
Now, when I bail out of my plane as soon as I get shot at, I would like to have a browning 30 cal or like an mg 42, because from what wiki told me, thats what pilots had in real life. Now, if you are still reading this, my actual wish, I have noticed in the updated planes, the pilots have been updated to sport uniforms from their country of origin, when you do bail out (Hopefully only if you have actually been shot down! ) would is be possible to get country correct pistols/side arms? such as the No.2 revolver for British/Commonwealth, TT33 for USSR, Nambu for JP (not sure of the "type" designation for that one) and Walther p38 or p108 Luger for germany, I know I am missing a couple and some of the numbers/ names could be wrong, but I think it would be one of those little things that could make the game that much better :) tell me what you think guys.
Too much CoD WAW for this kid  :aok
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Jayhawk on July 19, 2010, 06:40:53 PM
Imowface, I just want you to know, I got the sarcasm.  So many people didn't read your entire post and/or didn't read any of the replies.  I'm sorry it failed.  :lol
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 20, 2010, 09:30:44 AM
I know :( after putting "if your still reading this" I didn't expect people to actually stop reading after the first sentence lol, and @ ace, no need to be like that, not all of us young adults play xBox nowdays, I spend my free time volunteering at the Alberta aviation museum restoring an RCAF B25D
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Bino on July 20, 2010, 09:44:43 AM
Per the following image, I think this wish would open a really big can of worms...

(http://www.scubakavieng.com/uploads/Jake-Crew-boarding.jpg)
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 20, 2010, 11:07:54 AM
In that picture, he is just carrying the rear gun is he not?
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: guncrasher on July 20, 2010, 11:23:01 AM
In that picture, he is just carrying the rear gun is he not?

Think its a samurai sword he's carrying, the rear gun was a bow and arrow and it was already inside the plane.

semp
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: gyrene81 on July 20, 2010, 11:24:58 AM
Either way, he's not trying to carry it with him when he bails out. All these comments about removable weapons in aircraft being taken with the crew when they bail is total b.s. Airplane crews, especially the pilots, were not airborne infantry trying to parachute with rifles and machine guns strapped to their backs or in rucksacks attached to their legs.

Pure silliness...
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 20, 2010, 11:25:27 AM
a bow and arrow would be to effective though
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: Imowface on July 20, 2010, 11:27:40 AM
thank you gyrene, all I am asking for in this wish is to give us historically accurate side arms pertaining to the plane you bail out of, in other words, not Mg's or anything of the sort, just standard issue side arms, and sorry for double post
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: druski85 on July 20, 2010, 11:27:47 AM
My god, you guys collectively suck at reading comprehension.  :lol  Read the entire post, then reply.  This wish is not all that crazy, if indeed you don't stop after the first line.  A simple re-skinning of the sidearm perhaps wouldn't take that long, as long as you didn't worry about remodeling it for accuracy or realism.  I could be wrong here though.  
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: mbailey on July 20, 2010, 11:35:48 AM
I see it now       "999000 landed 10 victories in a CHUTE"

Dont laugh, he probably would  :rofl
Title: Re: Pilot wepons..
Post by: guncrasher on July 20, 2010, 01:08:42 PM
I see it now       "999000 landed 10 victories in a CHUTE"

Dont laugh, he probably would  :rofl

He probably has... :noid

semp